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Posted by LostBoyinNCBecksDark on October 19, 2007, at 19:50:05
TRT and sleep apnea treatments are hardly "alternative" and are documented as helping men with mood disorders. I dont understand why this string was moved to alternative.
Eric
Posted by LostBoyinNCBecksDark on October 19, 2007, at 19:51:03
In reply to String was moved to wrong location, posted by LostBoyinNCBecksDark on October 19, 2007, at 19:50:05
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20070923/msgs/789228.html
Posted by LostBoyinNCBecksDark on October 19, 2007, at 19:56:29
In reply to Re: String was moved to wrong location, posted by LostBoyinNCBecksDark on October 19, 2007, at 19:51:03
CPAP is FDA approved for treatment of obstructive sleep apnea. This is hardly an "alternative" form of medicine. Androgel, Testim, Striant and the various patches are FDA approved for Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT) in males with hypogonadism. This is not "alternative" medicine!
Alternative medicine are OTC herbs and vitamins, acupuncture, yoga, magnets...stuff like that.
This post was moved to the wrong location.
Eric
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 20, 2007, at 0:15:39
In reply to String was moved to wrong location, posted by LostBoyinNCBecksDark on October 19, 2007, at 19:50:05
> TRT and sleep apnea treatments are hardly "alternative" and are documented as helping men with mood disorders. I dont understand why this string was moved to alternative.
That may have been documented, but I still don't consider anabolic steroids a "conventional" treatment for depression, at least not yet...
Bob
Posted by LostBoyinNCBecksDark on October 20, 2007, at 0:54:00
In reply to Re: String was moved, posted by Dr. Bob on October 20, 2007, at 0:15:39
> > TRT and sleep apnea treatments are hardly "alternative" and are documented as helping men with mood disorders. I dont understand why this string was moved to alternative.
>
> That may have been documented, but I still don't consider anabolic steroids a "conventional" treatment for depression, at least not yet...
>
> BobTestosterone isnt FDA approved for male depression, but there are medline studies of its usage to treat hypogonadal depressed men. And all of the TRT websites mention depression, fatigue, irritability as symptoms of low testosterone.
Taken directly off the Testim website:
http://www.testim.com/low_testosterone_symptoms.asp
"Men with low testosterone may experience symptoms such as fatigue or low energy, a decrease in sex drive and sexual function, and increased irritability or depression. 1"
Off the Androgel website:
http://www.androgel.com/about_symptoms.html
"Signs and symptoms of Low T may include:
* Fatigue or loss of energy
* Low sex drive (reduced desire to be intimate)
* Sexual dysfunction (weak erections, failure to get erections)
* Depressed mood
* Decreased sense of well-being
* Increased body fat
* Loss of muscle mass
* Decreased bone strength"Note the company that makes Androgel specifically claims "fatigue or loss of energy" and "depressed mood" is a symptom of low testosterone.
I had a hematologist tell me specifically one time a few years back "low testosterone is why you have low energy," despite being on Zoloft at the time.
These transdermal and buccal testosterone medications were developed specifically for TRT..and not for "anabolic steroid" abuse and athletic performance enhancement.
Athletes almost always opt for the hardcore injectable testosterone. TRT guys normally opt for hardcore injectable testosterone only when transdermal TRT fails to boost testosterone levels.
While not FDA approved for male depression, testosterone is already mainstream in Internal medicine, urology and endocrinology.
Eric
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 20, 2007, at 20:40:36
In reply to Re: String was moved, posted by LostBoyinNCBecksDark on October 20, 2007, at 0:54:00
> there are medline studies of its usage to treat hypogonadal depressed men.
It's fine if you want to post that depressed mood can be a symptom of hypogonadism and hypogonadism can be treated with testosterone...
Bob
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