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Posted by ert on October 16, 2018, at 15:34:47
In reply to Re: This website is full of copyright infringements, posted by alexandra_k on October 16, 2018, at 1:03:38
Diabetes is big business, Alexandra. There was immense growth in the last decades. But intellectual property rights are important eg. for inventions. Instead of importing very expensive needles or pens, NZ could produce the needles themselves. U would need a bank credit, a good engineer and space, Alexandra. For other things than needles the market is fairly saturated and I do not think that many companies would survive.
Posted by alexandra_k on October 16, 2018, at 17:00:53
In reply to Re: This website is full of copyright infringements, posted by ert on October 16, 2018, at 15:34:47
> Diabetes is big business
Yes.
> But intellectual property rights are important eg. for inventions.
Not for us, apparently. I thought it was because we were being cheap, that we were using generics fairly much exclusively. But I guess I've learned more that we aren't even using generics. I mean, people are doing observational studies of what happens when people don't get generic antibiotics. Or, control trials where people from certain clincis or regions don't get generic antibiotics. The rest of the developed world knows that antibiotics are effective -- which is why they prescribe them. Not just generic ones, but trying to develop other ones, too. We have decided to take the really very low road, indeed, of just observing... Collecting up some samples and sending off the labs and observing...
> Instead of importing very expensive needles or pens, NZ could produce the needles themselves.
Needles, ya reckon? I don't know anything about needle production.
> U would need a bank credit, a good engineer and space, Alexandra. For other things than needles the market is fairly saturated and I do not think that many companies would survive.
Yeah. It's a tough one.
I still don't understand why we (used to have) these habitat for humanity types of things where volunteers would assemble healthy homes for people in developed nations... But it's supposedly impossible for us to house our very own people. Even our rural ones. Perhaps especially our rural ones.
Posted by ert on October 17, 2018, at 14:01:45
In reply to Re: This website is full of copyright infringements, posted by alexandra_k on October 16, 2018, at 17:00:53
in nz there are less germs (infection diseases) alexandra than somewhere else, to some extent you're fairly privileged.
i saw a film of the housing problem in nz. in the central areas of the cities they lack more and more space and the land got expensive. so they paid the inhabitants of the central areas a presumably too little price for a resettlement. the immigration program was fiercely debated and some people opposed the practice of a governor to facilitate immigration and citizenship for very wealthy persons.
Posted by alexandra_k on October 20, 2018, at 20:10:05
In reply to Re: This website is full of copyright infringements, posted by ert on October 17, 2018, at 14:01:45
> Diabetes is big business, Alexandra.
Yes, I saw that. Respiratory illness is big business, here.
> But intellectual property rights are important eg. for inventions.
And to allow a way of life for our artists. I was doing intellectual work. There was no harm in my posting that work, here, because that work would not have been acknowledged as my own / the fruits of my labour / no way of life would have been allowed to me in virtue of my publishing it in any other way.
I realise I've done a lot of work over the years... And becuase it is intellectual work people have just bullied me out of acknowledging it. Just rubbished it or trashed it or said I hadn't worked hard enough or whatever. Just because... They could. I mean... Why wouldn't you - if you think you can get away with it? Tee hee. 'We were waiting to see when you were going to stand up for yourself!'
Awful people.
> Instead of importing very expensive needles or pens, NZ could produce the needles themselves.
I think it might be a little harder to produce medical grade needles or pens than you are letting on... And there's plastic for the barrels and whatever metal for the tips. I would imagine the machinary would be very expensive to develop / make / calibrate / maintain. We can't manage to produce... Well... Much of anything, to be honest.
> in nz there are less germs (infection diseases) alexandra than somewhere else, to some extent you're fairly privileged.
I don't know about that. I think there are germs mostly everywhere and they're fairly opportunistic about immunocompromised individuals. Whether they eat crap or live in crap or whatever... We have very high rates of rheumatic fever (a third world disease resulting in prolongued lack of access to antibiotics to treat what was initially a simple strep throat infection) and respiratory illness. From the damp and cold homes. And schools.
> i saw a film of the housing problem in nz. in the central areas of the cities they lack more and more space and the land got expensive. so they paid the inhabitants of the central areas a presumably too little price for a resettlement.
$5,000. It was to try and get them out of the inner city school districts. That was the idea. We had people willing to try and raise kids in the inner city apartments because they wanted their kids in the inner city school zones. I applied for the grant and I did not get it. They didn't say why, but it wasn't hard to figure it out. They made a comparable amount 'non-recoverable'. Which was a way of... Fiddling some statistic or other, I'm sure.
> the immigration program was fiercely debated and some people opposed the practice of a governor to facilitate immigration and citizenship for very wealthy persons.
I don't really know about that.
I've been doing a bunch of stuff on Khan academy economics, which has been really helpful. And I subscribed to 'Consumer' a while back. It's a sort of a charitable trust, or something, that provides some legal advice and a bi-monthly magazine on consumer law issues and they do sort of independent testing and reviews and the like. I remember they offered sort of good quality and sensible advice when I was a kid (reading me magazine). My Dad liked it, and would use it to help inform purhasing decisions, and the like.
Anyway... I asked their advice about trespass ordering statistics New Zealand to stop knocking on my door because they have this 'don't knock' sticker for travelling salespeople and were trying to get judges to enforce violations of that with fines.
Anyway... They have a bunch of stuff on insurance... And money... And finance... And I see that Kiwisaver is this thing... That I didn't know about / do / don't have because I don't have full time employment. It's this voluntary savings scheme thing that you are automatically enrolled in such that it takes actual effort to get yourself out of. There are over 20 different authorised agents for it... And it looks like you are automatically allocated one at random for the automatic thing (but you can change to your preference if you want).
ANd there is a bunch of information from each of the different providers. And different options with different risks... And so on...
And I see that I have been locked out. That that is one of the things that everyone else knew / is into / has been into for however many years now...
While I... Labour away for...
Nothing.
Yay. What a wondeful world.
Posted by alexandra_k on October 20, 2018, at 20:18:49
In reply to Re: This website is full of copyright infringements, posted by alexandra_k on October 20, 2018, at 20:10:05
And if I contribute around $21 per week the government contributes around $500 per year. And you can use up to $5,000 towards the purchase of your first home and up to $10,000 towards the purchase of your first new build.
Which is only 2-3 years later.
So, anyway... Looking at the differnet risk options...
And the different things you can invest in...
A lot of the different options seem to be... Well... Something along the lines of foreign websites. Probably developed by others in the effort to educate us...
And there are different things you can invest in. From alcohol to oil exploration to...
Treatments for diabetes or respiratory illness. Private hospitals. Aged care facilities.
And so on...
There was some islamic one that said they money was purified because of their ethical investment policies. They were investing in US companies because of the amount of disclosure required to check they were ethical companies.
But something about how they don't think it is okay to make money from money. So the contribution given to them from the IRD (I think that means the contribution from your salary and from your employer) is not pure. They say they will keep that amount aside. And ask you to donate that to charity when you get your payout. They can calculate that amount for you, later.
I didn't understand that, at all.
Anyway...
I can do it now, I suppose.
I realise my Mother is worse than I thought she was. She's been investing for years. Just not in me. Never in me. I think I did this post thing when I was very young (they encouraged all kids). You were supposed to take along 50c a week (we were a poor school). I did it for like 3 times or something and then I wasn't allowed.
People just always have bullied me out of things. Because they could. Nobody stood up for me. Nobody taught me to stand up for myself.
WHen I do stand up for myself people laugh and say they were 'just teasing'. People really are awful.
Posted by alexandra_k on October 20, 2018, at 20:43:00
In reply to Re: This website is full of copyright infringements, posted by alexandra_k on October 20, 2018, at 20:18:49
I think I was supposed to stand up to my supervisor when I was in Aussie.
When I gave the talk that was supposed to be my mid-term only my supervisor said at the last minute it couldn't be my mid-term because... He had issues with the formatting or he had issues with the content... I was supposed to try and bully him into it being my mid-term. I wasn't supposed to... Trust him that he was acting in my best interest.
Then afterwards, when I was at drinks with the other students... Where it is customary for everyone to go to drinks and then dinner... When the only staff member came out briefly to say that he just spent the last hour trying to convince the other staff members that what I'd done wasn't 'that bad'.
I was supposed to say: 'Well then, why didn't any of them have the balls to say how bad it was to my face?' Like... During the 40 minutes of question time I had previously endured when most of them really didn't have anything to say to my face, at all.
I just let them bully me out of it. I mean... I didn't want to work with / for them anymore. I was done, at that point. I mean... It wasn't like any of them were doing anything particularly better that I could see.
When they failed me for those undergraduate essays I was supposed to go along and meet with them in person. That was what that was...
It was like how years and years and years and years before this education professor at Waikato used to withhold students essay returns and make them go see her for them. She'd do that to some students so she could have a chat to them. It became a big deal because she was trying to persuade them to join her in her prostitution travels (she worked on prostitution as a form of education which involved her interviewing prostitutes and also working along side them and also involved her trying to pursuade / convince her students to join her / them). Some law student decided to complain... Anyway...
Anyway... Since that I don't think it is a good idea to go to people's office when they call you to do so. My expeirience is they are more likely to try and bully you into something good for them and bad for you.
Not that things appear to be much better in a public setting.
It's because I don't huddle with a gang. You need gang protection to survive in these parts. It is a culture of bullies. I don't really see persons... The people with power are people who choose to keep harems. One salary means you get to support your partner and the kids and maybe an auntie or a friend or something to be your cleaner and maybe childminder. Kind of a like a nanny. Maybe a cook. one salary to support... 4 people? 5 people? 6 people?
One person...
What is that, like 1/6?
There's this whole life-stages thing to try and bully people into towing some line, too...
But I see, now, how you see how people choose to spend their money. And the whole thing about the perception of risk and the like.
I will always be sacrified for the interests of some larger group, here. Becuase I am an outlier.
The thing with the risk... Tying it to life-stages... The thing is you need an exit strategy, isn't it? If you want to take the money out then they can... Stall you for up to 6 months, or something. So I imagine they process it at the time when it is lowest on the cycle... So you want to transitoin out through thte phases. From high risk to lower risk to lower risk to lower risk.. So the time to maturity sums. Liquidity... That's the trouble, isn't it?
Anyway... I honestly suspect it's all just data collection on the 'choices' people make according to the marketing they have been given. At the end of the day I put in an amount becuase the government will match 1/2 so that's some free money. My employer would also have to match my contribution (if I contribute the lowest amount) only I don't have an employer so they obviously contribute nothing.
I see it is still true that nothing grows here.
The a2 milk thing... What are they doing? Trying to get our cows selectively bred to eliminate a particular milk protein. Suppose they succeed in that enterprise of our eliminating that particular milk protein. At that point it will be discovered that that particular milk protein (that was eliminated) is a goldmine for whatever reason. Generally... Selectively breeding one thing to the exclusion of diversity is a bad thing. A bad investment. The a2 milk thing sounds to me like a scheme cooked up by someone far too smart to be a kiwi to undermine our dairy industry.
Which might well make it a good investment.
Sigh.
Nasty.
Posted by alexandra_k on October 20, 2018, at 21:30:18
In reply to Re: This website is full of copyright infringements, posted by alexandra_k on October 20, 2018, at 20:43:00
I guess it's because they want to see me grovel / be supplicant.
They want to see me afraid. Seeking reassurance from them. Being all like 'oh my god I'm so concerned, if I don't finish my thesis whatever will happen to me in life?'
Camus. The trial. How he was supposed to present to the jury.
Only...
I guess I thought they were professional. Upstanding. Trustworthy. Worthy of respect because of how they conducted themselves. Honest. Fairminded. Or, if not entirely, at least trying to be.
If an academic can't give an essay a fair mark then I don't want to have anything to do with that academic. If that academic thinks that an appropriate use of their power is to use a grade as a 'communication' and more particularly to fail the people they like the most / want to see grovel to them the most that's a pretty f*ck*ng scary person to keep the hell away from to my mind.
It's like the kid who pulls the other kids hair... Except we aren't three anymore and the kid pulling the hair isn't another kid, at all, it's the f*ck*ng grown-up in charge of the f*ck*ng situation.
See... When they behave like that I can't respect them anymore.
I guess I was supposed to be motivated to just knuckle down and get things done. I don't know why I got it into my head that people would try and help you complete a PhD -- not intentionally obstruct you from doing that / intentionally hide / refrain from mentioning important bits of information to you. I guess that's why you are supposed to grovel and be supplicant...
Only...
Self-Respect.
Again... People are telling me they were waiting for me to stand up for myself... I'm the person who refused to be kept for 1 year in 'frictional unemployment' just so they could see me bow and scrape and cook and clean their households... Social contact for them on demand...
Why would I want to join them? When they behave like that?
If they want me to stick around / help them: They need to treat me better.
Uh... Do unto others???
I guess it must be really really really really really f*ck*ng fun for them to be surrounded by lackeys.
Sigh.
Awful people.
Posted by alexandra_k on October 20, 2018, at 21:32:52
In reply to Re: This website is full of copyright infringements, posted by alexandra_k on October 20, 2018, at 21:30:18
That is right. They weren't waiting for me to stand up, at all. They were waiting for me to bow and scrape. And I decided it wasn't worth it to me.
I remember when I was a kid and often when I had 2 friends there would come a time when one of those friends would try and make me choose which if them I liked best.
I would try and say that I didn't want to choose: I liked them both.
If they made me choose I would choose the one who did not make me choose.
That's a no brainer -- right?
That's not a nice game to play and I resent the person who tries to make me play it. Why can't we all just get along?
Of course often my decision resulted in the two of them ganging up on me.
When we were three...
Nothing changes.
Posted by alexandra_k on October 21, 2018, at 6:46:01
In reply to Re: This website is full of copyright infringements, posted by alexandra_k on October 20, 2018, at 21:32:52
I summarized The Stranger a long time ago, with a remark I admit was highly paradoxical: 'In our society any man who does not weep at his mother's funeral runs the risk of being sentenced to death.' I only meant that the hero of my book is condemned because he does not play the game.
That's right... Invest in... Tie your fortune to... Something that involves the subjugation of others.
Or else...
Posted by alexandra_k on October 21, 2018, at 6:54:33
In reply to Re: This website is full of copyright infringements, posted by alexandra_k on October 21, 2018, at 6:46:01
That was a quote from Camus I found on Wikipedia.
Complicity.
I see...
Posted by alexandra_k on October 21, 2018, at 20:10:24
In reply to Re: This website is full of copyright infringements, posted by alexandra_k on October 21, 2018, at 6:54:33
I don't really know what to say about why I didn't finish my thesis. I guess I keep trying out different versions.
I think, at the end of the day, my heart just went out of philosophy. I remember before I started my PhD I was thinking about Medicine. But I thought the UMAT involved math (the way the GRE did)...
I guess I didn't look into it properly? I just thought that there was no way... And when I expressed that nobody encouraged me to look into it more or whatever...
So I guess I thought my PhD was the thing for me to do... But the more I did that the more I wanted to do Med...
And I guess it doesnt' feel like sucking up or being a lackey when you feel like you are learning heaps from the people you want to be learning heaps from. I didn't start out with a supervisor picked out, though. The idea was for me to start and try and do my project with broad appeal and things were just supposed to work out (said the person who successfully supervised me with a previous project where he was happy with my output). But that didn't really work out... Because I didn't really take to the projects others were working on, and they didn't really take to what it was I was working on...
Anyway...
If I get to do it now, that's okay. I guess I've learned something about looking into things more (instead of assuming I can't do whatever). Also learned something about not everyone wants the same thing, so it's okay to shoot for what you want. Also learned that most people talk garbage mostly and also most people don't know what they are talkign about. Me included haha. You try out different things to see what seems to resonate... You try out different things with others to see what they mirror...
My supervisor was a deeply ethical man in some respects. He writes wonderfully, at times. There is an honest, open, and forthright style that I like and enjoy very much and try to emulate. He doesn't have time for some of the social nicety things (dresses like a hobo and so on) and that was also something that I respected, actually. This idea that you can't tell a person's... Integrity? The things that matter from such superficialities as how they are dressed, their accent, or how they say 'how do you do?' Though... I suppose I am coming to be of two minds about that.
I guess the thing with supervisors is that you (as a student) have to deal with their own insecurities. When supervisors give you a hard time it is because they are sort of... Personally suffering thinking they are accountable for your work. You sort of have to reassure them that your work is okay. They are your worst enemy... If you aren't your worst enemy. Not out of maliciousness... Out of fear. Being charitable here. Yeah. I do see that. It was hard for the department because it didn't look like i was engaging in / with any of the work that any of them (or any of their friends) were doing. I picked a topic and researched it and I wasn't engaging with anything... And the main strength of the department was that it was fairly bolstered by a tight group of people who really engaged with each other (and a genuine aspect to that and not merely a token referencing but a genuine engagement with and interaction with ideas).
It was partly my insecurity... People working on game theory and high level logic and biology... And my background was in psychology with no math. So I didn't think I had anything particularly to offer... So I worked on something always feeling like what I was saying was pretty rubbish insofar as it was glaringly obvious to everyone I hadn't done Biology 101 and so on...
Anyway...
I truly don't understand how it can have taken me so very many f*ck*ng years to get the equivalent of a secondary school education in math / the sciences. And that... Still only barely. It's a f*ck*ng joke. Our education system.
But the thing I've realised really is that we are not egalitarian peoples. We don't believe in the fundamental equality between people in the respects that matter. So much energy and effort is spent on this game of positioning oneself on a hierarchy. Every interaction is spent with this initial thing... Like dogs do... Of trying to assess whether one can get one up over on / whether one will submit to... It's an awful game and I don't want to play it.
Of course I understand there is a time and a place for doing what you are told when you are told because you are told. But that's because there are good reasons (e.g., because there are structures who ensure that the people put in the position of power / responsibility is competent and acting in that capacity). Not 'because I'm your Mother and I say so' or 'because I'm your lecturer and I say so' or whatever. Especially when the structures here seem more set up to reward people having children for the wrong reasons and hiring people as lecturers who... I don't know... I don't know what academia is about.
I know we are all over the Queensland university rating system, here, becuase it gives us 1 university in the top 100 or some such. But it's meaningless...
Look at the work they are doing and the work their students are doing and look at the number of students they get through and where those students are at now...
Kiwisaver is an interesting place to start learning about finance.
I'm glad I have this summer to look into financial stuff and immigration and so on... Requirements for various things...
At the end of the day we don't have the laws to protect our people and it isn't likely that business etc will allow us to develop them, anytime soon. That is... Unfortunate... I also think that there is something intrinsically indecent about hirarchy / lack of egalitarianism. But I realise that is controversial. It would be good if there was a place for hierarchical people to put themselves if they want to behave like that with consenting others, I suppose...
(I don't know that it is possible to consent to that)
Anyway...
I also think that just like how there are awful people of all races there are awful people / places of all countries. I'm all right... Just keep on keeping on...
Yeah.
Posted by alexandra_k on October 21, 2018, at 20:21:50
In reply to This website is full of copyright infringements, posted by ert on October 14, 2018, at 9:45:02
Are these copyright infringements?
Pathology records?
Radiology records?
Prescsription records?
Presenting complaints / symptoms records?
The information is kept in databases.
We can add other information besides.
You can track the individual's 'level of deprivation' by way of their residential address. The residential address would give you information about such things as their household water supply source, known soil and air pollutants and so on.
You could add information about activity levels (e.g., by way of phone apps or fitness devices).
There is no opt in / opt out insofar as the person chooses to utilise pathology or radiology or prescriptions or medical advice or smartphones / fitness devices.
The information could be used for...
All kinds of things...
Mostly to keep the oppressed oppressed, I suppose. And to figure out ways to kick more and more and more and more and more and more and more of them back...
Posted by alexandra_k on October 21, 2018, at 20:43:51
In reply to Re: This website is full of copyright infringements, posted by alexandra_k on October 21, 2018, at 20:21:50
So the kiwisaver thing... Looks to me like the government is basically giving $500 per person per year to be invested in (given to on a long term loan) a variety of approved companies.
Companies who have been approved by the 20 different kiwisave outfits (which appears to me to be something of a diversity joke cooked up to make it look too complicated for people to research properly)... The same companies keep turning up on teh 'approved' list of what is supposedly 'safe' to invest in...
Only... Do I really want to see more of whatever it is they are selling... Or... In the case of respiratory illness do I really want to see the company try and grow the demand for it's product?
It looks to me an awful lot like a government bail-out. The government basically handing over an amount to these companies...
I notice we are starting to have things in pairs, now, over the last couple years.
Previously we had St Johns as the monopoly on health charity. $700 for an ambulance call out. Except Wellington also had the 'Wellington Free Ambulance' which was free because it was a national embarrassment when a visiting politician collapsed on the street and was later charged for the ambulance call-out in a country that supposedly had a free health system.
This 'driving miss daisy'... Franchise... Got some prize on start up business where that was basically a jazzed up in the name of healthcare ACC and government funded 'health' taxi service...
Now I'm seeing red cross all over.
I mean... Waving flags. I'm seeing red cross flags all over.
And the occasional what looks like a transport van...
A2 was supposed to be another milk company
To try and... Disguise the fact that it's all monopoly in these parts. We pay more for locally produced dairy than people do overseas.
After the heads of A2 died from poor health (ahem) A2 is... Fonterra, now? Fonterra is now fetching around $6 for a couple litres of A2 milk.
You get some little company which starts out... Good. Seems to be. And then some giant decides to invest just enough to kill it. Or... It needs to have a strategy to help the giant grow still more (and ultimately be subsumed by it).
That's not growth. That's not sustainable. That's not... A game I wish to play, either.
At the end of the day you need to think about how much time you want to spend thinking about such things, I suppose. I haven't really thought about such things before, and I suppose it is worth a summer, at least. I do understand how you need people to keep an eye on companies and decide when it is that they have transitioned from... something you wished to see grow into... Something that you don't want to support, anymore.
It isn't about making money... It's about inveseting in that which you want to see more of...
And... wouldn't the world be better for everyone if more people did more of that?
I guess some people can't see / think / beyond their own limited lifespan or some even smaller part thereof. Which does make it an issue of cognitvie capacity.
Anyway...
I'm glad I found this... I was feeling bad wasting so much time on computer games / rubbish tv / rubbish youtube stuff. Mildly entertaining but not an investment of time... Sometimes it's hard to figure out what to do that is an investment. I always thought education... But that's been hijacked so it's just a hoop. People did say 'people will start to see it as a hoop' and I thought 'no'... Only they have taken over. People used to say 'don't do philosophy for the money' but when I ask them how things are they all say 'they pay me'. So... They are in it for the money then, after all? There we go people. You only do the arts for the money. If you do it for the art -- that will never get you paid. We must reward that which we want to see more of...
The muslim thing was interesting. Because most Kiwis will be too racist to even try and understand what they are trying to say. Ethical pro quo... I wonder which companies they think are ethical and why. I can deal with not investing in pork and pork products (but I don't have particular things against it compared to other things) but what sorts of consdierations are their high management (so high comission fees) strategy acting on?
I suppose at the end of the day I would want to pick where to put it myself. Yeah. One of them said you are investing in / buying in to the business. Then you want to know which businesses and the state of the business.
Otherwise you might find that your money has been used to get some people rich while renting out slum properties (a property portfolio) or some dodgey residential care chain that makes some people rich while basically murdering or neglecting people until dead the inhabitants so as to get earlier access to their estates and the like.
I don't know that our laws provide sufficient protection against such things happening. I don't know that we have sufficient safeguards / people looking into whether these things are happening. Preventing these things. Holding people accountable.
I would want to invest in that. Which would probably lose me money. Which is okay...
Inveset in that you want to see more of...
I mean... what's the alternative? Take what you can for as long as you can and get out? But then: Where will have you? No place I would want to live...
Posted by ert on October 22, 2018, at 12:15:46
In reply to Re: This website is full of copyright infringements, posted by alexandra_k on October 21, 2018, at 20:43:51
u could write a book instead of posting here...
Posted by alexandra_k on October 23, 2018, at 1:41:38
In reply to Re: This website is full of copyright infringements, posted by ert on October 22, 2018, at 12:15:46
I could write a book and *also* post here. And my posting here might well be a better investment of my time than trying to get a book published would be.
Posted by ert on October 23, 2018, at 7:40:46
In reply to Re: This website is full of copyright infringements, posted by alexandra_k on October 21, 2018, at 20:21:50
Are these copyright infringements?
Pathology records?
Radiology records?
Prescsription records?
Presenting complaints / symptoms records?
when you take this out of a hospital without authorization or when you publish it without authorization and won't destroy it when commanded, then it is criminal offence.
Posted by ert on October 23, 2018, at 7:50:22
In reply to Re: This website is full of copyright infringements, posted by ert on October 23, 2018, at 7:40:46
> Are these copyright infringements?
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> Pathology records?
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> Radiology records?
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> Prescsription records?
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> Presenting complaints / symptoms records?
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> when you take this out of a hospital without authorization or when you publish it without authorization and won't destroy it when commanded, then it is criminal offence.these are not radiology records, but this is medical data mixed with other data. it is published anonymous or partly anonymous, it can be tracked down and puzzled together someones identity or personality profile by querying the user name.
publishing it without authorization is IMO a criminal offence.
Posted by ert on October 24, 2018, at 3:34:44
In reply to Re: This website is full of copyright infringements, posted by ert on October 23, 2018, at 7:50:22
18 U.S. Code § 2319 - Criminal infringement of a copyright
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(a) Any person who violates section 506(a) (relating to criminal offenses) of title 17 shall be punished as provided in subsections (b), (c), and (d) and such penalties shall be in addition to any other provisions of title 17 or any other law.
(b) Any person who commits an offense under section 506(a)(1)(A) of title 17
(1) shall be imprisoned not more than 5 years, or fined in the amount set forth in this title, or both, if the offense consists of the reproduction or distribution, including by electronic means, during any 180-day period, of at least 10 copies or phonorecords, of 1 or more copyrighted works, which have a total retail value of more than $2,500;
(2) shall be imprisoned not more than 10 years, or fined in the amount set forth in this title, or both, if the offense is a felony and is a second or subsequent offense under subsection (a); and
(3) shall be imprisoned not more than 1 year, or fined in the amount set forth in this title, or both, in any other case.
(c) Any person who commits an offense under section 506(a)(1)(B) of title 17
(1) shall be imprisoned not more than 3 years, or fined in the amount set forth in this title, or both, if the offense consists of the reproduction or distribution of 10 or more copies or phonorecords of 1 or more copyrighted works, which have a total retail value of $2,500 or more;
(2) shall be imprisoned not more than 6 years, or fined in the amount set forth in this title, or both, if the offense is a felony and is a second or subsequent offense under subsection (a); and
(3) shall be imprisoned not more than 1 year, or fined in the amount set forth in this title, or both, if the offense consists of the reproduction or distribution of 1 or more copies or phonorecords of 1 or more copyrighted works, which have a total retail value of more than $1,000.
(d) Any person who commits an offense under section 506(a)(1)(C) of title 17
(1) shall be imprisoned not more than 3 years, fined under this title, or both;
(2) shall be imprisoned not more than 5 years, fined under this title, or both, if the offense was committed for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain;
(3) shall be imprisoned not more than 6 years, fined under this title, or both, if the offense is a felony and is a second or subsequent offense under subsection (a); and
(4) shall be imprisoned not more than 10 years, fined under this title, or both, if the offense is a felony and is a second or subsequent offense under paragraph (2).
(e)
(1) During preparation of the presentence report pursuant to Rule 32(c) of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, victims of the offense shall be permitted to submit, and the probation officer shall receive, a victim impact statement that identifies the victim of the offense and the extent and scope of the injury and loss suffered by the victim, including the estimated economic impact of the offense on that victim.
(2)Persons permitted to submit victim impact statements shall include
(A) producers and sellers of legitimate works affected by conduct involved in the offense;
(B) holders of intellectual property rights in such works; and
(C) the legal representatives of such producers, sellers, and holders.
(f) As used in this section
(1) the terms phonorecord and copies have, respectively, the meanings set forth in section 101 (relating to definitions) of title 17;
(2) the terms reproduction and distribution refer to the exclusive rights of a copyright owner under clauses (1) and (3) respectively of section 106 (relating to exclusive rights in copyrighted works), as limited by sections 107 through 122, of title 17;
(3) the term financial gain has the meaning given the term in section 101 of title 17; and
(4) the term work being prepared for commercial distribution has the meaning given the term in section 506(a) of title 17.
(Added Pub. L. 97180, § 3, May 24, 1982, 96 Stat. 92; amended Pub. L. 102561, Oct. 28, 1992, 106 Stat. 4233; Pub. L. 10580, § 12(b)(2), Nov. 13, 1997, 111 Stat. 1536; Pub. L. 105147, § 2(d), Dec. 16, 1997, 111 Stat. 2678; Pub. L. 107273, div. C, title III, § 13211(a), Nov. 2, 2002, 116 Stat. 1910; Pub. L. 1099, title I, § 103(b), Apr. 27, 2005, 119 Stat. 220; Pub. L. 110403, title II, § 208, Oct. 13, 2008, 122 Stat. 4263.)
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Posted by alexandra_k on October 24, 2018, at 6:55:08
In reply to Re: This website is full of copyright infringements, posted by ert on October 24, 2018, at 3:34:44
hmm. 'total retail value' was a common theme.
the medical records aren't paper records, anymore. they are electronic records that are stored... in the clouds.
where are the clouds? i don't even know if that's the relevant question. whose satellite is the information transmitted over? is that the relevant question? because that information can be intercepted. the ability to intercept it is tied to the ability to alter the signal... i would suppose.
our artists aren't supposed to live for very long. copyright is supposed to last the lifetime of an artist. it is presently 50 years. so if you create something when you are a teenager or in your twenties then it will be covered (theoretically) until you are around 70. which is plenty adequate, our government has decided. no reason to extend copyright for 70 years (thus protecting people who might invent things in their 30s into their 100's.
our people aren't considered to be worth very much, either, becuase the amount of money the government is willing to spend per head of population is significantly less than other developed nations.
mostly i think we are the control group. that means our data is valuable. it's observing the minor complaints go untreated and progress to things more sinister and continue to go untreated and continue to progress to things more sinister and continue to go untreated. all that isn't 1/2 the fun it could be if you don't get to have the information about all the (initially minor) things that are wrong with all the people.
pathology samples can give people a lot of information. there are an increasing amount of things that can be diagnosed from smaller and smaller and smaller amounts of blood, for example. radiology scans can also give people a lot of information.
by 'people' i don't mean the person who is the subject of the information.
i mean, i couldn't view the mri of my foot in high enough resolution to see whether there was evidence of hardware that was cracked / broken prior to a surgery that was intended to remove that hardware.
and apparently... neither could the surgeon who ordered the scan.
but i'm sure someone has that information... somewhere...
they probably hold the copyright?
and not me.
Posted by alexandra_k on October 24, 2018, at 7:09:34
In reply to Re: This website is full of copyright infringements, posted by ert on October 24, 2018, at 3:34:44
it's quite amazing, really, to think about how much money i paid (yet another) university this year, for the privaledge of writing them a book. they didn't pay me - i paid them. and i don't even know if they will give me the qualification that i did it for, because they think i wrote it too quickly.
i think about how much money they get paid (from salaries) to supervise me. and i think about how they didn't have problems with my timeline before... i think about how they didn't say 'no you will need to give me draft work by x date because i will need y amount of time with it' they just... thought i would not get it done, basically. all the 'support' and 'help' is around '20 minute writing sessions' and not on 'how to get people to acknowledge the work you've done' sessions.
i think about how much work i did for other people / courses, too. i think about the 2x 1500 word essays i did that were failed because they didn't like what i had to say and confused not liking what someone has to say with someone deserving to be failed for what they said. but i paid them several thousands of dollars and wasted 6 months of my life (which involved me wasting really thousands of dollars and that whole year of my time)...
to be followed by many other years, too, actually.
i think about how much government advisors and the like get paid. i read government reports that have been written and i think about how many people contributed to the writing of that report. and i think about how much each and every one of them got paid for however many years of their lives...
the kiwisaver contributions they got from the government several times over... the cocktails on friday... all that...
and this country makes me feel so sick.
really very.
totally.
so totally sick and f*ck*ng tired of it.
Posted by alexandra_k on October 24, 2018, at 7:23:11
In reply to Re: This website is full of copyright infringements, posted by alexandra_k on October 24, 2018, at 7:09:34
and there isn't a mechanism that i could find / see.
there wasn't a mechanism for an independent grader.
nobody would look into the issue. they just tried to shame me into thinking my work wasn't good enough. i'm talking a failing grade for 'population health' which is a course that was introduced with the intention of being a first in family degree (kind of like how some courses are advertised as being good for student athletes to take, to help their GPA). that's the course i failed. i was probably the only one to fail it.i don't think there is any such thing as a medical admissions committee in dunedin. i think there are 1 or two people who are making autocratic decisions and there is merely a facade of democracy. i could not get anything before the committee. instead a particular person took themself to be authorised to make decisions on their behalf. a particular person thought he was the committee, in other words.
there aren't named people.
there really any people here / left anymore.
just a couple bullies running the show. the facade...
i would think twice about investing in a tertiary education system where there are no safeguards that the papers that are required for you to finish your degree will even be around in order for you to make timely completion. with tertiary institutions who seem more intent into tricking students into doing things to have them accept they won't finish in minimum time and will just keep throwing money at the university for indefinately babysitting them and not allow them to complete their qualifications.
but then, our prime minister stood up and said we were a nation of child abusers.
and still, people want to send their kids here.
so... what are you going to do?
people seem to like it this way.
Posted by alexandra_k on October 24, 2018, at 7:34:05
In reply to Re: This website is full of copyright infringements, posted by alexandra_k on October 24, 2018, at 7:23:11
it would be like if you produced some good and people tried to bully you into believing that you should pay them for taking it off your hands / disposing of it. they say 'it'll cost money to bring in the trucks and they'll have to use roads' and they charge you a fee.
there is no way for you to get the goods to market yourself and the... brokers... managers... whoever... simply refuses to pay even a minimal living wage.
because that's what welfare is for. government handouts for useless people who are non-contributors.
you get conned into thinking what you've produced is low value.
and then you think about the government reports that were written about this, that, and the next thing. and you think about how much those government reports cost. how much the government paid people do write those reports.
and if we pretend that the reports were supposed to be something along the lines of objective inquiry (and not retrospective justification for whatever stupid thing the government had already done) then we can ask ourselves: is that government report a inferior good? If objectivity was the aim and the governmnt had more money to spend on the production of a better report then would the government spend money on producing a better report? Yes of course. And that shows us goernment reports are (often) low value... inferior... goods.
but you wouldn't believe the millions they cost.
while i continue to throw money at university because they refuse to acknowledge the work i do or any of the qualifications i've got.
it's very f*ck*d up.
what a waste of a life.
and of course it's not just me... there are people here...
how do we get out???
Posted by ert on October 24, 2018, at 12:30:32
In reply to Re: This website is full of copyright infringements, posted by alexandra_k on October 24, 2018, at 7:34:05
The medical data is stored in encrypted servers in the basement of the hospitals. And when they get off grid, huge diesel motors will turn on so that they work. this is not facebook. But obviously as I have found out, medical data is not everywhere equally defined. It seems for me that individuals are less well protected in the US than in continental Europe.
If you studied law after your psychology degree, dear Alexandra, you could apply at the government and then generate a lot of expensive government reports and you knew a lot of the particularities of the law system in nz. That is an advantage since then you have a protected niche.
Posted by ert on October 24, 2018, at 12:50:53
In reply to Re: This website is full of copyright infringements, posted by ert on October 24, 2018, at 12:30:32
> The medical data is stored in encrypted servers in the basement of the hospitals. And when they get off grid, huge diesel motors will turn on so that they work. this is not facebook. But obviously as I have found out, medical data is not everywhere equally defined. It seems for me that individuals are less well protected in the US than in continental Europe.
> If you studied law after your psychology degree, dear Alexandra, you could apply at the government and then generate a lot of expensive government reports and you knew a lot of the particularities of the law system in nz. That is an advantage since then you have a protected niche.
>the Australians could take your job away and due to the specificity you won't have much choice.
Posted by alexandra_k on October 24, 2018, at 19:59:25
In reply to Re: This website is full of copyright infringements, posted by ert on October 24, 2018, at 12:30:32
> The medical data is stored in encrypted servers in the basement of the hospitals.
It really should be, shouldn't it. It should be a internal network (intra-net) and not an inter-net.
This isn't the case for New Zealanders, though. We have medical records being entered into foreign designed software systems and information being transmitted by way of foreign satellites to be stored off shore on cloud servers. Don't get me wrong, we don't have the capacity to do otherwise. But I guess I've come to see how much of New Zealand is being run by the worst of the worst of the foreign business cowboys taking advantage of our laws being under-developed in order to get away with sh*t nobody would tolerate from them, back home.
I guess New Zealand has always been a refuge for that.
I just got my home power bill. Over $130 for one week of electricity in the spring time. Running 2 electric radiators on thermostat, lights, hot water, warm washing machine washes. Apparently there was a gas pipeline leak in the North Island and somehow... I get to pay for it. Because it means demand for electricity (primarily from business) has gone up and so my spot prices have skyrocketed. I do understand it's about distribution of risk... But when bad things happen to me who helps mitigate that for me?
If I had have done law...
Law degrees are very different here from the US. They are undergraduate degrees where you do a first year which has 2 law papers and you make up the rest of the year with any other papers you like. You then apply to second year law (to continue the law degree) on the basis of your GPA from your first year and they decide the places by way of some weighting system where the 2 law papers count for double, or something.
Law isn't very competitive. I am fairly sure that most people who work a bit during their first year get to continue, or, worst case, they only need do one more year of whatever other degree before achieving high enough GPA to transfer in to law. Though that might be changing... The idea seems to be to market that it's easy and then 'haha fooled you, you now need to throw another year's worth of money at the university to get to do what you wanted to do'. Generally... There isn't anything to properly limit the number of law students there are. Medicine is the only program that is properly limited because the internship year requires medical students to actually spend a bunch of time in the hospitals and though we pack them tighter and tighter and tighter so we can parade more and more and more of them into our public hospitals (or into northland GP offices) there is only so tightly we can do that in a country of 4 million people.
This means that there are very very very very very high rates of unemployed lawyers in New Zealand. And... Apparently... You really don't learn much of anything at all useful during the actual law degree. When you are near the end of completion you need to register with something or other in order to get a placement with a firm, or whatever. And a whole heap of people simply miss out. You gotta pay a fortune for them to do the psychology testing and so on... Seems to me that that's the real admission test for law. The degree... Trying to bait me with the degree... Was a way of trying to distract an infant by dancing something shiny in front of them...
I think there is something... Corrupt... About government reports being justification / documentation for things that have already been decided. I think there is something corrupt about trying to justify them on justifiable grounds instead of (at that point) undertaking an actual historical inquiry as to the real reason the decisoins were made.
No amount of legal training will have me believe / do otherwise.
I understand that as a criminal defense lawyer your job is to defend your client to the best of your ability. If there is a technicality that you find then it is your job to utilise that technicalitly (which will hopefully in the longer term result in a shoring up of that technicality). sometimes it's about enforcing proper police conduct and the like since the police often act like laws unto themselves, here, which puts many trial in jepordy and makes convictions fairly unlikely. Becuase our prisons are too full, already... Becuase people don't have lives worth living outside the prisons often enough. No meaningful way of life. Highest suicide rates in the world and horrific traffic deaths from a supposedly developed country.
> It seems for me that individuals are less well protected in the US than in continental Europe.
That is intersting and it may well be true.
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