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Bush has question during visit to India

Posted by Bobby on March 6, 2006, at 13:49:12

"Where are all ya'll's teepees?"
Disclaimer--in a civil way.

 

Re: please be civil (nm) » Bobby

Posted by Dr. Bob on March 6, 2006, at 16:25:45

In reply to Bush has question during visit to India, posted by Bobby on March 6, 2006, at 13:49:12

 

Re: please be civil » Dr. Bob

Posted by Bobby on March 6, 2006, at 17:03:10

In reply to Re: please be civil (nm) » Bobby, posted by Dr. Bob on March 6, 2006, at 16:25:45

Sorry again Dr. Bob----maybe I should wait for the next administration. Just having a little fun.

 

:o) (nm) » Bobby

Posted by wildcard11 on March 6, 2006, at 18:33:51

In reply to Re: please be civil » Dr. Bob, posted by Bobby on March 6, 2006, at 17:03:10

 

Re: please be civil

Posted by teejay on March 6, 2006, at 19:55:01

In reply to Re: please be civil » Dr. Bob, posted by Bobby on March 6, 2006, at 17:03:10

Didnt you read the rules?

NO fun is allowed on these boards, only posters with their sense of humour chip removed may post.

TJ (who is becoming increasingly frustrated at some of the petty moderating decisions, not to mention the poor manners often shown when such a desision is questioned (such as declans banning))

 

Re: Aw, come on! » Dr. Bob

Posted by AuntieMel on March 7, 2006, at 11:19:12

In reply to Re: please be civil (nm) » Bobby, posted by Dr. Bob on March 6, 2006, at 16:25:45

dumb jokes - I would think they would be ok.

Even Bush makes jokes about being just a "C" student.

 

Re: please be civil

Posted by zeugma on March 7, 2006, at 18:55:48

In reply to Re: please be civil, posted by teejay on March 6, 2006, at 19:55:01

NO fun is allowed on these boards, only posters with their sense of humour chip removed may post.>>

the U.S. went into Iraq in 2003 with a set of cards printed up, with an Iraqi's face on each card, and it was the Joker they got first (Saddam Hussein's press secretary).

Those with a taste for allegory can interpret this as they will.

I am not joking, by the way.

-z

 

personality ID cards » zeugma

Posted by 10derHeart on March 7, 2006, at 22:00:56

In reply to Re: please be civil, posted by zeugma on March 7, 2006, at 18:55:48

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most-wanted_Iraqi_playing_cards

I have a deck around somewhere. No joker with the Information Minister (aka [by the media anyway back in 2003] as 'Baghdad Bob')though. Think that was separate, or included in copycat decks after the first one was produced, or something...

 

the oral tradition » 10derHeart

Posted by zeugma on March 8, 2006, at 8:11:34

In reply to personality ID cards » zeugma, posted by 10derHeart on March 7, 2006, at 22:00:56

is fortunately written down these days, and the ephemera of history are preserved in electronic caches hopefully more durable than the relics of ancient Mesopotamia that were lost when the Iraqi museums were looted.

Don't throw out your deck because you have a spurious copy.

but my memory was not deceiving me, either. I was not joking, but I was using a joke to refer seriously to an individual that i picked out as being that wildest of cards (no deck is complete without one!), in particular this:

A Reporter Delivers a Good One-Liner at
the CENTCOM Briefing

No new Letterman shows the last couple of nights, so no Top Ten list to end on, but MRC analyst Ken Shepherd caught a humorous one-liner from Sky News correspondent Geoff Meade at Friday's CENTCOM briefing in Doha.

Meade, referring to the packs of playing cards with photos of wanted Iraqi leaders which the coalition is distributing, quipped: “On your deck of 55 most wanted, does that include the former Information Minister? -- because every pack needs a joker.”

Brigadier General Vincent Brooks liked that: “Well said, Geoff. Well said. Well, there are jokers in this deck, there’s no doubt about that.”

At Monday's briefing Meade had asked: “If Iraq was so unable to defend itself, was it really the threat to the world on which this whole war was predicated?”

I prefer his jokes.

-- Brent Baker

source disclosure:CyberAlerts. Tracking Liberal Media Bias Since 1996. Saturday, April 12, 2003 (Vol. Eight;No.74)

[note: this magazine is available online, I do not post links anymore except to Amazon titles as a general policy, because I must make it perfectly clear that I am not responsible for, or necessarily agree with, any of the content contained elsewhere on sites I link to, no matter what their political orientation, and I select that which I cite here because I can answer for whatever is contained in what I cite, and others can question whether my interpretation is accurate. I gather that the site I drew the above is a conservative media outlet, merely going by its subheading and by the comment at the article's end that "I prefer his jokes" (i.e. Mr. Meyer got a laugh out of Mr. Meade's jesting question to Brig. Gen. Brooks, which clearly had the former Iraqi Information Minister as referent, to which Brig.Gen. replied in kind. Perhaps I go into tedious detail. My aim is "education" and that cannot be done by cooking the history books)].

so in summary the deck did not contain the former Iraqi Information Minister as Joker, and yet the U.S. military spokesman at the time did laugh at Mr. Meade's use of "Joker" to refer to 'Baghdad Bob,' and did acknowledge that Mr.Meade's comment was "well said," which I take to be an endorsement of the use of the term to refer to said Information Minister. I leave it to you, 838, James K, Declan (if indeed he is unblocked- perhaps I saw a mirage a few nights ago) or any other reader to decide whether my comment above did in fact succeed in the using the term 'Joker' to indicate the former Information Minister. My usage of the term was parasitic on that of Brig. Gen. Brooks' (the fact that his own use was parasitic on Mr. Meade's is irrelevant), and I took that to be a serious enough warrant (I take warrants MOST seriously) for saying that I was not joking when I said that 'the Joker was captured first.' I was not; I was quite seriously using the official U.S. military spokesman's usage of the term "Joker" to pick out the former Iraqi Information Minister,which reached my ears as it undoubtedly did yours (for we are both avidly interested in these matters); one which has a certain historical piquancy.

if any of this blizzard of justification is anything you wish to contest or demand I clarify, I will of course take your replies seriously. Maybe too seriously, but I am all for "education." And I will not be cryptic any longer.

"Live free or die."

-z

 

Re: the oral tradition » zeugma

Posted by AuntieMel on March 8, 2006, at 10:20:24

In reply to the oral tradition » 10derHeart, posted by zeugma on March 8, 2006, at 8:11:34

I have a deck of the cards - and the Baghdad Bob video. He cracked me up.

A fun site

http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/

 

Re: the oral tradition » AuntieMel

Posted by 10derHeart on March 8, 2006, at 12:05:29

In reply to Re: the oral tradition » zeugma, posted by AuntieMel on March 8, 2006, at 10:20:24

Mel,

I am still fond of that site myself.

I was going to include the URL in my post, but decided I was afraid it might be deemed uncivil. I think there are many sarcastic (therefore disparaging?) things said about this Iraqi official on that site. I was assuming, in an abundance of caution, that truth (i.e., that the incorrect 'facts' MSS announced during the invasion were actually *not* facts)is no defense, and still doesn't allow us to link to a site like that.

Posters who wish to joke or be sarcastic about the U. S. President's statements, when they deeply believe said statements are false, are not permitted to do that. So I was unsure...

I'm trying very hard to figure out how to be fair and civil on this board, which is often a huge challenge.

Hope it's okay. (If not, I imagine you can weather a PBS...being the tough Texan you are ;-) )

Heck, I won't be surprised if I get one myself if I keep trying to have any dialog here. And I won't see it coming... :-( I dunno. It's difficult.

 

Re: the oral tradition » 10derHeart

Posted by AuntieMel on March 8, 2006, at 12:13:00

In reply to Re: the oral tradition » AuntieMel, posted by 10derHeart on March 8, 2006, at 12:05:29

I can be thick skinned that's for sure.

But - hey - that site only quotes him. It's up to the reader to decide if the quotes are rediculous.

I've posted some Bush quotes - It's up to the reader to decide if they make sense.

I hope it's ok, too, and I haven't just been lucky.

 

Re: the oral tradition » zeugma

Posted by 10derHeart on March 8, 2006, at 12:15:50

In reply to the oral tradition » 10derHeart, posted by zeugma on March 8, 2006, at 8:11:34

>>if any of this blizzard of justification is anything you wish to contest or demand I clarify<<

I was never looking for that. Just brought back memories of the playing cards and the events around spring 2003. So since I'm far too lazy to look through boxes in closets to locate them, I went on the website I bought them from, to see if the Minister was represented, as I didn't remember that.

No demanding, no contesting. I was chatting. Sorry if I wasn't serious enough :-)

 

Re: the oral tradition » 10derHeart

Posted by zeugma on March 8, 2006, at 12:33:12

In reply to Re: the oral tradition » zeugma, posted by 10derHeart on March 8, 2006, at 12:15:50

> >>if any of this blizzard of justification is anything you wish to contest or demand I clarify<<
>
> I was never looking for that. Just brought back memories of the playing cards and the events around spring 2003. So since I'm far too lazy to look through boxes in closets to locate them, I went on the website I bought them from, to see if the Minister was represented, as I didn't remember that.
>
> No demanding, no contesting. I was chatting. Sorry if I wasn't serious enough :-)

No, I didn't have a problem with being serious or not- it seems though that it was an issue- not one I complained about :-)

It's good to think about something amusing (I did go to that site, and it brought back some of my better memories from that time :-)).

Sometimes, there has to be chat and memories of Baghdad Bob. As worried as I am about the state of things and my own level of excitability, I was worried about you too.

-z


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