Psycho-Babble Politics Thread 689199

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Okay, hope this isnt' uncivil but....

Posted by Jost on September 25, 2006, at 20:01:34

Keith Olbermann!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jost

 

Re: Okay, hope this isnt' uncivil but.... » Jost

Posted by Declan on September 25, 2006, at 21:56:03

In reply to Okay, hope this isnt' uncivil but...., posted by Jost on September 25, 2006, at 20:01:34

Is he a liberal with a bit of oomph?

 

Re: Okay, hope this isnt' uncivil but....

Posted by Jost on September 25, 2006, at 22:23:24

In reply to Re: Okay, hope this isnt' uncivil but.... » Jost, posted by Declan on September 25, 2006, at 21:56:03

The Ooomph became a bit searing tonight.

He gave a compelling "special comment" on his show. The context was an interview with Bill Clinton on one of the more conservative networks, about which there's been a lot of media commentary here.

Not wanting to offend, I don't want to go further. If you're at all interested, I"m sure you can find it online.

Jost

 

Re: Okay, hope this isnt' uncivil but.... » Jost

Posted by Declan on September 26, 2006, at 3:38:44

In reply to Re: Okay, hope this isnt' uncivil but...., posted by Jost on September 25, 2006, at 22:23:24

There was an article in the latest LRB about the 'capitulation' (does that make it civil?) of the liberal establishment in the US, making historical comparisons.

 

Re: Okay, hope this isnt' uncivil but....

Posted by Declan on September 26, 2006, at 3:41:58

In reply to Re: Okay, hope this isnt' uncivil but.... » Jost, posted by Declan on September 26, 2006, at 3:38:44

And it mentioned David Remnick. I'd really enjoyed "Lenin's Tomb", I think it was called.

 

Re: Okay, hope this isnt' uncivil but.... » Jost

Posted by gardenergirl on September 26, 2006, at 10:31:30

In reply to Re: Okay, hope this isnt' uncivil but...., posted by Jost on September 25, 2006, at 22:23:24

Searing moving to scorching. I've really appreciated his special commentaries recently. I've found them validating, moving, inspiring, etc. Poignant.

But when he said that Pres. Clinton had "freed" us to speak (or something like that), I was a bit worried that it might have created a "monster". :) So far, so good.

And you know, I'd really like to see more of the kind of challenges and emotion Pres. Clinton displayed in the Fox interview. I wish there was a way that journalists could maintain their ethics and boundaries while more directly challenging any lies, distortions, misdirections, patronizing, etc. they encounter from interviewees. You know, just once I'd love to see one of them reply, "That's just B*llshit!" Or how about a "Please rephrase?"

The Dixie Chicks have a song that says, "I'm not ready to make nice..." I'm tired of making nice. I want to hear more about that nekkid emperor. ;)

gg

 

Re: It's called asking the second question... » gardenergirl

Posted by Jost on September 26, 2006, at 10:57:56

In reply to Re: Okay, hope this isnt' uncivil but.... » Jost, posted by gardenergirl on September 26, 2006, at 10:31:30

knowing the facts, and saying, "Yes, Sir/Ma'am, but what about.... [well-known fact to the contrary...]?"

Then if you get a run-around, going back for a third try, "Yes, Sir/Ma'am, but that doesn't address the issue of... [well-known events/facts to the contrary of what was said]..."

and doing it in a respectful, but direct, and challenging way. And if the question isn't answered, or is answered disingenuously, just not letting that dodge work.

I've heard it done on the BBC, until we started getting BBC-lite here.

gg, I may know what you mean-- another "two-fer" Presidency is something, in the vernacular of Pbabble, that I personally don't think would be in my personal interest, personally. (Oops. I also don't want to make Bob feel bad.) If only because I don't think it's gonna happen.

There's an article in this week's New Yorker by David Remnick, which I didn't like-- can't quite remember what/why-- but the New Yorker does publish Sy Hirsh, so I'm not sure he should be the one mentioned.

Jost

 

Quick reply » Jost

Posted by gardenergirl on September 26, 2006, at 18:58:35

In reply to Re: It's called asking the second question... » gardenergirl, posted by Jost on September 26, 2006, at 10:57:56

Asking the second, third, fourth, etc. I can't imagine what it must be like in the white house briefing room. I doubt I'd be able to sit still and quiet. :)

And about the unleasing a monster thing...I wasn't thinking of a two-fer. (I try not to think about that.) :O

Actually, I was concerned that it might unleash an over-the-top Keith. Just far enough, Keith dear. Just far enough. No getting fired again. Your show's too good.

gg

 

Re: Quick reply » gardenergirl

Posted by Jost on September 26, 2006, at 20:35:29

In reply to Quick reply » Jost, posted by gardenergirl on September 26, 2006, at 18:58:35

I've been wondering if he'll get fired, myself.

and if he's gone a bridge too far.

I mean that did comment go ooonnnn. I loved it, but even I kind of thought, okay, it's time to wrap this up.

The way he looked from one camera to the other, was kind of amazing. And the scenes from 1984..... Yikes.


Jost


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