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Posted by 64bowtie on February 14, 2005, at 3:33:31
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Subject: Babblemail from Gabbi-x-2
Gabbi-x-2 at Psycho-Babble sends you this message:--------
It would feel really good to kill Rod today :)
<<< I just got this message via Babblemail. What protection do I have from this kinda cr*p here at Babble???Rod
Posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 14, 2005, at 5:06:15
In reply to Dr-Bob!!! This really sucks!!! Please Help!!!, posted by 64bowtie on February 14, 2005, at 3:33:31
Rod, I did not send you that message through babble mail, you do not need protection from it, you were not threatened. Yes you posted something that got under my skin, I fired off a babble mail in the heat of the moment, and sent another babble mail, to the recipient with an apology and an explanation, within about 10 minutes, I suppose you aren't going to show that one?
I apologize for upsetting you, it certainly was never meant as a threat, it was a figure of speech, That's not an excuse, but that's what happened and I'll take my 36 week block from Dr. Bob starting now, I guess.
Posted by partlycloudy on February 14, 2005, at 7:04:47
In reply to Dr-Bob!!! This really sucks!!! Please Help!!!, posted by 64bowtie on February 14, 2005, at 3:33:31
And your message to Dr Bob about the babblemail could have been spared from the rest of the board?
Honestly, Rod - this does none of us any good.
Posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 14, 2005, at 8:40:19
In reply to Don't you think this should have been kept private » 64bowtie, posted by partlycloudy on February 14, 2005, at 7:04:47
> And your message to Dr Bob about the babblemail could have been spared from the rest of the board?
> Honestly, Rod - this does none of us any good.Actually It helped me. I hadn't realized that it was okay for you to trust me with a quote "thorny" babblemail, but not okay for me to do the same, it surprised me.
I've actually learned a lot from this (I'm not being snide) I was conscious enough about my personal frustrations - irritations recently to ask one person in particular from Babble to listen to me let off steam so I wouldn't say anything unfair-or regrettable on the board, or gossip to anyone else. I guess I was a little late, I'll know to catch it earlier next time I go through rough patch, I do need to be responsible for what I say.
Posted by partlycloudy on February 14, 2005, at 8:59:25
In reply to Re: Don't you think this should have been kept private » partlycloudy, posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 14, 2005, at 8:40:19
Yes, but I don't feel it was supportive to have a babblemail message like that posted here.
Never mind, I am too fed up right now for this place to do me any good.
Posted by AuntieMel on February 14, 2005, at 9:12:46
In reply to Re: Don't you think this should have been kept private » partlycloudy, posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 14, 2005, at 8:40:19
I'm always available for anyone to vent to. I promise never to let it upset me.
Heck, with the meds I'm on it takes a real disaster to upset me.
Posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 14, 2005, at 9:26:11
In reply to Re: venting » Gabbi-x-2, posted by AuntieMel on February 14, 2005, at 9:12:46
Thanks Aunty Mel. I didn't need it before this month. My "Civ Buddy" is a gem, but I don't want to cost her extra therapy sessions, so it's really nice to know.
Posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 14, 2005, at 9:29:13
In reply to Re: Don't you think this should have been kept private » Gabbi-x-2, posted by partlycloudy on February 14, 2005, at 8:59:25
> Yes, but I don't feel it was supportive to have a babblemail message like that posted here.
>
What part of this *was* supportive?
Posted by partlycloudy on February 14, 2005, at 9:45:47
In reply to Re: Don't you think this should have been kept private, posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 14, 2005, at 9:29:13
There was no visible support in posting the babblemail message here, IMO.
Posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 14, 2005, at 9:59:42
In reply to That was my point. » Gabbi-x-2, posted by partlycloudy on February 14, 2005, at 9:45:47
or my sending it.. or you forwarding it.
No more from me on this
Posted by Dinah on February 14, 2005, at 10:01:37
In reply to Dr-Bob!!! This really sucks!!! Please Help!!!, posted by 64bowtie on February 14, 2005, at 3:33:31
Who on earth sent that Babblemail to you? No never mind - don't answer that; that would be a breach of confidentiality.
Rod, there is information in the FAQ on how to handle Babblemail that distresses you. It calls for sending the Babblemail, along with headers, to Dr. Bob. It doesn't include sharing it with the board or forwarding it to other posters. In fact I think there's something in the FAQ, and others have gotten admin actions, for making public private communications. Some people consider it well worth the block, or PBC, if they think it's worth it. And if it's a matter where you think the good outweighs the risk, then of course you have the right to make that decision.
But Rod, I think it's unlikely that Gabbi ever had in mind to kill you, don't you? If I killed everyone that I said that about, my family would be decimated, and my office would be littered with bodies. In my neck of the woods, it's generally considered a figure of speech, when weighed properly in context.
I do understand, however, that you might feel hurt. And I'm sorry for that. I hope you and Gabbi are able to resolve that.
I also understand that Gabbi might be feeling hurt. And I'm sorry for that too.
I have confidence in Dr. Bob to sort out anything he feels needs sorting.
And I have confidence that the two of you can work it out, if you so desire. (Three of you, perhaps, if the Babblemail didn't come directly from Gabbi.)
(Pssst. 3 R's)
Posted by gardenergirl on February 14, 2005, at 10:04:55
In reply to Re: Babblemail » 64bowtie, posted by Dinah on February 14, 2005, at 10:01:37
This statement appears at the bottom of received Babblemails. It gives directions for what to do if you feel that the email was an abuse of babblemail.
"If you consider this message to be an abuse of the babblemail feature,
please forward this email with this message "fingerprint":XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (ID removed)
and the "headers" (if you know how) to Dr. Bob at:
Thanks for being part of the Psycho-Babble community!"
I think this is very clear, although I can see how it might be overlooked.
gg
Posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 14, 2005, at 10:22:52
In reply to Re: Babblemail » 64bowtie, posted by Dinah on February 14, 2005, at 10:01:37
> Who on earth sent that Babblemail to you? No never mind - don't answer that; that would be a breach of confidentiality.
>Thank you Dinah, I'd actually written my first post response and had to re-write it when I realized that Rod's post inferred that I was actually threating him.
I never even hit my cat! I'm a vegetarian!
Ironically the reason I was venting off board was to avoid any hurt feelings ON board, (well you know that) and now it's made to like I'm threatening bodily harm. I feel like I'm defending myself in court.Yes I am hurt too, and thanks for seeing that.
I feel my trust was betrayed, and honestly if I'd heard that someone who I had never been friendly with on board had said "OH! I could strangle Gabbi right now!" I wouldn't really raise an eyebrow.
Posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 14, 2005, at 10:30:50
In reply to Re: Babblemail » Dinah, posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 14, 2005, at 10:22:52
P.S
I know I sent a babblemail to someone recently saying My new-years resolution was to learn to understand Rod better...
Posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 14, 2005, at 12:12:52
In reply to Re: Babblemail, posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 14, 2005, at 10:30:50
I know you're frightened, but don't worry, I have no plans to go to the Babble Anniversary
I think Dr.Bob will have security there anyway, so no need to worry about keeping safe from Gabbi
Posted by 64bowtie on February 14, 2005, at 13:21:15
In reply to Re: Dr-Bob!!! This really sucks!!! Please Help!!! » 64bowtie, posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 14, 2005, at 5:06:15
***Rod*** says:
<<< Babble continues to be a safe place for sharing, in spite of the likes of dangerous posters and their dangerous postings! Thank you Dr-Bob!!!!Gabbi-x-2 says:
> Rod, I did not send you that message through babble mail, you do not need protection from it, you were not threatened. Yes you posted something that got under my skin, I fired off a babble mail in the heat of the moment, and sent another babble mail, to the recipient with an apology and an explanation, within about 10 minutes, I suppose you aren't going to show that one?
> I apologize for upsetting you, it certainly was never meant as a threat, it was a figure of speech, That's not an excuse, but that's what happened and I'll take my 36 week block from Dr. Bob starting now, I guess.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
<<< I couldn't include your retraction because I never got a retraction, but I did get your dangerous email, so stop the denials!!!!
1. I don't expect a retraction and
2. your information about sending the retraction email within 10 minutes doesn't hold water... ever!I don't accept, nor will I ever consider, your apology. This is not trifle!!! Please have your shrink email me, soon! We can put together an acceptable strategy for you to make 9th step amends; I will accept nothing less than your amends! Its simple! Read the 'Big Book', do us both a favor!
Babble continues to be a safe place for sharing, in spite of the likes of dangerous posters and their dangerous postings! Thank you Dr-Bob!!!!
Rod
Posted by 64bowtie on February 14, 2005, at 13:26:55
In reply to Re: Babblemail » 64bowtie, posted by Dinah on February 14, 2005, at 10:01:37
Posted by partlycloudy on February 14, 2005, at 13:51:08
In reply to So, its just all OK for PC to be a co-offender??? (nm) » Dinah, posted by 64bowtie on February 14, 2005, at 13:26:55
Do me the courtesy of addressing me directly. Rod, I do not understand how my responding to a public post of yours makes me a co-offender of anything except participating in a thread that you began. I must say, however, that being referred to in a third party manner in a post heading is quite a slap in the face.
PC.
Posted by AuntieMel on February 14, 2005, at 16:47:37
In reply to ...in respectful response, posted by 64bowtie on February 14, 2005, at 13:21:15
Posted by AuntieMel on February 14, 2005, at 16:48:23
In reply to If you have something to say about me, please » 64bowtie, posted by partlycloudy on February 14, 2005, at 13:51:08
Posted by partlycloudy on February 14, 2005, at 16:52:31
In reply to Re: sorry - above *not* directed at rod (nm) » partlycloudy, posted by AuntieMel on February 14, 2005, at 16:48:23
Posted by partlycloudy on February 14, 2005, at 16:53:42
In reply to Re: sorry - above *not* directed at rod (nm) » partlycloudy, posted by AuntieMel on February 14, 2005, at 16:48:23
And actually I should think - why wouldn't it be?
Indignantly,
stormingthunderingclouds
Posted by AuntieMel on February 14, 2005, at 17:08:00
In reply to Re: sorry - above *not* directed at rod » AuntieMel, posted by partlycloudy on February 14, 2005, at 16:53:42
It was directed to anyone and everyone who's upset by this. I just didn't mean Rod specifically.
Posted by partlycloudy on February 14, 2005, at 17:13:53
In reply to Re: sorry - above *not* directed at rod » partlycloudy, posted by AuntieMel on February 14, 2005, at 17:08:00
Posted by Dinah on February 14, 2005, at 17:36:04
In reply to ...in respectful response, posted by 64bowtie on February 14, 2005, at 13:21:15
> ***Rod*** says:
> <<< Babble continues to be a safe place for sharing, in spite of the likes of dangerous posters and their dangerous postings!> So, its just all OK for PC to be a co-offender???
Dinah here, acting as deputy for Dr. Bob.
Please be sensitive to the feelings of other posters even if yours are hurt. Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
Dr. Bob is of course free to override all deputy decisions. I've emailed him and hopefully he'll be here shortly.
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