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Posted by SLS on December 4, 2014, at 1:17:56
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http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20141012/msgs/1073668.html
Posted by SLS on November 21, 2014, at 23:26:23
In reply to Re: Looks like Babble has died » happyflower123, posted by Phillipa on November 18, 2014, at 9:58:11
> I'm usually the one who has posted this in the past and then others come out and seem to take offense. I so agree with you. Where did everyone go? PhilllipaPerhaps they left to escape from the pathology of the Administration forum; a pathology that affects the entire website. That pathology might even dissuade potential members from joining the community. The behaviors and de facto posting policies of the owner / moderator are on trial. There will be no winners unless he comes to emulate the persona who founded Psycho-Babble 15 years ago or discovers some new incarnation of himself that works to enhance mental health.
Who would want to register at a mental health website whose owner spends each day chatting about antisemitism and defending the legalities of his posting behaviors towards its members? Nostalgic reminiscing of a much earlier time persists because the current dynamics have no potential of producing such memories in the future.
I remain here because I have no place else to go.
- Scott
Posted by alexandra_k on December 4, 2014, at 1:50:46
In reply to The pathology of the Administration forum., posted by SLS on December 4, 2014, at 1:17:56
aw.
have you ever read the archives from all the way back... before the consumers even started posting?
i don't know that bob envisaged things turning out quite the way that they did...
i do wonder sometimes if he is sick of the site... if he doesn't really want to still have it... but that he feels some kind of duty to us to keep things here... for people who don't have anyplace else to go, yeah.
i think... people typically join because of the supportive posts that posters post to one another. that that is something that bob has always been keen on... that posters join because of that. not because of him.
Posted by Lou Pilder on December 4, 2014, at 5:37:56
In reply to The pathology of the Administration forum., posted by SLS on December 4, 2014, at 1:17:56
> Redirect from Social:
>
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20141012/msgs/1073668.html
>
> Posted by SLS on November 21, 2014, at 23:26:23
>
> In reply to Re: Looks like Babble has died » happyflower123, posted by Phillipa on November 18, 2014, at 9:58:11
>
>
> > I'm usually the one who has posted this in the past and then others come out and seem to take offense. I so agree with you. Where did everyone go? Philllipa
>
> Perhaps they left to escape from the pathology of the Administration forum; a pathology that affects the entire website. That pathology might even dissuade potential members from joining the community. The behaviors and de facto posting policies of the owner / moderator are on trial. There will be no winners unless he comes to emulate the persona who founded Psycho-Babble 15 years ago or discovers some new incarnation of himself that works to enhance mental health.
>
> Who would want to register at a mental health website whose owner spends each day chatting about antisemitism and defending the legalities of his posting behaviors towards its members? Nostalgic reminiscing of a much earlier time persists because the current dynamics have no potential of producing such memories in the future.
>
> I remain here because I have no place else to go.
>
>
> - Scott
>
Friends,
It is written here what could IMHO be misunderstood by different subsets of readers. This is because the poster uses words like {perhaps} and {might}and {who would want to} and {have no}, which have different ideas to different readers minds in the context of the post.
One aspect of the context of the post could be seen as revolving around my discussion with Mr. Hsiung concerning anti-Semitism being allowed to be seen as supportive where the statements are originally posted as in,[...Who would want to register at a mental health website whose owner spends each day chatting about anti-Semitism and defending the legalities of his posting behaviors towards its members?...].
Let us look at one of the defenses that Mr. Hsiung posts here to allow anti-Semitism to be seen as supportive here and that not only can it be seen as being supportive , but by leaving anti-Semitic statements unsanctioned, it will be good for this community as a whole.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140304/msgs/1070410.html
Now looking at the rationale posted here by Mr. Hsiung for leaving statements unsanctioned that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings, or put down or accuse Jews, or lead a Jew to feel that their faith is being put down, or stigmatize Jews, or use Jews as scapegoats, or allow defamation toward me to be seen as supportive where those statements are originally posted, that rationale states that in Mr. Hsiung's thinking, it will be good for this community as a whole for those statements to be seen as supportive where they are originally posted. That has been said before by others that allowed hatred toward the Jews to be promulgated in a community. That rationale has also been used to justify slavery and infanticide and genocide and segregation and discrimination. It is nothing new, but an old way to sway people to accept hatred toward the Jews to be acceptable on the grounds that sometime in the future , the community will be improved by allowing anti-Semitism to be seen as supportive. This is not seen at the moment, for the use of {will be} involves acceptance of what could happen in the future, so those that use this argument to allow hatred toward the Jews to be seen as supportive, also say to the members to {trust me}, and do get people to do so. They could even put their faith in that person saying to trust them and consider that person to be some type of salvation to them, as history records. But it is much more than that.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on December 4, 2014, at 6:27:09
In reply to Lou's response-truzme » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on December 4, 2014, at 5:37:56
> > Redirect from Social:
> >
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20141012/msgs/1073668.html
> >
> > Posted by SLS on November 21, 2014, at 23:26:23
> >
> > In reply to Re: Looks like Babble has died » happyflower123, posted by Phillipa on November 18, 2014, at 9:58:11
> >
> >
> > > I'm usually the one who has posted this in the past and then others come out and seem to take offense. I so agree with you. Where did everyone go? Philllipa
> >
> > Perhaps they left to escape from the pathology of the Administration forum; a pathology that affects the entire website. That pathology might even dissuade potential members from joining the community. The behaviors and de facto posting policies of the owner / moderator are on trial. There will be no winners unless he comes to emulate the persona who founded Psycho-Babble 15 years ago or discovers some new incarnation of himself that works to enhance mental health.
> >
> > Who would want to register at a mental health website whose owner spends each day chatting about antisemitism and defending the legalities of his posting behaviors towards its members? Nostalgic reminiscing of a much earlier time persists because the current dynamics have no potential of producing such memories in the future.
> >
> > I remain here because I have no place else to go.
> >
> >
> > - Scott
> >
> Friends,
> It is written here what could IMHO be misunderstood by different subsets of readers. This is because the poster uses words like {perhaps} and {might}and {who would want to} and {have no}, which have different ideas to different readers minds in the context of the post.
> One aspect of the context of the post could be seen as revolving around my discussion with Mr. Hsiung concerning anti-Semitism being allowed to be seen as supportive where the statements are originally posted as in,[...Who would want to register at a mental health website whose owner spends each day chatting about anti-Semitism and defending the legalities of his posting behaviors towards its members?...].
> Let us look at one of the defenses that Mr. Hsiung posts here to allow anti-Semitism to be seen as supportive here and that not only can it be seen as being supportive , but by leaving anti-Semitic statements unsanctioned, it will be good for this community as a whole.
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140304/msgs/1070410.html
> Now looking at the rationale posted here by Mr. Hsiung for leaving statements unsanctioned that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings, or put down or accuse Jews, or lead a Jew to feel that their faith is being put down, or stigmatize Jews, or use Jews as scapegoats, or allow defamation toward me to be seen as supportive where those statements are originally posted, that rationale states that in Mr. Hsiung's thinking, it will be good for this community as a whole for those statements to be seen as supportive where they are originally posted. That has been said before by others that allowed hatred toward the Jews to be promulgated in a community. That rationale has also been used to justify slavery and infanticide and genocide and segregation and discrimination. It is nothing new, but an old way to sway people to accept hatred toward the Jews to be acceptable on the grounds that sometime in the future , the community will be improved by allowing anti-Semitism to be seen as supportive. This is not seen at the moment, for the use of {will be} involves acceptance of what could happen in the future, so those that use this argument to allow hatred toward the Jews to be seen as supportive, also say to the members to {trust me}, and do get people to do so. They could even put their faith in that person saying to trust them and consider that person to be some type of salvation to them, as history records. But it is much more than that.
> Lou
>
Friends,
Now I would like for readers to actuate the following post and examine its contents. To see this post, go to the bottom of this page to the search box and type in:
[ admin, 1041599 ]
Click on the post that has the 1041599 in the colored strip URL, not in the subject line.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on December 4, 2014, at 6:36:05
In reply to Lou's response-, posted by Lou Pilder on December 4, 2014, at 6:27:09
> > > Redirect from Social:
> > >
> > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20141012/msgs/1073668.html
> > >
> > > Posted by SLS on November 21, 2014, at 23:26:23
> > >
> > > In reply to Re: Looks like Babble has died » happyflower123, posted by Phillipa on November 18, 2014, at 9:58:11
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'm usually the one who has posted this in the past and then others come out and seem to take offense. I so agree with you. Where did everyone go? Philllipa
> > >
> > > Perhaps they left to escape from the pathology of the Administration forum; a pathology that affects the entire website. That pathology might even dissuade potential members from joining the community. The behaviors and de facto posting policies of the owner / moderator are on trial. There will be no winners unless he comes to emulate the persona who founded Psycho-Babble 15 years ago or discovers some new incarnation of himself that works to enhance mental health.
> > >
> > > Who would want to register at a mental health website whose owner spends each day chatting about antisemitism and defending the legalities of his posting behaviors towards its members? Nostalgic reminiscing of a much earlier time persists because the current dynamics have no potential of producing such memories in the future.
> > >
> > > I remain here because I have no place else to go.
> > >
> > >
> > > - Scott
> > >
> > Friends,
> > It is written here what could IMHO be misunderstood by different subsets of readers. This is because the poster uses words like {perhaps} and {might}and {who would want to} and {have no}, which have different ideas to different readers minds in the context of the post.
> > One aspect of the context of the post could be seen as revolving around my discussion with Mr. Hsiung concerning anti-Semitism being allowed to be seen as supportive where the statements are originally posted as in,[...Who would want to register at a mental health website whose owner spends each day chatting about anti-Semitism and defending the legalities of his posting behaviors towards its members?...].
> > Let us look at one of the defenses that Mr. Hsiung posts here to allow anti-Semitism to be seen as supportive here and that not only can it be seen as being supportive , but by leaving anti-Semitic statements unsanctioned, it will be good for this community as a whole.
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140304/msgs/1070410.html
> > Now looking at the rationale posted here by Mr. Hsiung for leaving statements unsanctioned that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings, or put down or accuse Jews, or lead a Jew to feel that their faith is being put down, or stigmatize Jews, or use Jews as scapegoats, or allow defamation toward me to be seen as supportive where those statements are originally posted, that rationale states that in Mr. Hsiung's thinking, it will be good for this community as a whole for those statements to be seen as supportive where they are originally posted. That has been said before by others that allowed hatred toward the Jews to be promulgated in a community. That rationale has also been used to justify slavery and infanticide and genocide and segregation and discrimination. It is nothing new, but an old way to sway people to accept hatred toward the Jews to be acceptable on the grounds that sometime in the future , the community will be improved by allowing anti-Semitism to be seen as supportive. This is not seen at the moment, for the use of {will be} involves acceptance of what could happen in the future, so those that use this argument to allow hatred toward the Jews to be seen as supportive, also say to the members to {trust me}, and do get people to do so. They could even put their faith in that person saying to trust them and consider that person to be some type of salvation to them, as history records. But it is much more than that.
> > Lou
> >
> Friends,
> Now I would like for readers to actuate the following post and examine its contents. To see this post, go to the bottom of this page to the search box and type in:
> [ admin, 1041599 ]
> Click on the post that has the 1041599 in the colored strip URL, not in the subject line.
> Lou
>
Frinds,
When you actuate the requested post by me, in that post that comes up, there is an offered link at the beginning. The correction is that to see that post, go to the search box again and type in:
[ faith, 428781 ]
look for the 428781 in the colored strip URL, not the subject line
Lou
Posted by Phillipa on December 4, 2014, at 8:59:58
In reply to Lou's response-truzme » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on December 4, 2014, at 5:37:56
Lou all people interpret words differently. So please don't use something as unimportant as a little word to justify you posting that we will either die, commit suicide. I don't hate Jews and I don not refer to the Jewish Faith as Jews. There are all branches of religion Christians, Jewish Faith, Buddhist Faith, Spiritualists, Atheists, Baptists. The list goes on and on. So personally I don't really come here anymore. Get the weather on the google bar on usually the meds boards. Phillipa
Posted by Lou Pilder on December 4, 2014, at 9:08:25
In reply to Re: The pathology of the Administration forum., posted by alexandra_k on December 4, 2014, at 1:50:46
> aw.
>
> have you ever read the archives from all the way back... before the consumers even started posting?
>
> i don't know that bob envisaged things turning out quite the way that they did...
>
> i do wonder sometimes if he is sick of the site... if he doesn't really want to still have it... but that he feels some kind of duty to us to keep things here... for people who don't have anyplace else to go, yeah.
>
> i think... people typically join because of the supportive posts that posters post to one another. that that is something that bob has always been keen on... that posters join because of that. not because of him.
>
> Alexandra_k,
You wrote,[...people..join because of the supportive posts...].
I am unsure as to what you want readers to think. If you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
True or False:
A. People can know if a post is supportive or not.
B. The way that readers can know if a post is supportive or not is if the post is sanctioned or not.
C. The rule here is that being supportive takes precedence and that posters are to be civil at all times. This can mean to a subset of readers that if a statement in a post is not sanctioned, then it is considered to be civil and supportive here.
D. If a reader sees a statement that could put down the faith of another and it is not sanctioned, they could think that it is supportive and civil.
E. If an anti-Semitic statement is unsanctioned, a subset of readers could think that anti-Semitism is supportive and leave on that basis or if they are considering enrolling, to not do so as that they could think that the site is an anti-Semitic site.
Lou
>
>
Posted by Lou Pilder on December 4, 2014, at 9:13:30
In reply to Re: Lou's response-truzme » Lou Pilder, posted by Phillipa on December 4, 2014, at 8:59:58
> Lou all people interpret words differently. So please don't use something as unimportant as a little word to justify you posting that we will either die, commit suicide. I don't hate Jews and I don not refer to the Jewish Faith as Jews. There are all branches of religion Christians, Jewish Faith, Buddhist Faith, Spiritualists, Atheists, Baptists. The list goes on and on. So personally I don't really come here anymore. Get the weather on the google bar on usually the meds boards. Phillipa
Phillipa,
What little word that I have used justifies that one will kill themselves or die?
Lou
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