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Posted by karen_kay on March 15, 2007, at 11:44:51
In reply to Re: Al Gore » Meri-Tuuli, posted by fayeroe on March 15, 2007, at 8:07:00
i'll take a pbc for that! i saw something on cnn (see, i've been trying to stray from fox) a poll, stating 'is this the most incompetent congress in history?' i had to laugh. must watch cnn more often.
my heart sank when gwb was elected. i think i just laughed when he was reelected. feel no particular patriotism, and thought about moving to anywhere but here. waiting till after this election to see what happens. some interesting candidates. (hillary's comment though? about gay marriage? wowsa, i've been watching too much news. i need to start doing some crosswords and stay away from the news. besides, i feel like i've missed so much news now that i've beaten my remote and shown him who's boss. fox news be gone!)
about gore. loved him. (even though i'm terrified of robots :) voted for him. really honestly thought he had it in the bag. seriously surprised me he lost. still surprises me he lost. (ok, i had to erase that last line that was here.)
Posted by Meri-Tuuli on March 15, 2007, at 12:38:29
In reply to bush is an arsehole, posted by karen_kay on March 15, 2007, at 11:44:51
Well I'm happy to hear your thoughts on this one Mrs kk. When I watched the film I mentioned earlier, I was really surprised at how he's been plugging away at environmental issues all throughout his political career. That puts him very very high up in my estimates of him. Its such a shame he didn't get in. Sigh. Well the thing is, perhaps even if Gore had got in, people in the US might not be ready to change the way they live too much. You know, the US has the most gas consuming cars around - I doubt people would be willing to give up their massive cars? I mean, here in Europe are cars are tiny in comparison to US ones....
Anyway Mr Gore made a point about this - that the car makers who are producing environmentally sound cars are on the up (Toyota, Nissan, Honda etc) and the ones who are producing the gas guzzlers are down (Ford, general motors). And can you believe Ford etc sued the state of california because california wanted to bring in laws about the energy efficiency of their cars?!
Anyway.
Posted by Meri-Tuuli on March 15, 2007, at 12:41:19
In reply to Re: Al Gore » Meri-Tuuli, posted by fayeroe on March 14, 2007, at 20:21:57
Never liked Bush or never liked Gore?
Oh well.
Kind regards
Meri
Posted by karen_kay on March 15, 2007, at 13:37:29
In reply to Re: Al Gore, posted by Meri-Tuuli on March 15, 2007, at 12:41:19
i've been known to assume, but i'm assuming she meant bush. (thinking that's the only question you asked and she gave an answer. not by anything that fayeroe has posted in the past, just by you asking a question and her answer. amek sense, i have had my full dose of the wonderdrug klonopin today!)
kk (almost signed this ll :) hmmm... kinda like the sound of that ll hmmmm..... like lili or lulu what about jj....
Posted by karen_kay on March 15, 2007, at 13:45:49
In reply to ummm.... » karen_kay, posted by Meri-Tuuli on March 15, 2007, at 12:38:29
like i'm one to talk, i have an expedition parked in the garage as i type (does it help it hasn't been running since thanksgiving though?) :)
i feel we're a country of overindulgence (oh dear, thsi is why i stay away from this board.) as a whole, i mean. i thinkn this is how we are seen. not that i don't overindulge at all my dear. i love twinkies, and not just 1 or 2, but 10 or 12 :)
and i like driving big suvs too. even though i know i shouldn't. just pressing down on that gas pedal and hearing that roar, smelling that gas burning, makes me feel like a man (woah! woman).
but, something needs to be done. i feel i do what i can. i lecture the kids on the importance of using as little tp as possible. recycle. turn down the heat. turn down the central air. wash clothes only in cold water (why use hot water for laudry anyway? we are not wallowing in mud here anyway!). it's the little things that we all can do to save the planet (or not? maybe we can't be saved and may as well take advantage whiel we can, right?)
but, when it's nice, we walk to the bus stop to get the little one (but i still love driving around during the summer. best way to clear my mind)
and i've been to europe. i couldn't get over those little tiny cars. how do tall people fit inside them anyway? mr kk wouldn't be able to ride in one of those things. we'd have to cut the top out of the driveer's seat so his head could stick out!
Posted by fayeroe on March 15, 2007, at 17:43:58
In reply to Re: Al Gore, posted by Meri-Tuuli on March 15, 2007, at 12:41:19
> Never liked Bush or never liked Gore?
>
> Oh well.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Merii have always liked Gore......never liked Bush.
Posted by Declan on March 15, 2007, at 17:53:50
In reply to bush is an arsehole, posted by karen_kay on March 15, 2007, at 11:44:51
When I came out of 'An Inconvenient Truth' I thought 'and they could have had him instead'.
I particularly liked it in the film where Gore says that to leave the climate problem to future generations would be unethical in the extreme.
Maybe the problem is not Bush so much as the mindset that made him possible.
All the neocons have already blamed it on him or someone else, repositioning themselves.He's supposed to have a resting pulse rate of under 50. Lots of exercise, I guess.
Posted by fayeroe on March 15, 2007, at 18:09:23
In reply to Bush and Gore, posted by Declan on March 15, 2007, at 17:53:50
> When I came out of 'An Inconvenient Truth' I thought 'and they could have had him instead'.
>
> I particularly liked it in the film where Gore says that to leave the climate problem to future generations would be unethical in the extreme.
>
> Maybe the problem is not Bush so much as the mindset that made him possible.
> All the neocons have already blamed it on him or someone else, repositioning themselves.
>
> He's supposed to have a resting pulse rate of under 50. Lots of exercise, I guess.well, when you hop on your bike every time the going gets tough........you ride that bike a lot..........
Posted by caraher on March 15, 2007, at 20:39:07
In reply to Al Gore, posted by Meri-Tuuli on March 14, 2007, at 14:10:34
> Do people still like Bush now?
His "approval ratings" have been hovering somewhere just under 30% for quite some time.
Posted by Declan on March 15, 2007, at 20:43:32
In reply to Re: Al Gore, posted by caraher on March 15, 2007, at 20:39:07
That 30% is an interesting group to ponder about.
Posted by fayeroe on March 15, 2007, at 21:15:46
In reply to Pondering » caraher, posted by Declan on March 15, 2007, at 20:43:32
> That 30% is an interesting group to ponder about.
pondering about them terrifies me. and one of them is my sister....that even terrifies me more.
Posted by karen_kay on March 16, 2007, at 7:25:46
In reply to Bush and Gore, posted by Declan on March 15, 2007, at 17:53:50
i'd have a resting pulse of 50 too if i felt no responsibility for any happenings around me. he seems to have no idea of anythign that's going on around him. just that gaping mouth says it all. have you seen the still photos of him, with his mouth agape? you can jsut see in his eyes, he's thinking 'i wish i had a pet monkey.' i feel a 'do not jump to conclusions (although i don't feel i am. i'm pretty certain that's what he's thinking. i am a mind reader you know)
Posted by fayeroe on March 16, 2007, at 7:34:23
In reply to exercise or lack of acknowledgment? » Declan, posted by karen_kay on March 16, 2007, at 7:25:46
others know what's going on around him. he knows what's happening when the strings start jerking..........
Posted by karen_kay on March 16, 2007, at 11:17:42
In reply to Re: exercise or lack of acknowledgment? » karen_kay, posted by fayeroe on March 16, 2007, at 7:34:23
too bad those strings aren't jerking a bit faster, eh? and too bad one isn't around the mouth as well? too keep it closed. i know he has to have people writing speeches for him, but sometimes i wonder if he pays any attention to them or jsut disregards them right before airtime. or at least a string to simply keep that mouth from being agape mosttimes.
sorry, i tend mot to get involved in political debates, as i feel completely inept at discussing these things, but i've seen enough speeches to know that that man seems to have no thoughts going on in his head (except 'i wish i had a monkey' and 'i wish daddy was here to tell me what to do').
i hope people from other countries don't have that opinion of the rest of us americans. that's awfully frightening.
one more thing. i saw a bumper sticker that said 'at least clinton's lies didn't kill people' i think i want on eof those things, if only i put bumper stickers on my car. maybe i'd rather have a t-shirt.
Posted by caraher on March 16, 2007, at 13:58:45
In reply to Pondering » caraher, posted by Declan on March 15, 2007, at 20:43:32
> That 30% is an interesting group to ponder about.
A few days ago I saw a new bumper sticker on a car that probably belongs to a "30%-er." It featured a US flag with a yellow ribbon across it, flanked by the words "Faith" and "Hope" and, underneath, the single word... "Victory"
Posted by Meri-Tuuli on March 16, 2007, at 14:54:39
In reply to Re: Pondering, posted by caraher on March 16, 2007, at 13:58:45
Good grief, over what precisely?
Posted by Meri-Tuuli on March 16, 2007, at 15:06:29
In reply to Re: exercise or lack of acknowledgment? » fayeroe, posted by karen_kay on March 16, 2007, at 11:17:42
> i hope people from other countries don't have that opinion of the rest of us americans. that's awfully frightening.
I'm really sad to say this, but there's umm, alot of people here in Europe who do just that - American's get shouted at in the street here because of Bush. There's been articles about it in the press and things (here's a good one):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4881474.stm
Its abit terrible to be honest.
Oh well.
Kind regards
Meri
Posted by Meri-Tuuli on March 16, 2007, at 15:08:51
In reply to Re: exercise or lack of acknowledgment?, posted by Meri-Tuuli on March 16, 2007, at 15:06:29
I think that'll get be a PCB won't it? I didn't realise! Will people feel offended or put down by the article I posted to? Er.....its a good question.
I hope not it wasn't meant that way. Oh dear. I'm sorry if I've upset anyone that wasn't my intention. I was merely responding to Mrs kk!
Kind regards
Meri
Posted by fayeroe on March 16, 2007, at 16:04:24
In reply to Re: exercise or lack of acknowledgment? » fayeroe, posted by karen_kay on March 16, 2007, at 11:17:42
> too bad those strings aren't jerking a bit faster, eh? and too bad one isn't around the mouth as well? too keep it closed. i know he has to have people writing speeches for him, but sometimes i wonder if he pays any attention to them or jsut disregards them right before airtime. or at least a string to simply keep that mouth from being agape mosttimes.
>
> sorry, i tend mot to get involved in political debates, as i feel completely inept at discussing these things, but i've seen enough speeches to know that that man seems to have no thoughts going on in his head (except 'i wish i had a monkey' and 'i wish daddy was here to tell me what to do').
>
> i hope people from other countries don't have that opinion of the rest of us americans. that's awfully frightening.
>
> one more thing. i saw a bumper sticker that said 'at least clinton's lies didn't kill people' i think i want on eof those things, if only i put bumper stickers on my car. maybe i'd rather have a t-shirt.first good laugh i've had today.....thank you, dear woman. i am cackling!!! it just occurred to me, wonder if Laura wanted a monkey?
Posted by Declan on March 16, 2007, at 16:05:47
In reply to Re: Pondering, posted by caraher on March 16, 2007, at 13:58:45
Interesting and revealing, hey? To see the language of religion used in this way.
No victory for the people of Iraq, needless to say, but I guess that's not the point.
But I'm blessed if I know what the point is.
This is what makes some historic periods so interesting....the wilful and open eyed flight from the rational.
Posted by madeline on March 19, 2007, at 20:46:18
In reply to Al Gore, posted by Meri-Tuuli on March 14, 2007, at 14:10:34
I wish Gore would run in the next election. He would have my vote - again.
Posted by caraher on March 19, 2007, at 21:15:01
In reply to Re: Al Gore, posted by madeline on March 19, 2007, at 20:46:18
> I wish Gore would run in the next election. He would have my vote - again.
Reminds me of the now-defunct "Re-Elect Gore in 2004" stickers :)
Posted by madeline on March 20, 2007, at 6:47:57
In reply to Re: Al Gore, posted by caraher on March 19, 2007, at 21:15:01
How about
Gore 2008 - Better late than never.
I would put that on my car.
Posted by karen_kay on March 20, 2007, at 7:04:34
In reply to Re: Al Gore, posted by madeline on March 20, 2007, at 6:47:57
that's the only problem though.....
perhaps if he found himself a new wifie? i mean i do have some issues with her views. i think responsibility begins with parents, not with musicians, you know? come on, give prince a break lady! i've heard that cat can ball (plus, he's a muscial genius!)
then again, i don't really ever claim to know anything and my views are subject to change by the minute:)
does anyone know, has she laxed in her views about censorship?
Posted by madeline on March 20, 2007, at 7:33:15
In reply to Re: exercise or lack of acknowledgment?, posted by Meri-Tuuli on March 16, 2007, at 15:06:29
I think that the news piece was very interesting to read, but the comments at the end of it were the most telling.
I think it is a leap to hold all americans responsible for the actions of the president, especially since over %50 of the people that voted, did so for someone else - twice!
One thing I think the vast majority of people in America will agree on is that we want the war in Iraq over. But there is signicant disagreement here over HOW to make that happen.
Do we just LEAVE?
Do we just STAY THE COURSE?
Do we ESCALALTE our presence there?These are tough questions. For those that voted for Bush in the 2004 election, I think they trusted him to make the right decision.
Even here in the south (a bastion of the republican constiuency) are bailing on Bush according the polls.
Also, if you look at the last legislative election, I think you will see a significant shift away from the current policy, representing a cry for a change.
So I really think America is rising against the status quo.
In my opinion, people worldwide are pretty much the same. We want a better life for ourselves and our families, we want to be left alone to live that life and that, selfish as it may seem, is the primary concern. Politics for most is a secondary concern - almost a luxury.
Well, that is until it reaches a point where it can no longer take that secondary place. I think America is at that point right now.
Maddie
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