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Posted by Dr. Bob on August 8, 2010, at 22:11:44
In reply to Re: Lessons from Bob » sigismund, posted by fayeroe on August 6, 2010, at 18:02:40
> everyone knows the intent of the people they know at all, at least I think they do, I think I do. So what's it all for?
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> sigismundNot everyone knows everyone else. People can be more clear about their intent if they use I-statements. Civility is for an atmosphere conducive to support and education.
> How about those of us who see your request as a personal attack against Fayeroe? Or as an attempt to manipulate us as posters? I would like to defend her against such an attack, but I don't think that bowing to your request would be the moral solution.
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> PartlyCloudy> > A blind man got on at one station, people helped him to his seat, after a few stops he pulled what looked like a fob watch out of his pocket and did something. At the next stop he walked to the door and there was a rail official to help him off. That is infrastructure.
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> It would never happen here.
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> fayeroeIf the conductor asks other passengers to help someone on or off, is that an attempt to manipulate them? I'm not saying she was blind, but fayeroe just got off the train. Was it her stop?
Bob
Posted by BayLeaf on August 8, 2010, at 23:52:33
In reply to Re: Lessons from Bob, posted by Dr. Bob on August 8, 2010, at 22:11:44
WTH - Faye apologized above, so you or someone had to go all the way back to 8/2 to find another way to toss her? Did she have a chance to reword or apologize for that one?
How far back do you go scanning for sins? is there a set limit?
Bob, you frequently bring up transference issues - but you never discuss counter-transference. I have to wonder how you feel about Faye's ever vigilant presence here. Do you think it impacts your ability to be fair to her?
Posted by sigismund on August 9, 2010, at 3:41:51
In reply to Re: Lessons from Bob » Dr. Bob, posted by BayLeaf on August 8, 2010, at 23:52:33
>> > A blind man got on at one station, people helped him to his seat, after a few stops he pulled what looked like a fob watch out of his pocket and did something. At the next stop he walked to the door and there was a rail official to help him off. That is infrastructure.
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>> It would never happen here.
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>> fayeroe>If the conductor asks other passengers to help someone on or off, is that an attempt to manipulate them? I'm not saying she was blind, but fayeroe just got off the train. Was it her stop?
Japanese trains do not have conductors, surprisingly perhaps. I don't know how that worked, but evidently because the Japanese have not abandoned the public, unlike the governments of the Anglosphere.
Like Pat said, that wouldn't happen here or with you.I think it was Pat's stop. Her sense of right and wrong precluded apology.
Didn't she say something like that? I'd hate to misrepresent her.
Posted by sigismund on August 9, 2010, at 3:44:41
In reply to Re: Lessons from Bob » Dr. Bob, posted by BayLeaf on August 8, 2010, at 23:52:33
>How far back do you go scanning for sins? is there a set limit?
Give them a PBC, then a little block, then up and up, employing the formula.
Scientific value free easy peasy.
Posted by violette on August 9, 2010, at 9:13:49
In reply to Re: Lessons from Bob » Dr. Bob, posted by BayLeaf on August 8, 2010, at 23:52:33
Posted by Phillipa on August 9, 2010, at 12:33:44
In reply to I've had similar thoughts about CT.... (nm) » BayLeaf, posted by violette on August 9, 2010, at 9:13:49
Someone wrote me that Manic is blocked can't find it. If Fayroe also blocked can't find that either. Well that's what I get for going to bed at 3am and getting up at ll am. We work at night but still it's getting ridiculous. I have no idea what's going on around here anymore. Could someone fill me in? Thanks Phillipa
Posted by BayLeaf on August 9, 2010, at 12:40:43
In reply to Re: I've had similar thoughts about CT...., posted by Phillipa on August 9, 2010, at 12:33:44
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20100806/msgs/957975.html
Posted by BayLeaf on August 9, 2010, at 12:45:05
In reply to Re: I've had similar thoughts about CT...., posted by Phillipa on August 9, 2010, at 12:33:44
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20100731/msgs/957938.html
Posted by Phillipa on August 9, 2010, at 17:02:50
In reply to Fayeroe's block is here » Phillipa, posted by BayLeaf on August 9, 2010, at 12:40:43
Bayleaf thanks I don't read admin much hence why missed Fayeroe's block. Manics I did find. Seems more blocked posters than posters. No wonder no posts on babble. Thanks for taking the time. Phillipa
Posted by Justherself54 on August 9, 2010, at 17:34:47
In reply to Re: Lessons from Bob, posted by Dr. Bob on August 8, 2010, at 22:11:44
I don't think Manic or Bulldog are coming back :(
Posted by 10derHeart on August 9, 2010, at 19:27:09
In reply to Re: Fayeroe's block is here » BayLeaf, posted by Phillipa on August 9, 2010, at 17:02:50
>>Seems more blocked posters than posters.
Don't think the math will add up, actually. We just recall blocks (and our feelings/any controversy around them) more, it seems.
>No wonder no posts on babble.
Hmm...I though I read a bunch of posts today.
Just sayin'
Babble still has many non-blocked posters. We could always use more, though, for sure. Wish I could help by posting more now, but I am unable for several reasons. Hope it changes soon.
Posted by morgan miller on August 9, 2010, at 22:35:14
In reply to Re: Lessons from Bob, posted by Justherself54 on August 9, 2010, at 17:34:47
> I don't think Manic or Bulldog are coming back :(
>I don't think they want to be part of something where someone can just come on and offend other people just because there was no personal attack, yet they cannot express why they were offended and how they feel. This is not a free speech forum. It's even hard to say things in the proper manner. You could say something the perfect way, in a non-attacking and constructive manner, and you still might get blocked for it. Can you blame them for not wanting to come back to a place where they have to act like a vulcan and never express getting upset about something?
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 12, 2010, at 3:43:57
In reply to Re: Lessons from Bob, posted by morgan miller on August 9, 2010, at 22:35:14
> WTH - Faye apologized above, so you or someone had to go all the way back to 8/2 to find another way to toss her? Did she have a chance to reword or apologize for that one?
She apologized for what I blocked her for? If so, that was my mistake, and I'm very sorry.
Her post: August 2, 2010, at 1:30:47. My block: August 8, 2010, at 21:57:45. Time to reword or apologize: almost a week.
> How far back do you go scanning for sins? is there a set limit?
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> Bob, you frequently bring up transference issues - but you never discuss counter-transference. I have to wonder how you feel about Faye's ever vigilant presence here. Do you think it impacts your ability to be fair to her?
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> BayLeaf> Give them a PBC, then a little block, then up and up, employing the formula.
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> Scientific value free easy peasy.
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> sigismundI go back to the last block, whenever it was. But the further back I go, the shorter the current block becomes. So block length doesn't always go up and up.
I appreciate vigilance, it keeps me honest, and from missing things. I don't appreciate incivility.
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> > fayeroe just got off the train. Was it her stop?
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> Japanese trains do not have conductors, surprisingly perhaps. I don't know how that worked, but evidently because the Japanese have not abandoned the publicSorry, I'm not following you. Japanese trains don't have conductors because the Japanese haven't abandoned the public?
> I think it was Pat's stop.
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> sigismundAnd only one poster wished she would've stayed on? I think only one poster said so, anyway.
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> Seems more blocked posters than posters. No wonder no posts on babble.
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> PhillipaIt's no wonder if there's more incivility than support. People might expect a faceful of cat.
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> I don't think they want to be part of something where someone can just come on and offend other people just because there was no personal attack, yet they cannot express why they were offended and how they feel. This is not a free speech forum. It's even hard to say things in the proper manner.
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> morgan millerYes, freedom of speech is limited here. What feelings did Manic and Bulldog express?
Some people may find it hard to say things in a civil manner. If they're interested in learning how to do that, others would support them. But if they do the same thing over and over again, they should expect the same results.
Bob
Posted by sigismund on August 15, 2010, at 2:19:30
In reply to Re: Lessons from Bob, posted by Dr. Bob on August 12, 2010, at 3:43:57
>Sorry, I'm not following you. Japanese trains don't have conductors because the Japanese haven't abandoned the public?
Pretty much. Things like public transport, schools, hospitals, infrastructure, taxes.
>It's no wonder if there's more incivility than support. People might expect a faceful of cat.Whenever you talk about cats now, I think of Pat, and wonder if you were thinking of her too.
I don't know if others feel the same?There's less playfulness, certainly?
Is play support?
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