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Posted by partlycloudy on October 28, 2004, at 6:51:01
Why are posts being directed to Dr Bob for determination in the first place, when in most cases he is deciding that they are within the guildelines of civility for the boards? Does that not suggest a pattern that perhaps no determination from the moderator is necessary for those posts?
Wouldn't it make sense for the posters on the boards themselves to sort it out? I suppose if there's a situation where the poster with the request for determination is questioning a post from someone with whom they don't want to correspond (a "Do Not Post" person), to me it indicates that these are two people who have already agreed to disagree, in not so many words. In which case, it's a matter of dropping a subject. You can't resolve a difference of opinion.
Disagreeing with someone else's viewpoint would not be something that would require determination of whether the post falls within the guidelines of the board - that would be neither here nor there.
I hope I didn't just shoot myself in the foot, but there seems to be a true lack of common sense going on here, in my eyes.
Posted by Larry Hoover on October 28, 2004, at 8:56:49
In reply to Requests for determination, posted by partlycloudy on October 28, 2004, at 6:51:01
> Why are posts being directed to Dr Bob for determination in the first place, when in most cases he is deciding that they are within the guildelines of civility for the boards?
Very good point. The alternative is that there hasn't even been time for Bob to review the board.
There is a fable about the boy who called wolf. In its conclusion, it shows that repetitive calls for attention lead to something else instead. I grow weary of requests to look more closely at post after post.
Lar
Posted by AuntieMel on October 28, 2004, at 14:32:08
In reply to Requests for determination, posted by partlycloudy on October 28, 2004, at 6:51:01
If it *is* going to be done at all (and it can - within the rules) isn't it better to be done here? It does keep the original thread (hopefully) from straying.
Posted by partlycloudy on October 28, 2004, at 15:24:03
In reply to Re: Requests for determination » partlycloudy, posted by AuntieMel on October 28, 2004, at 14:32:08
I think if folks have locked their antlers and are unable to reach an agreeable end with their own attempts amongst themselves; and if it's the site's guidelines that are in question (as opposed to a difference of opinion), then I would defer to the moderator.
I think that by keeping the communication open between the two posters involved, perhaps a misunderstanding of intent can be clarified rather than having to get the third party (Dr Bob) involved.
Posted by Noa on October 28, 2004, at 19:06:36
In reply to Re: Requests for determination » partlycloudy, posted by AuntieMel on October 28, 2004, at 14:32:08
Yes, that aspect of this is valuable. It allows the threads on the other boards to flow better. That was one of the original reasons, I believe, for Dr. Bob creating the Admin board.
But I think there are also other administrative issues that are raised and discussed on the admin board besides checking if a post is within guidelines.
I'd generally like to avoid having to read all these grievances and counter-greivances because of the negative interactions that tend to develop. BUT I don't want to never come to admin because sometimes there are other things discussed here that I do want to see.
I think maybe there should be a separate board for grievances about posts, and leave admin for other administrative issues.
I also like the idea of limiting the number of grievances any one person can post per day.
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 30, 2004, at 6:24:13
In reply to Re: Requests for determination » AuntieMel, posted by Noa on October 28, 2004, at 19:06:36
> sometimes there are other things discussed here that I do want to see.
>
> I think maybe there should be a separate board for grievances about posts, and leave admin for other administrative issues.That's a good example of another type of topic. :-) So what do people think?
Bob
Posted by partlycloudy on October 30, 2004, at 9:36:44
In reply to Re: separate board for grievances, posted by Dr. Bob on October 30, 2004, at 6:24:13
Posted by SLS on October 30, 2004, at 9:55:14
In reply to Re: separate board for grievances, posted by Dr. Bob on October 30, 2004, at 6:24:13
> > sometimes there are other things discussed here that I do want to see.
> >
> > I think maybe there should be a separate board for grievances about posts, and leave admin for other administrative issues.
>
> That's a good example of another type of topic. :-) So what do people think?
>
> Bob
That might be a good idea to relieve the administration board, but the problem at the new board would exist identically to that which it is now here. I bet people would flock to that board to see what's going on to the same extent as they do here.I think there is still a need for limits.
- Scott
Posted by Noa on October 30, 2004, at 13:40:47
In reply to Re: separate board for grievances, posted by SLS on October 30, 2004, at 9:55:14
I agree, Scott. I think we need both.
As for the issue of a poster needing to exceed the daily limit or the limit about a single poster, I think that could be resolved by having the person direct the questions to Dr. Bob via email after using up the limits.
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 31, 2004, at 10:50:59
In reply to Re: separate board for grievances » SLS, posted by Noa on October 30, 2004, at 13:40:47
> I bet people would flock to that board to see what's going on to the same extent as they do here.
>
> SLSMaybe, but maybe not. As Noa said, some people might discuss other topics here and avoid that board.
> As for the issue of a poster needing to exceed [a limit], I think that could be resolved by having the person direct the questions to Dr. Bob via email after using up the limits.
>
> NoaThat's a good point, thanks.
Bob
Posted by Larry Hoover on October 31, 2004, at 16:53:50
In reply to Re: separate board for grievances, posted by Dr. Bob on October 31, 2004, at 10:50:59
> > I bet people would flock to that board to see what's going on to the same extent as they do here.
> >
> > SLS
>
> Maybe, but maybe not. As Noa said, some people might discuss other topics here and avoid that board.I would be thrilled to see most of this content moved to another board, which I would scrupulously ignore, save those instances which involved me personally.
Lar
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