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Posted by Dinah on March 31, 2006, at 20:44:44
In reply to JYL, posted by sleepygirl on March 31, 2006, at 20:39:18
I'm already on record for saying that I was in favor of deleting it.
For whatever good that might do.
Posted by justyourlaugh on March 31, 2006, at 20:57:14
In reply to Re: Is this helping or hurting JYL? » special_k, posted by Dinah on March 31, 2006, at 20:23:40
never to post or read this site again..
1. i care and respect everyone here and everyone who reads..you guys are all i have.
2. i never asked for rules to be broken..just inforced in faq.
3. dr's ace was trumped..i emailed him first to delete..he stated it was not "inappropiate" enough..this was before the post was responded too..
if i said to the dr what was said to me, would i be told if i should take a right or left at steels for the babble party?..oh yah..no left turns any more..
thank you for the support..your words
saved me (trigger trigger trigger).please turn your support over to the deputies..
help them improve your site.
best of peace.
best of life.
fondly(love you jan)
sj
Posted by Dinah on March 31, 2006, at 21:04:07
In reply to i promised myself.., posted by justyourlaugh on March 31, 2006, at 20:57:14
Posted by wildcard11 on March 31, 2006, at 21:06:44
In reply to I'm so sorry (nm) » justyourlaugh, posted by Dinah on March 31, 2006, at 21:04:07
i know you're hurting and i wish i could take it away...(((((((jyl))))))) stay strong!
Posted by special_k on March 31, 2006, at 21:11:08
In reply to Re: Is this helping or hurting JYL? » special_k, posted by Dinah on March 31, 2006, at 20:23:40
> And I say poor Dr. Bob because I wouldn't want his role here for anything.mmm. in my better moments i agree...
but still...
i think he should have given auntiemel her head in this instant...
and i think it would be helpful to point out the circumstances under which 'leniency' might come into things (ie in larry's case)
is that going to be a relevant precedent for other cases?
and i'm still a bit pissed about not telling people before posting about the competition thing...
mostly...
because it is reminding me of something else he did...
and he was like 'sorry i didn't mean for you to find out in that way'
and i remember thinking... i wonder... or i wonder if it just never occured to him at all...
and i'm just wondering whether he 'forgot' to tell people or whether it just never occured to him at all...
and i guess it just reminds me that it isn't so safe... that he isn't so careful about people's feelings... probably because he doesn't understand...
and it isn't supposed to be about this sh*t anyway...
and i bet he is just dying for us to get sick of him so he can f*ck off and have more independence or whatever
:-(
but then i am in a pretty foul mood today...
:-(
Posted by verne on March 31, 2006, at 21:25:48
In reply to The post to JYL should be DELETED!!!!!, posted by wildcard11 on March 31, 2006, at 10:55:24
I agree. There's something almost sadistic about letting the post stand. That kind of personal attack shouldn't be condoned in any shape or form - especially on a "support" site.
The harm even extends to the offending poster - no matter how repentant, he will never live it down. The babble archive holds a grudge - long time.
Perhaps, the lesson is that everything in Babble stays in Babble.
Verne
Posted by madeline on March 31, 2006, at 21:35:51
In reply to i promised myself.., posted by justyourlaugh on March 31, 2006, at 20:57:14
stay safe JYL. And peace right back to you.
If you do decide to drift back to babble, I think we all would be very happy to see you.
This shouldn't be about Dr. Bob. This is about us.
Take care, take good good care.
Maddie.
Posted by ClearSkies on April 1, 2006, at 5:49:43
In reply to i promised myself.., posted by justyourlaugh on March 31, 2006, at 20:57:14
You're all I really have here, you know. A true and honest friend with whom I can confide anything at any time.
I do thank Babble for this gift of friendship.
And I will fight the good fight for making this a safer place, though it is probably tipping at windmills. But every contribution has to make a difference; it just has to. Getting boards to boost our fragile self esteems; suggesting books to read to encourage us to be nicer to each other. I have to do what feels right to me.
Thanks so much for all your gifts of words that has made this a place I want to be at.
ClearSkies
Posted by sabrina0805 on April 3, 2006, at 2:51:41
In reply to Re: i promised myself.. » justyourlaugh, posted by ClearSkies on April 1, 2006, at 5:49:43
I really commend your efforts ClearSkies, in what is clearly not always a very pleasant task. I have babble to thank for many friendships, your included. I hope to never lose those. You are courageous to fight the good fight and I wish you strength. I am sorry that I won't be here much to support you.
You have my love though.
Sabrina
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 5, 2006, at 18:31:36
In reply to Re: restored it » Dr. Bob, posted by muffled on March 29, 2006, at 9:54:47
> This place is only about POLICY??????????
> We are PEOPLE Dr. Bob, hurting PEOPLE. We EXIST.I know, and I'm sorry about that. Still, the idea here is for people who are hurting to receive support from other posters rather than from me.
Bob
Posted by muffled on April 5, 2006, at 19:00:59
In reply to Re: restored it, posted by Dr. Bob on April 5, 2006, at 18:31:36
> > This place is only about POLICY??????????
> > We are PEOPLE Dr. Bob, hurting PEOPLE. We EXIST.
>
> I know, and I'm sorry about that. Still, the idea here is for people who are hurting to receive support from other posters rather than from me.
>
> BobDuh, I'm not talking about support from you. Wouldn't want it from you. What I just wanted was a harmful post deleted. I see no good reason why it cannot be removed.
And your sorry bout what?
I'm not clear on that.
Muffled
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 7, 2006, at 1:58:47
In reply to Re: restored it » Dr. Bob, posted by muffled on April 5, 2006, at 19:00:59
> Duh, I'm not talking about support from you. Wouldn't want it from you. What I just wanted was a harmful post deleted.
But wouldn't the reason to delete it be to support those who are hurting?
Bob
Posted by Dinah on April 7, 2006, at 8:35:21
In reply to Re: restored it, posted by Dr. Bob on April 7, 2006, at 1:58:47
Dr. Bob, perhaps you'd like to rephrase that. I've got the feeling it didn't come out as you intended.
That's something other posters *can't* do. But they did petition you to do it. You would just be enabling their support.
Posted by muffled on April 7, 2006, at 9:49:33
In reply to Re: restored it » Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on April 7, 2006, at 8:35:21
you have the power to delete.
I can't do that.
I wouldn't want support from you, but as administrator you can remove that post as so many have asked.
Your just comming acrosss as either manipulative or a stubborn mule.
Mebbe you a nice guy. But I just not seeing that right now.
Makes me sad.
Muffled
Posted by muffled on April 7, 2006, at 9:50:39
In reply to Re: restored it » Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on April 7, 2006, at 8:35:21
Posted by NikkiT2 on April 7, 2006, at 11:09:44
In reply to Yea Bob, just like Dinah said..., posted by muffled on April 7, 2006, at 9:49:33
I think we can take it that Dr Bob won't be removing this post.
Anyway, I know after a previous similar problem, the offending word was asterixed out.
Could, maybe, that work in this situation? If the nasty words were asterixed out?
Nikki
Posted by wildcard11 on April 7, 2006, at 13:22:04
In reply to Compromise idea.., posted by NikkiT2 on April 7, 2006, at 11:09:44
i agree...Mr.Bob, you deleted the personal info. of the other poster involved that THEY themselves posted so the least you cld. do is xxxx out the neg. words. i think the person it was addressed to will still feel plum AWFUL but it's better than doing NOTHING...whatcha think???
Posted by wildcard11 on April 7, 2006, at 13:22:47
above from Nikki about the post most want deleted....
Posted by muffled on April 7, 2006, at 13:24:58
In reply to yeah » NikkiT2, posted by wildcard11 on April 7, 2006, at 13:22:04
Posted by wildcard11 on April 7, 2006, at 13:28:06
In reply to Don't understand whole thing :-( (nm), posted by muffled on April 7, 2006, at 13:24:58
allow it to keep hurting you. it has hurt enough. hopefully something will be changed b/c of persistence...(((muffled)))
Posted by muffled on April 7, 2006, at 13:40:29
In reply to please don't » muffled, posted by wildcard11 on April 7, 2006, at 13:28:06
Posted by Phillipa on April 7, 2006, at 17:16:08
In reply to Great Idea, posted by wildcard11 on April 7, 2006, at 13:22:47
Well what is it? Love Phillipa
Posted by wildcard11 on April 7, 2006, at 17:29:37
In reply to Re: Great Idea » wildcard11, posted by Phillipa on April 7, 2006, at 17:16:08
the words in the post that most want deleted since Mr.Bob won't delete it....
Posted by special_k on April 7, 2006, at 17:57:53
In reply to To xxx out » Phillipa, posted by wildcard11 on April 7, 2006, at 17:29:37
> the words in the post that most want deleted since Mr.Bob won't delete it....
hmm. and not just that he wouldn't delete it but he actively went and RESTORED it after it was deleted...
i mean... if deleting it is fairly understandably a show of support for jyl then what is restoring it supposed to be?
i think there do need to be some serious changes around here.
Posted by gardenergirl on April 7, 2006, at 23:59:19
In reply to Re: To xxx out, posted by special_k on April 7, 2006, at 17:57:53
> > i mean... if deleting it is fairly understandably a show of support for jyl then what is restoring it supposed to be?
I can only speculate, of course. But my assumption is that Dr. Bob restored it for consistency's sake. There is precedent for leaving similarly upsetting posts on the boards. I speak from personal experience on this one. The post is still there, and I think it might even be pre-asterisking. Not that you could mistake what is said if it's asterisked, anyway...
I'm not saying I agree with restoring JamesK's post. And frankly, I'd love to see the two in particular I'm thinking of deleted, although one is part of an extensive thread, so a marker of some sort would help prevent crazy-making. But I never expected Dr. Bob would agree to delete the post about jyl, judging from his past decisions.
And I suppose that judging where to draw the line on deleting posts which someone feels hurt by would be the subject of great debate. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Just a line that would be very difficult to define.
Yuck, I feel like I just defined a lose-lose situation.
gg
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