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Posted by alexandra_k on November 28, 2020, at 9:50:57
During the lockdown I was unlawfully detained in the Auckland Hospital against my will without grounds.
I was held in an isolation room adjacent to the ER overnight in solitary confinement. Security guard was posted outside the door and when I attempted to leave they physically barred my exit.
I requested a phone so I could telephone a lawyer and they refused. I requested a phone so I could telephone the police to report my being held against my will and they refused.
I repeatedly asked them to allow me to leave. I repeatedly told them that they had no right to involuntarily detain me against my will.
They said they could detain me indefinately against my will for as long as they liked on the grounds that someone was 'coming' to do a psychiatric assessment of me.
When the person came to do a psychiatric assessment he did not present me with identification. I don't believe he was registered / lisenced to practice psychiatry in New Zealand or in any other country. He did not conduct a proper psychiatric assessment or examination from any standard procedure that I could see. He did not take a history. He was instructed by someone passing herself off as a nurse to do the section papers to justify my detention.
I was transferred to high dependency / emergency psychiatric ICU unit. There was no lock on my bedroom door. I was to share bathroom with male residents. Every 15 minutes a torch was shone into my room in the name of observation checks (which woke me up / prevented me sleeping).
I was repeatedly denied a phone.
I had further 'interviews' with the person passing themself off as a psychiatrist. He gave me no reason to believe he was a psychiatrist or had been trained as a psychiatrist. He seemed only interested in detaining me indefinately in the high dependency ICU.
The food smelt like slops. Apparently the high dependency ICU has a different contracted food supplier to the rest of the hospital.
I stated I did not wish to take medication. Someone lied to me about medication (saying I was being given a small dose benzodiazapine to help me sleep through observation checks) when I was being given an old-generation anti-psychotic. When I refused to take a dose I was involuntarily walked into a seclusion area (mattressed on the floor) and they were going to pull my pants down and inject me until I agreed to take an oral dose.
I needed to beg and plead with a nurse to allow me to use the phone to call a district inspector.
It was only after I managed to do this (on a Friday afternoon) that I was transferred to a more regular psychiatric ward before the weekend (he was planning on detaining me in the high dependency ICU on 15 minute obs checks to prevent me sleeping for over the weekend at least).
Preventing people sleeping is a condition of torture to induce psychosis.
The other psychiatric ward doesn't heat the room to temperature. I had 5 or 6 blankets and it was still too cold to sleep.
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I am afraid about lock-downs in this country.
I went to view an apartment complex and there is largely nobody home.
There are only a few cars in the carpark.
There was no real evidence of other residents.
Each resident has access to their floor only.
I don't see what it so prevent them locking me to a single floor and refusing to allow me to leave in the name of Coronavirus.
Things do not feel at all safe for me in New Zealand.
New Zealand Universities refuse to process enrolments, completions. They refuse to get work to examiners. They refuse to sign off on Degrees.
I have spent the last few years complaining about how the government employees of New Zealand (the Universities the hospitals) don't appear to be doing any of the things that they are supposed to do.
Still, they don't appear to be doing any of the things that they are supposed to do.
I complain to politicians.
People ignore me.
I complaint via the courts. Judges give respondants leave to submit documents out of time and request me re-file my submissions. They don't get me a court date until more than half a year later.
Our country went into lock-down unlawfully.
This country detains people against their will.
This country is a nation of bullies where nobody does any of the thigs that they are required to do.
The people can't develop.
There's nothing here.
Posted by alexandra_k on November 28, 2020, at 10:03:47
In reply to involuntary confinement, posted by alexandra_k on November 28, 2020, at 9:50:57
our news is a propaganda machine. i see little evidence that it is written by real people. it likely isn't, really, since nobody seems to have speaking rights.
there's an article about how people have been given exemptions to come into quarantine for their much needed occupation of 'cleaner' or 'aged care worker'. these are occupations that typically pay minimum wage in New Zealand and are largely filled by immigrants for minimum wage. but apparently people were being given border exemptions to enter the country to work in these fields.
don't know how much they bribed the immigration processing people.
so this lady comes in. very presentable on photo. apparently she works in aged care. so she applies for job after job after job after job and she doesn't get a look-in.
they say she's too 'experienced'. by which they mean they would have to pay her more than minimum wage.
the district health boards contract everything out to Ryman Healthcare. it's an aged care facility / private hospital system listed on the New Zealand stock exchange. They took lots of government money for laying off employees over the lock-down becuase their profits were down. Before posting that profits were up to their shareholders. Paying dividends.
I think they were required or asked or whatever to pay the government back the wage subsidy they claimed (by threatening to lay off workers if they didn't get the wage subsidy).
Who wants to invest in New Zealand business?
There's them...
There's the Briscoes Warehouse Katmandu group who claimed the wage subsidy and then who fired workers anyway to post about profits to shareholders.
Then there's Fonterra who poisons Chinese infants with melamine contamination to try and make the milk powder look higher protein (nitrogen) content for greater profits.
Who wants to invest in business in New Zealand?
So after her getting her picture in the news where she's obviously a lot more presentable than their typical employees...
She's offered a job, or something.
Which apparently restores her faith in New Zealnd. Or something.
Because that's how we do. If you want to get a job then it isn't about going through the proper channels and them hirng the best person.
It's about summonsing or mustering the biggest gang you can. A tribe. Finding a tribe.
Might is right and person with biggest tribe wins!
Posted by alexandra_k on November 28, 2020, at 10:04:37
In reply to Re: involuntary confinement, posted by alexandra_k on November 28, 2020, at 10:03:47
which is why certain things are nonsensicle, in New Zealand.
healthcare being one of them.
this idea of helping the sick rather than exploiting the sick for ones own personal advantage.
Posted by ert on November 28, 2020, at 17:04:26
In reply to Re: involuntary confinement, posted by alexandra_k on November 28, 2020, at 10:04:37
...by stealing your data, not respecting international privacy laws, disregarding your copyrights and not granting you choice once you posted publicly. We rip you off and exploit you...
Phi is a broad definition that can encompass information like 20mg of lithium but it can also encompass information like your relationship with your mother and your friends, or your experiences in your daily life. Hsiung has profiles, therefore posts connected together.
New Zealand should better not buy any US fighter jets or use Juniper and Cisco 5G routers in their core 5G networks...
They won't have trust and legal certainty. But money is grossly wasted.
I hope you're successful with your lawsuits. It should have been streamlined.
Posted by ert on November 29, 2020, at 5:43:00
In reply to The US rips you off Alex, not New Zealand..., posted by ert on November 28, 2020, at 17:04:26
> ...by stealing your data, not respecting international privacy laws, disregarding your copyrights and not granting you choice once you posted publicly. We rip you off and exploit you...
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> Phi is a broad definition that can encompass information like 20mg of lithium but it can also encompass information like your relationship with your mother and your friends, or your experiences in your daily life. Hsiung has profiles, therefore posts connected together.
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> New Zealand should better not buy any US fighter jets or use Juniper and Cisco 5G routers in their core 5G networks...
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> They won't have trust and legal certainty. But money is grossly wasted.
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> I hope you're successful with your lawsuits. It should have been streamlined.
>we post on a "CLEAN NETWORK", Alex
Posted by alexandra_k on November 29, 2020, at 13:34:17
In reply to The US rips you off Alex, not New Zealand..., posted by ert on November 28, 2020, at 17:04:26
I have been doing some AP Computer Science. I don't really understand how the internet works. I actually thought everything was waves in the air and satellites. I didn't actually know about all the cables under the ocean or about how the point of fibre-optics was the speed of optics (light) rather than lower frequency waves. I suppose I did think that we must be polluting the planet for the birds, rather, with all the waves we were sending. Cables... Yeah... Okay... I didn't know that.
The New Zealand Government gives away the data of it's people whether I want it to, or not, that's the way that goes down. I don't know how much it is a selling to the highest bidder situation vs a requirement. I suspect they give it away as a requirement. I suspect it's got something to do with a requirement on 'trade'. On hand-outs, I mean to say. If we want vaccines then we hand over our data. That kind of a trade.
I am still learning about different copyright rules. Seems to me they are developing in the US. I have been following the DMCA stuff, a little bit, with streamers being SMCAd for streaming computer games with copyright music (e.g., Fallout Radio and that walking simulator one with the baby in a jar -- I can't remember the name of it). There's a system of 'share and share alike' etc etc. I am working through it...
I suppose it's about trade-off.
> New Zealand should better not buy any US fighter jets or use Juniper and Cisco 5G routers in their core 5G networks...
I don't know about these things. I just got a new phone with a couple years of software support and updates and the like and it started losing functionality from the day I got it. Everything worked to start with but now there's some Microsoft conflict where my phone is trying to hijack my computer, or similar. Microsoft and Windows 10 seems to be having problems.
> I hope you're successful with your lawsuits. It should have been streamlined.
Thanks.
New Zealand has done everything it could to delay and prevent and obstruct.
The government should have prosecuted.
International studnets represent -- millions... Billions of dollars to our economy. I pointed out that they are refusing to allow them to work to international standards. Are refusing to sign off on their qualifications when requirements for the qualifications have been met to the satisfacation of external examiners.
I pointed out that we keep international studnets as slaves, basically.
ANd what do they do about it?
So our borders get locked down. No more international studnets for us.
THe world is waiting for New Zealand to sign off on the studnets it should have signed off on, already.
Where are the qualifications for the work that was done for the contracts?
Why won't New Zealand honor it's contracts?
When studnets apply to enrol in a 3 year PhD then why don't you get their work to examiners so they can complete the qualification within the 3 years?
Nobody in this country does any of the things that they are supposed to do.
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Did Jacinda Ardern really go to Waikato University and complete a Communications Degree?
I... FInd it hard to believe that I wouldn't have heard of her... That she wouldn't have been involved in student politics... That she wouldn't have appeared in Nexus (the student magazine)...
I don't know... Something seems off. Truly.
Shane Reti... Apparently he did a Degree at Waikato because doing another Degree at Auckland in 'Human Biology' before doing another Degree in Medicine with Auckland. Only, Auckland doesn't offer a Degree in 'Human Biology' at all. I know becuase many many many students would love to do that Degree but they can't because Auckland doesn't offer that Degree. Because Auckland doesn't have the teaching staff / faculty to teach an entire Degree on that subject. You have to do Pharmacology or Physiology or Biochemistry or Chemistry or Biology... There is no anatomy Degree. There is no human biology Degree.
It's just not plausible.
None of it rings true.
It's just conn-munications. It's a conn.
By people who squawkity squawk squawk all day to ensure New Zealand doesn't develop to ensure they get to keep all the stuff...
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The University of Auckland had no grounds to decline me entry to start second year of a six year medical degree in 2019 and then again in 2020. But they didn't want ot train me and the lengths they went to... All the way to getting the University of Waikato to falsify my academic transcripts.
New Zealand keeps me as a hostage on disability. There is no employment.
They won't say that I am too old.
But the issue is that they only look at the youngest possible so they are wide-eyed and compliant and so they work for minimum wage.
Otherwise it's all abotu 'who is your Daddy' which (in this country) is about teh size / power of your tribe in a might is right mentality.
'And what are you going to do about it?' is the whole thing with here.
The gang bangers move in across the road and do whatever they want and they all just let them.
Police set up shop at the end of the road and wave and smile and egg them on.
I suppose it is because the Government didn't pay the police. So they police are on the take.
And then you add all the off-lisence 'security guards' who believe they have the authority to go abotu bullying everyone. The security guards are often the biggest offenders because they think they have right of entry and right to order about and so on and so forth.
Civilisation... Society has fallen apart.
There isn't any.
There aren't any people about.
Just glimpses of SUV's with the windows up.
People working 'from home'. Which just means well away from here.
I showed it for the sh*t-show that it is, is all.
They actually aren't capable of doing anything properly. Don't know how. Can't do it. It's a reading comprehension thing. Lack of it.
The courts have problems because who populates the courts? Who did the Universities give law degrees to?
Good people cannot do business, here.
The government (and every other faction) is heavy-handed on micro-mismanagement and control. And the trouble is that they are grossly incompetent and inept and insist on micro-mismanaging things for the worse, only.
I know things are bad for many many people many many places around the US.
It's just about... Like minded individuals, I suppose. Peers. A cohort. Something like that.
People like me fled this country because they really are not welcome by the leaders, here. Our leaders are tyrants who will not allow the people to develop. Constantly bicking and bitching and fighting against other tyrants. Squabbling and squawking...
People can't get work done, here. Nothign is produced.
Nothign to trade. Sorry.
Nobody home.
Posted by alexandra_k on November 29, 2020, at 13:46:45
In reply to Re: The US rips you off Alex, not New Zealand..., posted by alexandra_k on November 29, 2020, at 13:34:17
You have an organisations.
Have 10 chiefs. Tribal chief executive leaders ooooooooooooooh mighty tribal chieftons. Each of them on several hundreds of thousands of dollars per year. Several hundreds of thousands of dollars per year of government hand-out for them.
So the tribal chieftons have have meetings. Meetings... Meetings... Meetings about meetings about meetings. Tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars per year for meetings. For conference meetings. For hotels and for cars and for venues and for food. The government funded tribal chieftons the chief executives the government workers.
And what do they do, exactly?
Child poverty?
Cancer care?
Ambulances?You name it they do it. They micro-mis-manage it. All the things. All teh things... This is how do do (how we do not do) all the things. All the things that we do.
Ensuring the children stay in poverty (how can we grow our budget? how can we grow our business? how can we ensure that more and more and more children live in more and more and more poverty so we get more and more and more of the budget?)
how can we ensure more people get cancer?
how can we ensure greater need / demand for ambulance?
But there's no money left.
There's no money to spend on doing anything other than making the situation worse.
Because that's good business.
That's how you grow your business.
That's how you grow into a business that figures a way to get money from the people independently from the government (not just relying on government hand-outs but some kind of co-pay from the people situation)... So then we can say it's independent from the government and list it on the stock exchange!
People here don't know anything at all about teh most basic of things in growth or economics. The idea of investing in that which you want to see more of...
I'm talking about our leaders.
The tribal chieftons who did Degrees in Medicine before choosing to pursue their dream in administration or politics.
Never did Economics 101.
Of course they got the Degree to say that they did that.
Of course.
They got alllllllllllllllllllllllllllll the things. What thing did they not get that they wanted?
Money.
Job and Degree Titles.
Property.That's what life is about -- right? That is the meaning?
Then you can go about in your SUV with your windows rolled up and you have your property with your big fence.
And you can play all day.... Squawkity squawkity squawk.
There's nobody home.
Posted by alexandra_k on November 29, 2020, at 14:02:56
In reply to Re: The US rips you off Alex, not New Zealand..., posted by alexandra_k on November 29, 2020, at 13:46:45
Nothing gets processed in NZ. People don't follow / can't follow process.
I don't really know what the problem is... How it goes...
When people apply for various things.
People apply for visas to come into New Zealand.
People apply to enrol in various Degrees.I don't know what goes on.
I suppose there are many many people who are employed to process. And I imagine that their job is unnecessarily confusing and convoluted.
The way it seems to be, these days, is that we have software that was supplied to us from overseas. We usually get the cheapest and least fit for purpose... I don't know what goes on / what goes wrong at this initial stage. But typically the software is not fit for purpose. That is to say that the field boxes won't take answers that people need to give. Or whatever. People are forced to say things that aren't true. Or people are required to mis-enter things or say things that aren't true when entering the data. I suppose the point of it is to null and void and render illegitimate ALL the applications. I think that is the idea.
Then you have an army of workers who are relatively low paid. And this army all attest to things being processed. And the processing being complicated. And so on.
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And I suppose it is mostly all to conceal the fact that there are a few people (a few people) who basically 'yay' or 'nay' all the applications fairly independnetly of the forms.
Who are these people? I don't know. I don't know the magic words to find these people. I imagine you start making phone calls and spend days or weeks or months figuring out who you are required to sing homage praises to or who you are required to pay bribes to in order to get you thing processed.
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A research Degree...
Start with the post-modernist essay generator. Then get it to your supervisor. Then you spend all your time walking about on campus...
I am tribal chiefton leader ho! I am tribal chiefton leader PhD student. I have the titles! HO! Oh mighty tribal chiefton leader me!
Then you get the work back and the supervisor has scribbed out the things they didn't like and written stuff on it.
So then you take the stuff they wrote and copy-paste that into the content.
Then you get it back to the supervisor so they write the next section. And you are back to 'networking' your tribal chiefton leader self around campus ho!
And in this way the employees of the Univeristy write the thesis for you... Eventually... It will be late. You will have to do lots of crying to them about how afraid yo uare that you will fail so they get into reassuring you mode. They will be like 'well no you have been working for 20 years on a 1 year degree and probably you might just scrape through probably you will'... So that they decide that it would actually be better for them if they signed you off already.
Actually it's more about you networking with other people to bully them into signing you off.
'Why haven't you signed her off, yet?'
Those conversations.
But don't forget the most important part... You spend you life 'networking' the biggest and feircest group of bullies you can.
Because the biggest tribe wins -- you see?
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And in this manner we don't produce fit for purpose software. We don't produce vaccines. We don't develop curriculum....
Apparently someone is translating Dr Seuss into Maaori. I suppose becuase i said someplace that I learned to read with Dr Seuss and since I can read...
Except I cant' read -- right?
Except that we just SAY that alex is retarded while knowing full well that she isn't.
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees translating will help.
Because Dr Seuss will still rhyme when it's in Maaori. They totally understood what I meant.
They did not undersetand.
There's no comprehension.
An electrition is not a builder.
Running a cord behind a heater means running a cord between the heater and the surface it is rear mounted on.There's no point talking with stupid.
But stupid has all the power.
All the power to sit about going 'what? what what? what what what what? meetings for meetings about meetings to have meetings for security guards to 'help' with the crimes that we like to have for our meetings of tribal bully chieftons all sittting about in our swampyl swamp swamp.With our hostages.
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We lead the world with our Covid elimination strategy!
But good people cannot do business with us...
We are working from home and still...
Crying crying crying for hand-outs. Who will give us a vaccine?
Leading the world in crying for hand-outs.
Who will give us a vaccine?
Every nation in the world aspires to be like us.
Leading the way in crying for vaccine hand-outs.
Where are your tribal leader microbiologists? The scientists with the money and titles and power? HOw are their labs of slaves doing? Making you vaccines? How's that working?
Posted by alexandra_k on November 29, 2020, at 14:13:39
In reply to Re: The US rips you off Alex, not New Zealand..., posted by alexandra_k on November 29, 2020, at 14:02:56
we will be part of a trial.
becuase our government is cheap and will sign contracts (has already signed contracts, no doubt) that sold out it's people.
we will be part of a 'if we give a bunch of people this then what will happen to them' vaccine strategy.
i mean it's no worse than what the government of New Zealand does with (allows to happen with) it's people already -- right?
the inter-generational observational studies of... what? lack of intervention. failure to intervene.
the cancer progression studies.
the people who consent to screening tests. who consent to biopsy samples being taken. who have qualified professionals look at their results. who withhold results in order to see what happens over the long haul. to see how many people die of cancer and how long the cancer takes to kill them.
screening test, anyone?
volunteers?
who wants a vaccine in new zealand?
do you want a screening test to go with that?
do you want a Covid screening test to go with that?
do you want us to stop by your house in the night... the people with biggest tribe. 'open up, security. this is the government. this is the police. this is the military. this is security. open up. open up in the name of security. we say you have Covid. you have Covid. come with us. you are required to come with us. come with us in the name of security'.
'you are required to be anesthetised in the name of security.
so we can put you on a ventillator in the name of Covid.
don't worry we will keep you immobilised and comfortable.
and weak for... days.. weeks.. months.. years.'
in the name of medical science. in the name of helping you helping you helping myself to you. in the name of security.
there's really nothing here.
the people don't actually produce anything.
the people don't actually process anything.
there's just who has all the stuff and who gets screwed over.
this country does not value me at all.
my rights are persistenly and repeatedly violated.
and they just go 'hahahahahaha what are you going to do about it?'they are f*ck*ng psychopathic war criminals who should be involuntarily detained for their war crimes in detention facilities to prevent them harming innocent people.
but it's playing whack-a-mole.
New Zealand is concentration camp island.
there's nobody home. there's nobody here.
Posted by alexandra_k on November 29, 2020, at 14:20:52
In reply to Re: The US rips you off Alex, not New Zealand..., posted by alexandra_k on November 29, 2020, at 14:13:39
and the teachers pretend to teach
and the students pretend to learn
and it's just a pretence or facade to obscure the fact that the money and titles and jobs and degrees and so on and so forth go to the people they were always going to go to...and the only reason i exist, at all, is for their enjoyment of exploitation of me.
yay.
i didn't ask to be born.
i didn't ask to be born here.
the nation is f*ck*ng idiotic. lunacy.
i shouldn't even bother to read the news.
people just steal from me. take from me. take all my stuff.
cry cry cry for hand-outs.
it makes them feel better about themselves that they force me to be in a situation of worse.
they go 'we know you are but what am i?' by forcing me to cry for handouts.
because they refuse to credit me / acknowledge me / sign me off / pay me for the work that i do.
the Universiyt of AUckland lawyers (who filed things they were not asked to file, who did not file things they were required to file.). The University of Auckland lawyers did not file a statement of defence by the deadline. That means judgement may proceed in their absense.
So the courts proceeded to judgement -- right?
TO streamline things. To get justice done in a timely fashion -- right?
To keep legal costs down -- right?
No. The courts decided that the University of AUckland lawyers could bill / invoice for costs for work they did that they werent' supposed to do and could bill / invoice for work that they did that was late.
So Auckland lawyers claim over $40,000 of legal / court costs when tehy didn't do the most basic of thing that they were supposed to do.
Step 1: File statement of defence (to the claim that was filed) within 25 days.
They did not do that.
I filed a statemetn of claim for judicial review 11 May 2020.
Where is teh f*ck*ng judgement?
THe courts in New Zealand are a f*ck*ng joke.
Posted by alexandra_k on November 29, 2020, at 14:23:33
In reply to Re: The US rips you off Alex, not New Zealand..., posted by alexandra_k on November 29, 2020, at 14:20:52
the courts in NZ are a f*ck*ng joke.
everything, in NZ is a f*ck*ng joke.i know everything in NZ is a f*ck*ng joke.
i know it's becuase people are not competent.but the people who are competent are bullied and run out of town.
to ensure that NZ remains a f*ck*ng joke.
to ensure that things stay a swampy swamp swamp sh*t hole.
Posted by alexandra_k on December 1, 2020, at 15:51:04
In reply to The US rips you off Alex, not New Zealand..., posted by ert on November 28, 2020, at 17:04:26
my worry about the US...
I need to start with a story.
There was a puppy and the puppy was mistreated and abused. Kicked and beaten and not fed and abandoned. They tried to drown it. Etc.
Then the puppy was taken in by people and kept with lots of other misused and abused and abandoned puppies.
Then, eventually, some people came and took the puppy and gave it some semblance of a normal life.
And that puppy was *so grateful*. That puppy was *most loyal puppy ever*.
Everybody knows that story -- right? About why to get a rescue animal. About how they make the most loyal and faithful and loving pets.
So then...
Wicked people start getting ideas. They start getting ideas about things they can do to enable or allow or even promote puppy abuse. So as to produce many loyal and faithful and loving puppies.
My worry is that:
ahahahahahahahahahahhahahhaa and what are you going to do about it?
My worry is that nothing is done about it because...
Well, because people get away with it. Of course.
People are getting away with it.
Because New Zealand is a land of tribal bullies and the only language they understand is the kid outside who beats up anybody who dares use his tunnel on their commute at night because it's his tunnel, you see.
People wouldn't believe all the injustices and things that have happened to me in this supposedly civilised and first world country of New Zealand.
I don't have faith in anything at all.
Our Universities... Populated by the IHC. I mean... Look at the research they are conducting. The ethical issues with it. The data handling. And so on...
What's going on?
Why does the developed world allow NZ to do these things?
I suppose our borders mostly have been locked down to international students, now. They have let in a few (who started already) so they can honor their contracts to them (hahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahah) sort of by at least letting them submit theses and signing them off (hahahahhahahahhahahahhhahahahhahhahahah) but no new studnets so far as I can see...
They simply will not do any of the things they are supposed to do.
Millions of dollars and no work is done.
Nothing is processed.
Visas aren't processed properly.
Applications aren't processed properly.
Applications for housing...
Everything.Voting?
Elelctions?
CEnsus?None of it.
Posted by alexandra_k on December 1, 2020, at 15:55:49
In reply to my worry about the US, posted by alexandra_k on December 1, 2020, at 15:51:04
It was not so very long ago that a nurse was imprisoned for wrongful death.
She mixed expired anasthetic solution (instead of saline) with vaccine which resulted in wrongful death (and also likely in ineffective vaccination) of many kids. That was the MMR vaccine.
When you hear of a case like that... You need to then realise that they don't prosecute people really ever ever ever at all. That means that the problematic behavior is far more wide-spread and far more problematic than was ever actually properly established or proved.
Likely the nurse was a scape-goat. Was it her very very own bright idea to do that -- or did someone suggest it to her? Was she acting under instructions from someone else? Who trained her? New Zealand? Where is New Zealand did she train? Was she literate? Was she capable of reading manufacturers instructions on how the vaccine was to be stored and administered?
This is not so long ago.
Give us Covid vaccine! Give us Covid vaccine wah!!
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