Psycho-Babble Politics Thread 690473

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A Low Point In American History

Posted by mair on September 30, 2006, at 9:53:42

That's what I feel about Congress passing the detention bill. American politicians love to talk about our moral authority but I really think that this administration acts more like a third world dictatorship. (hasn't fearmongering always been favored tool of demagogues?) And the President has so intimidated Congress that they let him get away with it. I actually heard Newt Gingrich talking on a panel broadcast on NPR about how the President has the right to ignore decisions of the Supreme Court about the constitutionality of a law or a presidential action when those decisions were out of the mainstream of American opinion. He felt this particularly with reference to 5-4 decisions, because he thought it meant that one justice (the tiebreaker) yielded more power than the president or congress. Compare that to Al Gore's pained decision to accept the decision of the Supreme Court when that 5-4 decision meant that the winner of the popular vote was the loser. So much for our system of checks and balances.

I think this is a shameful period in American history, every bit as shameful as the detention of Japanese-Americans during WW II.

Mair

 

Re: A Low Point In American History » mair

Posted by Declan on September 30, 2006, at 14:13:20

In reply to A Low Point In American History, posted by mair on September 30, 2006, at 9:53:42

Yep, Australian history too. That's amazing about Gingrich but not surprising. It's not to do with a spirit of vengefulness, is it? From where?

 

Re: A Low Point In American History » Declan

Posted by Jost on September 30, 2006, at 22:46:17

In reply to Re: A Low Point In American History » mair, posted by Declan on September 30, 2006, at 14:13:20

Let's hope its the dark before the light begins. Although the disaster, or what Jon Stewart now calls "the Futile Crescent" can go nowhere but down, I fear.

I'm hoping there's an unravelling of some of the worst of the last years, though.

Jost

 

Re: please be sensitive » mair

Posted by Dr. Bob on October 1, 2006, at 14:21:46

In reply to A Low Point In American History, posted by mair on September 30, 2006, at 9:53:42

> I really think that this administration acts more like a third world dictatorship.

It's good to see you again, and I understand that you disagree with this administration, but please be sensitive to the feelings of others (such those who support it).

But please don't take this personally, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person.

If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please first see the FAQ:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
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Follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration. They, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.

Thanks,

Bob

 

Re: please be sensitive » Dr. Bob

Posted by mair on October 2, 2006, at 12:32:17

In reply to Re: please be sensitive » mair, posted by Dr. Bob on October 1, 2006, at 14:21:46

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>" But please don't take this personally, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person."
>
I guess I've been away too long - is this the new administrative mantra? (-;

I'm sure I could have come up with more politic way of decrying this Administration's expansive view of the powers of the executive branch of government. I'll try to tone it down.

Mair

 

Re: been away too long

Posted by Dr. Bob on October 8, 2006, at 13:08:01

In reply to Re: please be sensitive » Dr. Bob, posted by mair on October 2, 2006, at 12:32:17

> > But please don't take this personally, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person.
>
> I guess I've been away too long - is this the new administrative mantra? (-;

Yes, you've been away too long. :-)

> I'll try to tone it down.

Thanks,

Bob


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