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Posted by SLS on August 9, 2010, at 19:07:19
I hope that managing Psycho-Babble is still an enjoyable experience for you. I would hate to see this website close down because it has become an unappreciated chore without reward.
- Scott
Posted by Deneb on August 9, 2010, at 19:21:44
In reply to Dr. Bob - Appreciation, posted by SLS on August 9, 2010, at 19:07:19
Dr. Bob, I hope you feel appreciated too!
You're doing really great work!
Posted by 10derHeart on August 9, 2010, at 19:29:06
In reply to Dr. Bob - Appreciation, posted by SLS on August 9, 2010, at 19:07:19
Ditto what Scott said.
(I should have posted something like this myself. Thanks, Scott, for picking up my slack.)
Posted by morgan miller on August 9, 2010, at 22:41:12
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob - Appreciation, posted by 10derHeart on August 9, 2010, at 19:29:06
Why wouldn't he appreciate it? He still gets to use it for research right? He must still find this site interesting. Sure he may not be appreciated at times, but that just comes with the territory.
Scott, do you really have a problem with some people getting upset about certain things? There is no perfect system and sometimes people will get upset or find a problem with something, and they may be justified.
I appreciate this place, but I do think some things could and should be dealt with differently, JMHO.
Morgan
Posted by SLS on August 10, 2010, at 8:23:27
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob - Appreciation, posted by morgan miller on August 9, 2010, at 22:41:12
> Scott, do you really have a problem with some people getting upset about certain things?
Can you be more specific?
- Scott
Posted by morgan miller on August 10, 2010, at 10:10:07
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob - Appreciation » morgan miller, posted by SLS on August 10, 2010, at 8:23:27
Do you think anyone is justified in expressing frustration over Lou's posts? I realize some of the things said were unnecessary and disrespectful, but it appeared to me that any expression of frustration was frowned upon.
Do you think anyone is justified in expressing disagreement over some recent blocks and the lengths of these blocks?
Sorry man, not trying to give you a hard time. I see where you are coming from. Maybe some of us should be a little more appreciative of this site that Dr. Bob has created for us. But like I said before, I don't think he has created this site purely out of unselfishness and altruism. He has an interest in the subject matter on this site and uses it for research. Still, I do understand how it might appear that some are not being appreciative of psycho-babble.
We are all suffering, and some of us deal with things a little better than others. You can't expect people to react perfectly to things being that they are not well. I get on websites where many people are not suffering from depression and anxiety and they still fail to respond maturely and properly at times. I don't know, I just think the standards held here are a bit unrealistic at times. It's as if we can express emotion and frustration over other members, even if we do it in a very constructive and respectful manner. Maybe I'm wrong and my perspective is a bit off. I don't know.
I also think some of the recent lengths of blocks are completely ridiculous. It's as if an irrational angry parent is punishing us. Usually this parent would realize the punishment was a bit extreme and will significantly shorten the sentence.
Morgan
Posted by violette on August 10, 2010, at 12:37:55
In reply to Dr. Bob - Appreciation, posted by SLS on August 9, 2010, at 19:07:19
I thank Dr. Bob for changing his approach in regard to posters about to be blocked.
Posted by morgan miller on August 10, 2010, at 13:31:26
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob - Appreciation, posted by violette on August 10, 2010, at 12:37:55
Sorry, I wasn't aware of the changes made. Sounds like they are good ones.
Posted by SLS on August 10, 2010, at 14:20:34
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob - Appreciation » SLS, posted by morgan miller on August 10, 2010, at 10:10:07
Hi Morgan.
> Do you think anyone is justified in expressing frustration over XXX's posts?
I think people are justified in feeling whatever they feel.
> I realize some of the things said were unnecessary and disrespectful,
I think that this insight is a good start towards understanding the need for the moderation of this website.
> but it appeared to me that any expression of frustration was frowned upon.
I think it depends upon how that frustration is expressed. To do so while maintaining civility as it is practiced here can be a real challenge.
> Do you think anyone is justified in expressing disagreement over some recent blocks and the lengths of these blocks?I am not completely comfortable with the implementation of the posting block system on Psycho-Babble. I think it is important to communicate to Dr. Bob your thoughts and feelings regarding the operation of his website. Expressing disagreement is important. However, I don't think it is unreasonable that one should address the doctor in a manner that they would wish to be addressed themselves.
> Still, I do understand how it might appear that some are not being appreciative of psycho-babble.
Dr. Bob is human, after all. Every man has his "breaking point". At times, it appears that the majority of posts involving the doctor are adversarial and vehemently critical of him. I don't know how resilient I would be to such an onslaught. Actually, it is an interesting study in sociology to witness the interaction occurring between Dr. Bob and his posting community.
> We are all suffering, and some of us deal with things a little better than others.
Of course. However, physical violence is not a civil way of dealing with things. Somewhere, a line must be drawn. I'm glad that I am not to be the artist.
> You can't expect people to react perfectly to things being that they are not well.
What about the party on the receiving end of such imperfect reactions? Are they less unwell and any less in need of protection?
> I get on websites where many people are not suffering from depression and anxiety and they still fail to respond maturely and properly at times.
That people on Psycho-Babble might be more vulnerable to hurt resulting from such acts makes it that much more critical that they be protected. Should the protection of the one be superceded by the desires of the majority?
> I don't know, I just think the standards held here are a bit unrealistic at times.
There is a pretty steep learning curve for communicating on Psycho-Babble.
> It's as if we can express emotion and frustration over other members, even if we do it in a very constructive and respectful manner.
Who is to judge such things?
> Maybe I'm wrong and my perspective is a bit off.
No. We just have some disagreement.
> I don't know.
Nor do I.
> I also think some of the recent lengths of blocks are completely ridiculous.
Oh, they can get much worse. 52 weeks. That is quite a long time. Often, it does not seem that the punishment is proportional to the infraction. However, I do not think think that it is unreasonable to take recidivism into consideration when determining the length of blocks.
> It's as if an irrational angry parent is punishing us. Usually this parent would realize the punishment was a bit extreme and will significantly shorten the sentence.
I won't attempt to address the rationality of the behaviors of Dr. Bob . I don't feel that I am qualified to do so.
- Scott
Posted by morgan miller on August 10, 2010, at 15:48:52
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob - Appreciation » morgan miller, posted by SLS on August 10, 2010, at 14:20:34
You make many good points.
I probably should not be so quick to judge Dr. Bob, after all, he kind of is the "parent" here and he is only human like the rest of us. I guess I just get a bit frustrated and don't see eye to eye with some things he does. I have always been very vocal and quick to speak out against authority when I felt like authority was at all misused or abused. I have never taken people getting punished in ways that I saw unfair very well. It has something to do with my own anger and frustration over my own life. I also think when I am feeling well I have more patience and am able to take a step back and think about something before I react. I still have some work to do in therapy, I'm am far from feeling comfortable or content or growing into the person I want to be.
Wasn't trying to give you a hard time Scott, I think you understand that. I just wanted to hear your thoughts on some things. Thanks for getting back to me and being very concise and to the point.
Morgan
Posted by morgan miller on August 10, 2010, at 15:51:13
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob - Appreciation, posted by morgan miller on August 10, 2010, at 15:48:52
I also realize that Dr. Bob has a life and a career outside of Psycho-Babble. I imagine it must be difficult to run this site in a way that it is fair and consistent. I can appreciate that for sure.
Morgan
Posted by SLS on August 11, 2010, at 6:11:14
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob - Appreciation, posted by morgan miller on August 10, 2010, at 15:51:13
> I also realize that Dr. Bob has a life and a career outside of Psycho-Babble. I imagine it must be difficult to run this site in a way that it is fair and consistent. I can appreciate that for sure.
Perhaps the operation of this website is still an ongoing experiment. If so, it still needs to be attended to closely. When things don't work, I would like to see those things abandoned. However, I cannot now think of any instances of this occurring. My memory is not so good, though. Generally, I would say that the doctor has a strong affinity for the ideas he embraces, even if those ideas come from someone else.
- Scott
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 12, 2010, at 3:52:37
In reply to Dr. Bob - Appreciation, posted by SLS on August 9, 2010, at 19:07:19
Posted by Conundrum on November 7, 2010, at 23:09:39
In reply to Dr. Bob - Appreciation, posted by SLS on August 9, 2010, at 19:07:19
> I hope that managing Psycho-Babble is still an enjoyable experience for you. I would hate to see this website close down because it has become an unappreciated chore without reward.
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> - ScottI second these thoughts.
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