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Posted by Dinah on July 16, 2002, at 7:38:52
In reply to The wolves in sheep's clothing » shar, posted by Lou Pilder on July 16, 2002, at 7:32:20
But I am enjoying this very positive thread Shar started on favorite verses.
Perhaps we could leave this one the way it is to gain momentum, and put discussion of any particular verses on a separate thread.
I myself had thoughts about the judge not verse, but I'm planning to start a new thread to discuss it.
Wouldn't it be great to keep this one rolling? Then it would be able to generate a lot of discussion on other threads?
Thanks,
Dinah
Posted by Dinah on July 16, 2002, at 7:43:52
In reply to Lou, I would love to hear it..., posted by Dinah on July 16, 2002, at 7:38:52
I certainly didn't mean that in any way to tell you where to post or anything. This just seemed like it could be one of those quickly rolling threads that could really perk up the Faith board, and I thought it would be terrific to keep up the momentum.
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 16, 2002, at 7:44:22
In reply to The wolves in sheep's clothing » shar, posted by Lou Pilder on July 16, 2002, at 7:32:20
Shar,
when I was in the City of Peace, I asked about how we could know the true shepherds from the wolves in sheep's clothing. The Rider turned to us and said, " What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after th one which is lost until he finds it? And when he has found it,he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. And when he comes home he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to thm, "Rejoice with me, for I hae found my sheep which was lost" I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one lost sheep that is found than over ninety-nine sheep that never went astray."
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 16, 2002, at 8:07:04
In reply to Re: Lou, one more thing..., posted by Dinah on July 16, 2002, at 7:43:52
Dinah,
Are you implying that if I tell what I experianced that my post would stop the momentum?
Lou
Posted by Dinah on July 16, 2002, at 8:12:21
In reply to Re: Lou, one more thing... » Dinah, posted by Lou Pilder on July 16, 2002, at 8:07:04
Of course not. And I apologize profusely if I offended. I suppose I just saw this thread as a swiftly flowing river of favorite quotes, giving rise to tributary threads of discussion. But it's not my thread anyway, and I apologize for my suggestion. And I do see that if you started a new thread now, you would break up the momentum of your own discussion.
Many humble apologies to both Shar and Lou.
Posted by Dinah on July 16, 2002, at 8:14:47
In reply to No No Lou..., posted by Dinah on July 16, 2002, at 8:12:21
Posted by Dinah on July 16, 2002, at 8:21:55
In reply to How about I start a new thread (nm), posted by Dinah on July 16, 2002, at 8:14:47
I fear I have distressed you. And that was not my intention.
Will you forgive me?
Posted by Dinah on July 16, 2002, at 9:20:24
In reply to No No Lou..., posted by Dinah on July 16, 2002, at 8:12:21
I apologize for being so presumptuous with your thread. It's just that it filled me with such enthusiasm at such positive possibilities.
A remorseful,
Dinah
Posted by shar on July 16, 2002, at 11:23:20
In reply to Re: One of my favorite passages....thanks, Shar, posted by Phil on July 16, 2002, at 5:56:33
That is beautiful, and I can see why it means a lot to you. Of course, it being part of PHILippians doesn't hurt, I guess...8-)
Did I tell you my Bible has the Book of SHARippians? I'll quote some from it later.
:)
Shar
Posted by shar on July 16, 2002, at 11:34:25
In reply to The wolves in sheep's clothing » shar, posted by Lou Pilder on July 16, 2002, at 7:32:20
I like this one a lot too, it contains a good general warning about "face value." Being pretty loose in interpreting it, to me it means anyone who presents an untrue face to the world (not limited to a 'shepherd'). Like one who manipulates situations, or plays dirty, or has a hidden agenda, or feeds on the powerless ones among us, or continues to do something that is obviously hurtful even while saying they only want to help....gee, there are thousands of examples, large and small.
To me, those are all forms of 'evil' to one degree or another. And I think it's cool that god took the time to warn us about it and warns us to "watch" what people do more than listen to their words.
And, of course, when applied to myself, to pay attention to what I DO and how it aligns with what I SAY.
S
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 16, 2002, at 11:43:41
In reply to Re: To no one in particular - part 6, posted by shar on July 16, 2002, at 0:16:36
> And, lest we forget, the golden rule. At least, I think this is the origin of one of them. There are golden rules out the wazoo, actually. Just about every religion has some expression of treating others the way you want to be treated.
FWIW, the FAQ links to a page with a number of them:
http://www.silcom.com/~origin/sbcr/sbcr233
including the one you posted.
Bob
Posted by shar on July 16, 2002, at 11:46:44
In reply to Is it favorite New Testament quotes?, posted by Dinah on July 16, 2002, at 3:20:16
I will let you in on a secret about the online search for Bible quotes. I had the one in mind about 'by your fruits you'll be known' and of course did not know what book/chapter/verse it was in, so...... went to...
www.blueletterbible.org where they have a search engine where you can enter verses, or keywords, and that's what I used. So, I had Matthew 7 open in a window and could refer to it while I wrote the posts.
It wasn't so much a striving for exact quotes and references as it was not wanting to take 3 verses from 2 different books, jumble them up into one verse, post it here and say "that's my favorite." I thought it would be good if it at least had some semblance to what was actually in the Bible.
8-D
(what I'm trying to say is don't worry about exactness, or if you do, the online help might be worth checking out.)
Shar
Posted by shar on July 16, 2002, at 11:51:44
In reply to Re: the golden rule, posted by Dr. Bob on July 16, 2002, at 11:43:41
Thank you, Dr. B.
THE ONENESS OF THE HUMAN FAMILY
Compiled by the Temple of Understanding, a global interfaith organization
Baha'i: "Blessed is he who preferreth his brother before
himself." -- Baha'u'llah, Tablets of Baha'u'llah, 71Buddhism: "Hurt not others in ways that you yourself would find
hurtful." -- Udana-Varga, 5:18Christianity: "All things whatsoever ye would that men should do
to you, do ye even so to them." -- Jesus, in Matthew 7:12Confucianism: "Do not unto others what you would not have them do
unto you." -- Analects 15:23Hinduism: "This is the sum of duty: do naught unto others which
would cause you pain if done to you." -- Mahabharata 5:1517Islam: "No one of you is a believer until he desires for his
brother that which he desires for himself." -- SunnahJainism: "In happiness and suffering, in joy and grief, we should
regard all creatures as we regard our own self."
-- Lord Mahavira, 24th TirthankaraJudaism: "What is hateful to you, do not to your fellow man. That
is the law: all the rest is commentary." -- Talmud, Shabbat 31aNative American: "Respect for all life is the foundation."
-- The Great Law of PeaceSikhism: "Don't create enmity with anyone as God is within
everyone." -- Guru Arjan Devji 259, Guru Granth SahibZoroastrianism: "That nature only is good when it shall not do
unto another whatever is not good for its own self."
-- Dadistan-i-Dinik, 94:5Compiled by the Temple of Understanding, a global interfaith organization
http://www.silcom.com/~origin/sbcr/sbcr233
Posted by Dinah on July 16, 2002, at 12:52:09
In reply to Re: Is it favorite New Testament quotes? » Dinah, posted by shar on July 16, 2002, at 11:46:44
Thanks Shar, I bookmarked it. It should make it a lot easier to figure out where to look.
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 16, 2002, at 16:13:02
In reply to The wolves in sheep's clothing- part 2, posted by Lou Pilder on July 16, 2002, at 7:44:22
Shar,
After we were told by the Rider that a true shepherd will seek any of his flock that have gone astray, one asked the Rider what another characteristic of a true shepherd would be. The Rider turned to us and said. "Let no man deceive you. There is a true shepherd. And that true shepherd gives his life for his sheep." Then He turned again and said to us, "I am the good shepherd; and I know my sheep and I lay down my life for the sheep. And I will seek all those that are lost and no one can take them away from me."
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 16, 2002, at 16:15:38
In reply to Lou, now my heart is heavy...., posted by Dinah on July 16, 2002, at 8:21:55
Dinah,
Yes!. You have only (7X70)-1 more times to ask for my forgiveness.
Lou
Posted by Dinah on July 16, 2002, at 16:18:35
In reply to Re: Lou, now my heart is heavy.... » Dinah, posted by Lou Pilder on July 16, 2002, at 16:15:38
Thanks Lou, I'll try not to use them all up. :)
Posted by Dinah on July 16, 2002, at 20:26:56
In reply to Re: internet bible research » shar, posted by Dinah on July 16, 2002, at 12:52:09
And from one of my favorite chapters, James. I could probably call the entire book of James my favorite verse.
Just so the tongue is an insignificant organ, but it boasts great things. Look how small a spark sets so mighty a forest ablaze! The very rule of misrule the tongue establishes among our organs: it is the soiler of the whole body and the inflamer of the process of generation, being inflamed itself by Gehenna. Every species of beast and bird, reptile and marine creature, has been tamed by the human species. But the tongue no one can tame: it is an ungovernable evil, saturated with deadly poison. With it we bless the Lord our Father, and equally with it we curse men made in the image of God. Out of the same mouth proceed blessing and cursing. This should not be, my brothers. Does a fountain gush fresh and brackish water from the same vent? Can a fig tree, my brothers, yield olives, or a vine figs? No more can salt water yield fresh. Who among you claims wisdom and sagacity? Let him display his accomplishments by worthy conduct, with the moderation of wisdom.
Posted by shar on July 16, 2002, at 23:52:31
In reply to Re: One of the verses of great wisdom, posted by Dinah on July 16, 2002, at 20:26:56
That is very powerful! I am going to have to look at the book of James again!
Shar
Posted by tabitha on July 17, 2002, at 5:25:26
In reply to Re: Lou, now my heart is heavy.... » Dinah, posted by Lou Pilder on July 16, 2002, at 16:15:38
> Dinah,
> Yes!. You have only (7X70)-1 more times to ask for my forgiveness.
> LouLou makes a joke, ho ho. This makes me happy for some reason. :)
Tabitha
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 17, 2002, at 8:45:49
In reply to Re: Lou, now my heart is heavy.... » Lou Pilder, posted by tabitha on July 17, 2002, at 5:25:26
Tabitha,
In 1973 a was in an auto accident and had to have some surgery. The Dr. told me to take a shower before the surgery next morning.
While I was on the operating table, the Doctor said, "Did you take a shower this morning?"
I said, "Why, is there one missing?"
hohohehe
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 17, 2002, at 12:31:50
In reply to Lou's response to Tabitha's post » tabitha, posted by Lou Pilder on July 17, 2002, at 8:45:49
Tabitha,
You see, the car that I was in dropped off an overpass and fell 30 feet. I was having some minor surgery and while I was on the operating table, after the Dr. asked me if I took a shower this morning, the nurse then said to me," Are you allergic to anything?"
I said,"gravity"
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 17, 2002, at 12:49:06
In reply to Lou's response to Tabitha's post-part 2, posted by Lou Pilder on July 17, 2002, at 12:31:50
Tabitha,
Then they put an I V in my arm to start the anesthesia. I noticed that there was a fly in the transparrent bag that had the solution in it. I said to the anesthesist, "What is that fly doing in my I V bag?" The anesthesist said to me, "Why it looks like he's doing the back-stroke."
Tabitha,are you any happier?
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 17, 2002, at 12:56:57
In reply to Re: Lou's response to Tabitha's post-part 3, posted by Lou Pilder on July 17, 2002, at 12:49:06
Tabitha,
Then one of the surgeons looked at my chart and whispered to the nurses, " The chart says that this man is crazy." I heard him and said,"I want a second opinion." the doctor said to me, "OK, your ugly, too."
Tabitha, enough?
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 17, 2002, at 13:50:03
In reply to Re: Lou's response to Tabitha's post-part 4, posted by Lou Pilder on July 17, 2002, at 12:56:57
Tabitha,
After the operation i woke up in a room and there was a lady adsking me what I wanted for dinner. I asked her if they served crabs. she said, "We serve anybody".
Tabatha? enough?
Lou
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