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Posted by gardenergirl on July 13, 2005, at 10:01:20
In reply to Re: Differences Between PB and PC, posted by fayeroe on July 13, 2005, at 5:44:23
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> PC shows up in search engines.I don't think individual posts do, do they?
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> I'm a little puzzled, as I asked a question and it's turned into the differences between Babble and PC.Probably because of this: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20050628/msgs/526559.html
gg
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Posted by alexandra_k on July 13, 2005, at 16:15:58
In reply to curious, posted by fayeroe on July 10, 2005, at 13:24:25
Do you think we talk about PC more over here then posters talk about PB over there?
> i read references to Psych Central and wondered what PC had to do with anything here? maybe i'm dense, but i really can't see any reason for people to be worried about us. just curious. perhaps someone can explain it to me.
Posted by alexandra_k on July 13, 2005, at 16:23:45
In reply to Re: sorry to interrupt, but can't help it... » alexandra_k, posted by 10derHeart on July 13, 2005, at 1:07:53
Well... Glad you got a giggle out of it :-)
I really did mean that in the most respectful way possible. I'm not too good at this, sorry about that.I just mean that Doc John seems to be more responsive which sometimes may be perceived as being fairly reactive. Dr Bob seems to be consistently rather careful with what he does say which sometimes can be perceived as being rather aloof / distant.
I just think they kind of go in different directions when under pressure. I've never seen Dr Bob respond out of anger or anything like that - but then he seems to get more distant and cryptic with his remarks instead.
Posted by alexandra_k on July 13, 2005, at 17:47:51
In reply to Re: sorry to interrupt, but can't help it... » 10derHeart, posted by alexandra_k on July 13, 2005, at 16:23:45
...And that that probably goes some way towards explaining the differences between the two boards. Dr Bob does not seem to have a problem with being civil - even when posters turn on him and attack him. So I guess he doesn't think it is such a very big ask. Doc John probably has more sympathy with people getting annoyed / f*cked off / frustrated in response to people who aren't being supportive. More sympathy for people being a bit reactive.
And even the look of the boards...
Emoticons vs a clearer, more readable format.And now I've probably said more than enough...
Posted by Dinah on July 13, 2005, at 18:13:07
In reply to Re: sorry to interrupt, but can't help it..., posted by alexandra_k on July 13, 2005, at 17:47:51
I think that's pretty insightful.
Posted by alexandra_k on July 13, 2005, at 18:22:32
In reply to :-) » alexandra_k, posted by Dinah on July 13, 2005, at 18:13:07
> I think that's pretty insightful.
Thankyou.
I find it pretty amazing how through all the conflict... Despite all the personal attacks etc etc he manages to remain a perfectly civil rock making sensible (though not always perfect) decisions.
:-)
I know people get pissed sometimes and feel frustrated and I have had times where I felt mad 'cause I thought he was rather too stubborn. But then... He does seem to be fairly centered and self-controlled and we don't have to worry about sudden, unexpected changes to the forums. Thats the upside of most things turning into a rather long drawn out process... Is that everyone gets the chance to have a say and you can leave it for a while and come back to it latter and in the interim fairly much nothing has happened :-)
Posted by Dinah on July 13, 2005, at 18:40:41
In reply to Re: :-) » Dinah, posted by alexandra_k on July 13, 2005, at 18:22:32
I always say that people's worst qualities are the flip side of their strengths.
You can't have the best without taking the worst along with it.
Posted by Ron Hill on July 13, 2005, at 19:39:39
In reply to Re: Differences Between PB and PC, posted by fayeroe on July 13, 2005, at 5:13:06
> Ron, you can see who wrote the post and the subject line, before you read it at PC.
Well that shows how little I know about it. Thank you for correcting me, Fayeroe.
-- Ron
Posted by alexandra_k on July 13, 2005, at 19:53:31
In reply to Re: Thanks for the Correction » fayeroe, posted by Ron Hill on July 13, 2005, at 19:39:39
> > Ron, you can see who wrote the post and the subject line, before you read it at PC.
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> Well that shows how little I know about it. Thank you for correcting me, Fayeroe.Though you were right about not being able to see who has contributed to the thread untill you have opened the thread.
Posted by Deneb on July 13, 2005, at 20:09:11
In reply to Re: sorry to interrupt, but can't help it... » 10derHeart, posted by alexandra_k on July 13, 2005, at 16:23:45
>I've never seen Dr Bob respond out of anger or anything like that
Perhaps Dr. Bob has mastered the art of meditation and does not feel anger or negative feelings. :-)
>- but then he seems to get more distant and cryptic with his remarks instead.
Ooooh...cryptic...I like that word. :-)
I think he's more humourous than cryptic...he probably laughs out loud often when reading some of our posts.
Deneb
Posted by Deneb on July 13, 2005, at 20:10:25
In reply to Re: sorry to interrupt, but can't help it... » alexandra_k, posted by Deneb on July 13, 2005, at 20:09:11
Posted by Ron Hill on July 14, 2005, at 1:16:07
In reply to Re: Thanks for the Correction » Ron Hill, posted by alexandra_k on July 13, 2005, at 19:53:31
> Though you were right about not being able to see who has contributed to the thread untill you have opened the thread.
Alex,
That's what I thought. Maybe Fayeroe misunderstood what I was trying to say (sometimes I'm not very clear in my writing). Or maybe you and I are both wrong and Fayeroe knows some trick that we don't know about.
-- Ron
Posted by Ron Hill on July 14, 2005, at 1:31:38
In reply to Re: sorry to interrupt, but can't help it... » alexandra_k, posted by Deneb on July 13, 2005, at 20:09:11
> Perhaps Dr. Bob has mastered the art of meditation and does not feel anger or negative feelings. :-)
> Deneb
Perhaps. Some people, however, appear from the outside to not feel anger or harbor negative feelings, while in reality, they are merely passive aggressive. I'm not suggesting that Dr. Bob is passive aggressive; it would be uncivil to make such an assumption/allegation. I'm just saying that some people have these characteristics.
-- Ron
Posted by gardenergirl on July 14, 2005, at 2:16:37
In reply to Viewing Name and Subject for Each Post in Thread » alexandra_k, posted by Ron Hill on July 14, 2005, at 1:16:07
Perhaps you can see this if you view in threaded option? (Or whatever the other option is..._)
gg
Posted by Ron Hill on July 14, 2005, at 2:53:45
In reply to Re: Viewing Name and Subject for Each Post in Thread » Ron Hill, posted by gardenergirl on July 14, 2005, at 2:16:37
> Perhaps you can see this if you view in threaded option? (Or whatever the other option is..._)
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> ggThanks gg! I'll need to go over there and try to figure out how to activate that option.
-- Ron
Posted by alexandra_k on July 14, 2005, at 9:43:26
In reply to Re: Viewing Name and Subject for Each Post in Thread » gardenergirl, posted by Ron Hill on July 14, 2005, at 2:53:45
>you can see who wrote the post and the subject line, before you read it at PC
I think fayeroe means that you can see the subject header of the thread and who made that initial post before you open the thread.
But that doesn't tell you who else contributed (except you also know the last poster to post to it).
But I think I remember something about a threaded version too...
Posted by gardenergirl on July 14, 2005, at 9:56:06
In reply to Re: Viewing Name and Subject for Each Post in Thread » Ron Hill, posted by alexandra_k on July 14, 2005, at 9:43:26
I tried it and didn't like it. But it is an option.
gg
Posted by 10derHeart on July 14, 2005, at 11:23:59
In reply to Re: sorry to interrupt, but can't help it... » 10derHeart, posted by alexandra_k on July 13, 2005, at 16:23:45
> Well... Glad you got a giggle out of it :-)
Hmmm, I think I really messed up here, Alex. I was not laughing AT you, in any way, shape or form, you know.
Never.
The phrasing just struck that place in my mind where I suddenly *see* Dr.B as an actual rock.... or even more, picture you smacking your head up against him as he stays serene and even impenetrable....(I have a VERY vivid imagination...)> I really did mean that in the most respectful way possible.
Right. That's what I meant to be saying, though now I see I really did an awful job of mixing in sarcarm, humor and seriousness to the point the really light-hearted meaning may have got all muddled...
I used the comparison to my ex-T 'cause immediately after saying I was a "challenge," he went on to write several more sentences about how we'd challenged each other working together and both grown as a result, and how I'd taught him so many things he knew would help him be a better therapist, etc.
>>I'm not too good at this, sorry about that.
You're very good at this, and I see nothing to be sorry for. I'm sorry I sent weird, confusing messages with my poor writing :-(
> I just mean that Doc John seems to be more responsive which sometimes may be perceived as being fairly reactive. Dr Bob seems to be consistently rather careful with what he does say which sometimes can be perceived as being rather aloof / distant.Yup. I totally get that.
> I just think they kind of go in different directions when under pressure. I've never seen Dr Bob respond out of anger or anything like that - but then he seems to get more distant and cryptic with his remarks instead.Yeah. Andlike Dinah, I found your comments insightful.
I was trying to sort of jokingly point out how you can use a metaphor that's fairly blunt, yet because of your history here and/or with Dr. Bob, it's all good. Pulled out of context, I suppose the rock description could be taken various ways.
But I KNEW you didn't mean it in any *bad* way, but more to illustrate a difference, and to speak the truth of your perception of Dr. Bob.
Honestly and freely, but with respect.
It's why I said you are *cool.*It seems so great to see you free to do that, and to write plainly without excessive worry about not saying this or that as it might "come out wrong."
Which is me too often, I guess.
So I was envying you a bit.
And celebrating your respectful, sometimes funny and basically sound/good relationship with Dr. Bob here. At least it looks like that to me :-)If I communicated something else, I'm sorry.
Gosh, I LEARN so much here about words and people! Hope this learning episode didn't seem to be carelessly "at your expense," so to speak.
I'll do better next time...and every time, I hope....Okay, not the best clarification, but I wanted to try.
Posted by alexandra_k on July 14, 2005, at 19:42:57
In reply to Re: sorry to interrupt, but can't help it... » alexandra_k, posted by 10derHeart on July 14, 2005, at 11:23:59
You didn't mess up.
> It seems so great to see you free to do that, and to write plainly without excessive worry about not saying this or that as it might "come out wrong."
Ah, but then I did worry...
My stuff... Honestly, its okay.
I did get it in the spirit it was intended, but then overanalysed it a little and started to worry.
Posted by fayeroe on July 16, 2005, at 22:17:46
In reply to Re: curious » fayeroe, posted by alexandra_k on July 13, 2005, at 16:15:58
> Do you think we talk about PC more over here then posters talk about PB over there?
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> > i read references to Psych Central and wondered what PC had to do with anything here? maybe i'm dense, but i really can't see any reason for people to be worried about us. just curious. perhaps someone can explain it to me.i don't know the answer to that question. i don't see any real reason to talk about either board.......do you? i was just curious. i've not see any posting, on PC, about any individual poster, on Babble. people will talk about what their name was on one or the other board, but that's about it. pat
Posted by thuso on July 16, 2005, at 22:33:58
In reply to Re: curious, posted by fayeroe on July 16, 2005, at 22:17:46
> > Do you think we talk about PC more over here then posters talk about PB over there?
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> > > i read references to Psych Central and wondered what PC had to do with anything here? maybe i'm dense, but i really can't see any reason for people to be worried about us. just curious. perhaps someone can explain it to me.
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> i don't know the answer to that question. i don't see any real reason to talk about either board.......do you? i was just curious. i've not see any posting, on PC, about any individual poster, on Babble. people will talk about what their name was on one or the other board, but that's about it. pat
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>Actually, that isn't true. I did a search on PC and found a certain poster over here mentioned a couple times. They weren't the focus the thread, but once one person mentioned them, others agreed or disagreed. I discovered doing a search brings up some interesting reading. hahaha!
Posted by gabbii on July 17, 2005, at 1:21:58
In reply to Re: curious, posted by fayeroe on July 16, 2005, at 22:17:46
i've not see any posting, on PC, about any individual poster, on Babble.
I have, and I've only been over to P.C about 5 times, total, and was not looking for it.
Posted by AuntieMel on July 17, 2005, at 10:36:44
In reply to Re: curious, posted by gabbii on July 17, 2005, at 1:21:58
I have too, and it's one of the reasone I decided not to post over there.
It seemed too much to me like talking about someone behind their back.
If I had only seen it once, I might have let it go, but in one time checking it out I ran into posts about three different PB folks.
Posted by alexandra_k on July 17, 2005, at 16:11:37
In reply to Re: curious, posted by fayeroe on July 16, 2005, at 22:17:46
Hey there. I tend to notice when people mention PB over there. I notice it quite a lot in the travellers lounge especially. When new people turn up and say they have run into trouble at some other site the typical question seems to be whether they had trouble with 'civility'.
I think it is a way of welcoming people and letting them know they are not alone in struggling with civility and that they will be welcomed without judgement at that site.
I have read comments about Babble / certain posters at Babble which I wasn't terribly happy with. But one can't try and apply civility rules at another site...
> i don't see any real reason to talk about either board.......do you?
Well... I think it is interesting to contemplate their differences and the differences in the group dynamic. Especially if one is interested in how the rules of the site and the discipline on the site affect the group dynamic. Also about how different posters feel more at home at one place over another. Why is that? Do certain sites have a tendancy to draw certain types of posters?
I guess I just find it interesting.
But I also understand that people are worried about people at one site backstabbing / making derogatory comments about another site / posters at another site.
Posted by Deneb on July 17, 2005, at 19:13:16
In reply to Re: curious » fayeroe, posted by alexandra_k on July 17, 2005, at 16:11:37
> Do certain sites have a tendancy to draw certain types of posters?
I think so, yes. I don't know too much about other sites, but I find this site very enriching...much more so than at other places where I've heard that certain topics are avoided altogether for the sake of keeping the peace.
Deneb
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