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Posted by caraher on March 5, 2007, at 19:53:02
Supporting our troops... or Halliburton cronies?
From http://www.armytimes.com/news/2007/03/Weightmansubpoena/
"The committee wants to learn more about a letter written in September by Garrison Commander Peter Garibaldi to Weightman.
The memorandum “describes how the Army’s decision to privatize support services at Walter Reed Army Medical Center was causing an exodus of ‘highly skilled and experienced personnel,’” the committee’s letter states. “According to multiple sources, the decision to privatize support services at Walter Reed led to a precipitous drop in support personnel at Walter Reed.”
The letter said Walter Reed also awarded a five-year, $120-million contract to IAP Worldwide Services, which is run by Al Neffgen, a former senior Halliburton official.
They also found that more than 300 federal employees providing facilities management services at Walter Reed had dropped to fewer than 60 by Feb. 3, 2007, the day before IAP took over facilities management. IAP replaced the remaining 60 employees with only 50 private workers."
Posted by Declan on March 6, 2007, at 15:10:25
In reply to Walter Reed, posted by caraher on March 5, 2007, at 19:53:02
Since they're keen on selling off anything that moves, why don't they privatise themselves?
Could you privatise the parliament or the congress?
Like not just the buildings, that's easy, but the elected representatives?
Posted by caraher on March 6, 2007, at 15:44:41
In reply to Privatisation, posted by Declan on March 6, 2007, at 15:10:25
> Could you privatise the parliament or the congress?
>
> Like not just the buildings, that's easy, but the elected representatives?Some argue that has happened already... given the role of money in modern political campaigns
Posted by Declan on March 6, 2007, at 18:00:27
In reply to Re: Privatisation, posted by caraher on March 6, 2007, at 15:44:41
At least we have consistency in government then.
I don't really know how I'd privatise myself....maybe I'd go to one of those cannibal websites and sell myself off.
Posted by payday on March 8, 2007, at 0:45:25
In reply to Walter Reed, posted by caraher on March 5, 2007, at 19:53:02
"Supporting our troops... or Halliburton cronies?"
infers that the Australian Prime Ministers son (an employee of Halliburton) works for undesirable people. This type of scuttlbutt is a kin to linking the US Presidents youngest brother to the Savings and Loans scandal and who could possibly believe that.
Posted by fayeroe on March 9, 2007, at 20:06:19
In reply to Re: Walter Reed, posted by payday on March 8, 2007, at 0:45:25
> "Supporting our troops... or Halliburton cronies?"
> infers that the Australian Prime Ministers son (an employee of Halliburton) works for undesirable people. This type of scuttlbutt is a kin to linking the US Presidents youngest brother to the Savings and Loans scandal and who could possibly believe that.:-) certainly not i...........
Posted by Declan on March 9, 2007, at 22:05:39
In reply to Re: Walter Reed » payday, posted by fayeroe on March 9, 2007, at 20:06:19
I paid close attention when I saw the PMs son had a 'consultancy' with Halliburton, of all companies.
Interesting, hey?
Wonder how it will look later on?
Posted by fayeroe on March 10, 2007, at 8:23:43
In reply to Re: Walter Reed, posted by Declan on March 9, 2007, at 22:05:39
> I paid close attention when I saw the PMs son had a 'consultancy' with Halliburton, of all companies.
>
> Interesting, hey?
>
> Wonder how it will look later on?
of course you remember that my nephew was killed in Iraq when the Blackhawk was shot down. his father was head of Walter Reed in the 70s and you should have seen that place. you could eat on the floors, the walls, the ceilings and EVERYONE was cared for. they were/are a true military godsend.if we only had more like them.....but, that ground to air rocket took out 12 of the best that was in Iraq that day. all officers and all specialists in their fields. i've always suspected that that helicopter was doomed from liftoff...........
Posted by fayeroe on March 10, 2007, at 8:25:35
In reply to Re: Walter Reed, posted by fayeroe on March 10, 2007, at 8:23:43
i'm still so hurt and angry that i can hardly stand to think about the 3000+.........do the math.....as devastated as we are.......3000+ more families, communities, schools, comrades, workplaces, churches all have felt that pain and will feel it forevermore. xoxox pat
Posted by caraher on March 10, 2007, at 10:28:15
In reply to Re: Walter Reed » fayeroe, posted by fayeroe on March 10, 2007, at 8:25:35
> i'm still so hurt and angry that i can hardly stand to think about the 3000+.........do the math.....as devastated as we are.......3000+ more families, communities, schools, comrades, workplaces, churches all have felt that pain and will feel it forevermore. xoxox pat
Not to mention the many times more who are crippled in body and/or mind, or the many, many times more who are iraqi...
Posted by Declan on March 10, 2007, at 13:12:40
In reply to Re: Walter Reed, posted by caraher on March 10, 2007, at 10:28:15
And the setback to the hopes of surviving Iraqis who wished for a law-based civil society along democratic lines.
All gone, and not just there. Afghanistan, certainly, Iran too.
Posted by fayeroe on March 10, 2007, at 14:26:22
In reply to Re: Walter Reed, posted by Declan on March 10, 2007, at 13:12:40
> And the setback to the hopes of surviving Iraqis who wished for a law-based civil society along democratic lines.
> All gone, and not just there. Afghanistan, certainly, Iran too.and get this, big new re-hab built down by San Antonio.....so i researched it and found out that it was totally built from PRIVATE DONATIONS...........AND THE ARMY CARRIED ON AS IF THEY DID IT..........
YUP, the Iraqis and Afghans suffer as we do..........
Posted by Declan on March 10, 2007, at 14:50:02
In reply to Re: Walter Reed » Declan, posted by fayeroe on March 10, 2007, at 14:26:22
In history books about terrible times the question of responsibilty comes up, of course. This is not intended to be making an invidious comparison, it is more the privatisation angle that I'm interested in.
[In Germany in WWII the question of responsibilty has been debated (and I guess settled, more or less). Local neccessities, and the lack of a written fuhrer order do not affray the responsibility of the leadership.]
I worry when security is privatised that accountability is lost....and I wonder if that is one of the reasons for doing it, the other of course being the money from the contracts.
One of our colourful politicians Senator Lightfoot, packed a 38 and something else when he went to Iraq.
All these cowboys, and all the decent people who end up suffering because of them and their decisions.
Posted by fayeroe on March 10, 2007, at 15:56:51
In reply to Re: Walter Reed » Declan, posted by fayeroe on March 10, 2007, at 14:26:22
well, Halliburton sure has mastered the art of privitization.........the re-hab in San Antonio is run by the military.
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