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Posted by Lou Pilder on February 28, 2005, at 11:55:26
Dr. Hsiung,
I am requesting that you write a determination as to the acceptability or not in relation to the guidlines of the forum.
The poster writes as a response to what I wrote,[...philosphical discussions could be saved for threads started by someone who is not in crisis...].
I feel accused and put down when I read that. It is not my intention to initiate a philosophical discussion, but to enrichen the discussion by offering another possibility tothe discussion. There are many psychiatrists that consider discontinuing a drug when symptoms such as those described in the thread appear and some psychiatrist and even the drug companies that manufacture the drug include warnings to discontinue the drug under particular circumstances. The poster writes that Thorazine is available to him/her. Could that not mean that Thorizine may be taken by the poster at this time? And if so, could not it be at least a possibility that the taking of Thorizine could be considered in relation to its discontinuation? In this case, could there be the potential for one, IMO, to have the potential to think that the statement in question has the potential to be considered that the poster may not respect the point of view that I asked the forum to include in the discussion?.
The poster writes,[...saved for threads started by someone who is not in crisis...]. Does that statement have ,in your opinion, the potential for others to think that what other posters write in the thread is OK, but what I wrote is not OK here? If a person is in crisis, is there not something in the FAQ that writes for the one in crisis to seek help outside of the forum?
Lou Pilder
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20050111/msgs/464262.html
Posted by Lou Pilder on February 28, 2005, at 14:02:22
In reply to Lou's request to Dr. Hsiung-philodiscus?, posted by Lou Pilder on February 28, 2005, at 11:55:26
Dr. Hsiung,
On the faith board, the opening of the faith forum writes that it is for the topics to be about the service and worship of God.
In this instance where the poster asks others for help on the faith board, exorcism is part of the discussion. Other posters want to help this poster. The poster writes that Thorazine is available to him/her.
Could not, then, this poster be under the care of a psychiatrist or other type of doctor since Thorazine is avaialbe to him/her? There is the possibility that the drug was obtained without a prescription, but I have not read other posts outside of the thread in question to find out, so could we not assume that the drug is prescribed?
If it is, then one possibility,IMO, is that the drug could be causing some of the symptoms and if the poster was to consider that possibility, the poster could then have the opportunity to mention that to his/her treating doctor so that the doctor could have the opportunity to make a decision to reccommend that the poster discontinue the drug or not.
The other posters may have different reccomendations to the poster ,but could not all possibilities be suggested?
Lou Pilder
Posted by Lou Pilder on February 28, 2005, at 16:04:43
In reply to Lou's request to Dr. Hsiung-infotodoc, posted by Lou Pilder on February 28, 2005, at 14:02:22
Dr. Hsiung,
Is the use of exorcism considered to be a valid tratment in psychiatry? When I wrote in the previous post,[...could not all possibilities be suggested?...], I meant that since one suggested exorcism, then in this discussion, my suggestion could also be included in the discussion.
Allow me to clarify this. First, I do not think that exorcism is consideed to be an valid treatment by psychiatry because I have read that psychiatry does not endorse it. There are possible treatments for what the poster describes by the medical profession. I am not telling others to not look into possibilities that are {proven to be acceptable}. A psychiatrist can make a determination if discontinuing a drug, and perhaps replacing a drug with another drug is a possible treatment. All possibilities thearfore mean all {acceptable} possibilities and one poster wrote that he did not believe in exorcism. But there are posters here that have written that they do believe in considering exorcism. Now if the belief in exorcism, which I understand is not endorsed by psychiatry, can be posted here, then could not I ask if it is acceptable to consider that the discontinuation of a drug could be a consideration to be included in the discussion?
Lou PIlder
Posted by Dr. Bob on February 28, 2005, at 22:30:50
In reply to Lou's request to Dr. Hsiung-philodiscus?, posted by Lou Pilder on February 28, 2005, at 11:55:26
> > philosophical discussions could be saved for threads started by someone who is not in crisis...
> It is not my intention to initiate a philosophical discussion, but to enrichen the discussion by offering another possibility ... could not it be at least a possibility that the taking of Thorizine could be considered in relation to its discontinuation?
Simus may not have understood how you were trying to help. Would it make a difference if Thorazine were a factor? Maybe if you post a follow-up along those lines, it'll make it clear that yours wasn't just a "philosophical" question?
Bob
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 1, 2005, at 14:19:43
In reply to Re: Lou's request, posted by Dr. Bob on February 28, 2005, at 22:30:50
Dr. Hsiung,
You wrote,[...may not have understood how you were trying to help...post a follow-up...].
That is true.
You have a separate section in your FAQ ,something like,[...who do you trust...?] I am suggesting that the folowing 10 posters here, if they accept, be polled as a representative sample to see how others interpret the statement in question as it is written initilly, before I post a follow- up and then others, perhaps, could use the results as to the {who do you trust} concept as in the FAQ.
Lou Pilder
1.gardenergirl.
2.Toph
3.Larry Hoover
4.rayww
5.Dinah
6.Mark H
7.NikkiT2
8. Noa
9. AuntyMel
10. Tofu Emmy
I would like to have at lease 6 accept and If there is a tie, then you could cast the tie-breaker.
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 1, 2005, at 14:34:17
In reply to Re: Lou's request, posted by Dr. Bob on February 28, 2005, at 22:30:50
DR, Hsiung and members of the forum,
In my above suggestion, please disregard my suggestion. I am going to accept that what the poster wrote is accptable here in relation to the guidlines of the forum.
Lou
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