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Posted by alexandra_k on March 29, 2021, at 6:58:57
Posted by alexandra_k on March 30, 2021, at 18:34:28
In reply to mmmmmmmmmmmmm australia, posted by alexandra_k on March 29, 2021, at 6:58:57
or the people who tell you what you should think / do / say?
i'm trying to follow along your rationale as to why you get to jump the vaccine cue.
something about how you think everybody wants to be like you and so if you have the vaccine then everybody wants to have the vaccine and since you want everybody to have the vaccine you get to have the vaccine first.
i don't really follow along...
my understanding of the situation is that presently. right now. there are people who would take the vaccine immediately if it was available to them. i think that GPs around the country turned up to sites wanting vaccinations and they were turned away again because there wasn't enough.
so... people who want the vaccine can't have it...
but you jump the cue.
apparently because you want more and more and more and likely all the people to want the vaccine.
that they can't have.
because there isn't enough.
how many people would have the vaccine immediately if it was available to them?
do we have a national sign up?
no.
we are too busy spending our time figuring how to coerce people who don't want a vaccination to wanting one (which they can't actually have because there isn't enough).
business.
in new zealand.
good job think tank. i'm sure y'all saw it coming.
Posted by alexandra_k on April 8, 2021, at 4:21:43
In reply to what are you thinking chris hipkins?, posted by alexandra_k on March 30, 2021, at 18:34:28
Firstly, your name is unfortunate. There is someone called Ayesha in The Sims 3. And she is evil. It's a character trait.
It is unfortunate.
Secondly, why are you jabbing at people with a pen like you want to stab their eyes out when they criticise the (your?) vaccine rollout?
Thirdly, ...
I'm trying to get into your head.
So...
One modelling situation was that n number of vaccines would arrive in this date and y number would be administered on that date and that other date...
And the reality was that n+more arrived in this date and less than y was administered on that date and that other date...
And people are asking: Why? Why are we behind on the vaccine rollout? What's the hold up?
And she says (stabbing her pointy pen and becoming hysterical) something along the lines of 'do you want them to go back to their day-jobs with the DHBS? That vaccination rollout was unsustainable!'
So...
The idea is...
The Government... Or maybe St Johns. Or maybe the Universities. Or maybe the District Health Boards. People. All over the show... COllected up a bunch of monies in the name of training people to administer vaccinations.
And then how many were hired / employed to administer vaccinations?
Ayesha seems to want her small group of vaccinators to have full time employment vaccinating people. So that means she feels incentivised to sloooooooooooooooow thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiings doooooooooooooooooooown. To hoard the vaccines and drip feed them to the people so that they can do (I don't know how many) per day.
And if that means some people don't get their flu jabs until the very end of the season pffffffffft. It's a small price to pay for people having full time employment as vaccinators who don't have to do anything else for the DHBs (who don't have other jobs).
That seems to be the plan??
And we want only one of the vaccines. So it's not confused. I mean.... Can you imagine if people were expected to administer more than one kind of vaccine... That would be like expecting the children of the inbreds to do surgery on teh correct limb... That is to say... NOt gonnna happen.
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People called out the members of the Auckland DHB for having vaccination before their age demographic / cohort. Jumping the cue.
It came down to... Why... That's the reason why we are on the Board!! Haha members of the board get to skip the cue!!
Yes. That's right. The leaders don't know what equity means. Or fairness.
Now the Maori and Pacific Leaders will be jumping on the bandwagon of what leadership is supposed to look like (according to the elite white).
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You just sort of wait for them to die, really, don't you.
Posted by alexandra_k on April 8, 2021, at 4:34:26
In reply to Re: what are you thinking ayesha?, posted by alexandra_k on April 8, 2021, at 4:21:43
I don't quite know what to make of her, yet.
I suppose she is Dunedin's latest offering to the world of politics.
First we had David whatever his name is. In the name of... Philosophy and Ethics. Apparently. Preventing the development of Medicine in New Zealand in the name of (terrible) Philosophy and Ethics...
Then there was Claire... Being all warm and fuzzy for South Dunedin. That's the trailor park ghetto sort of place in Dunedin. People were making a lot of money there from the fact that there were predictable floods nearly every winter. The insurance company pay-outs.
There was a sort of a... Ghetto potential. There is this potential. In Dunedin. The potential for Arts and Culture to really develop and thrive and flourish. But they keep their people so kicked back and down...
So deprived. To prevent expressions of creativity, even. There's a kicking down of the spirit.
https://www.shc.org.nz/enrol-with-us
You can't quite tell from their website. There's a real... Holding out of hands. 'Please sir can I have some more?' Bondage...
The elite white have done a number on the majority of white people, too...
They think 'diversity' means picking a few chosen elite children of 'other' communities to go manage their populations...
But it's all about grubbing up a hierarchy and taking for yourself.
I don't remember what Clair did to get booted from Parliament. Something to do with lying about radio.
Ayesha's their 'diversity' candiate for politics. An attempt for them to show they aren't racist.
The Sims Character looks like her. Kinda. And they are the only 2 people I know with that name.
It's unfortunate.
Or...
Fate. That's how the cognitively defective brain likely sees it.
I am feeling pretty scathing. In my defence they think I'm both criminal and psychiatric. Wow.
Posted by alexandra_k on April 8, 2021, at 4:41:31
In reply to Re: what are you thinking ayesha?, posted by alexandra_k on April 8, 2021, at 4:34:26
Did well at explaining...
I am not sure I understand why the report was late. Or why things were redacted when the information is available by other means / other sources. None of that makes any sense.
Was it that they were in crisis?
How did he put it... Services have reached capacity.
That is to say... There were a bunch of measures they had (wait list times)... But they didn't want to report on those measures anymore. Because I pointed out (and I'm sure many others did, too) that in order to keep wait times down they were simply refusing to put people on wait lists. Denying treatment altogether. So reporting on wait list times was a perverse incentive. Making things worse.
He said the point of the report was... To report suicide numbers for people under the mental health act. That the mental health report's initial point was to report on people in state care. But over time it became expanded... And it lost sight of what it was supposed to be about...
Something about how 2 hours of exercise per day...
ANd you go 'yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah doctors are always at you to drink less, quit smoking, get more exercise and you'll feel better'.
But it's more about the prisons and psychiatric institutions being REQUIRED to ALLOW prisoners and in patients to exercise for up to 2 hours per day. Yard access. Activities access. F*ck*ng ping pong or whatever.
And suicide vs death of natural causes.
He didn't say it...
vs murder.
vs being bullied to death. Literally.
He says they think that suicides in state care are constant. Numbers.
As determined by a coroner.
I wonder how on the take the coroner has to be to have that job?
Yeah.
Facing up to the problem is the first step in figuring how to make things better.
This government may not have improved the measures it wanted to... But that's because it cared about the actual things of value and it seems to be genuinely trying to face up... Sometimes. Glimmers. There was no glimmers with previous government. None. Only gloat.
Posted by alexandra_k on April 9, 2021, at 0:15:33
In reply to ANdrew little, posted by alexandra_k on April 8, 2021, at 4:41:31
Just can't do it.
Nope.
Can't.
Won't.
Just can't do informed consent.
Just can't let people make up their own mind about which vaccination they want to get and when they want to get it.
I understand that if everybody wants it at the same time then we will need to figure a fair way of the timing.
But we don't even know how many people want to get it when because we don't even have a booking system for people to say when they want to have one.
Whatever kind they want.
And so on...What if I'm an Australian who is 40 and I want an AstraZenica vaccine. Or... I want a freaking vaccine, already, and I understand that there have been blood clots found in x number of people after y number of vaccinations have been given... And I don't care. I decide the risk is worth it to me.
Noooooooooooooooo.
The government has decided!ffs.
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