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Posted by Lou Pilder on October 27, 2004, at 16:48:12
Dr. Hsiung,
I am requesting that you make a determination as to the acceptability or not to the following in relation to the guidlines of the faith board.
In particular, but not limited to:
[...Wherefore, by faith was the law of Moses given. But in the gift of his Son, hath God prepared {a [more excellant] way...].
Lou Pilder
One brings up the post and clicks on the first link offered by rayww to see this verse. The verse is verse 11.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20040914/msgs/408011.html
Posted by Lou Pilder on October 27, 2004, at 17:22:02
In reply to Lou's request toDr. hsiung, posted by Lou Pilder on October 27, 2004, at 16:48:12
Dr. Hsiung,
I feel put down when I read the verse offered by rayww here in question. I am asking you to make the determination not only for me to have the determination, but for others as well. For I feel, and it is my opinion, that the verse has the potential to put down those of other faiths that do not honor the Son of God in their faith. And I am requesting your determination so that I , and others, could know if you are endorsing what the verse in question says.
Lou Pilder
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faithj/20040914/msgs/408011.html
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 27, 2004, at 19:31:25
In reply to Lou's request toDr. Hsiung-exwy, posted by Lou Pilder on October 27, 2004, at 17:22:02
> I feel, and it is my opinion, that the verse has the potential to put down those of other faiths that do not honor the Son of God in their faith.
Sorry, but that's not how I read it.
Bob
Posted by Lou Pilder on October 27, 2004, at 20:13:28
In reply to Re: Lou's request, posted by Dr. Bob on October 27, 2004, at 19:31:25
Dr. Hsiung,
The poster writes in my request to you for a determination ;
[Wherefore, by faith was the law of Moses given. But in the gift of his Son hath God prepared {a more excelllant way}...].
I wrote that I think that your rule to not put down those of other faiths could make that statement not acceptable in relation to the guidlines of the faith board. The part in the statement, [...a more excellant way...] has the potential for one to think, IMO, that the way of following the Law of Moses is not as good as the way of the faith that has the Son of God and the way with the Son of God is a {more excellant way} than the way of Moses, that the jews follow.You replied to my request that you do not read it that way.
Could you tell me then how you read it, so that what is written does not mean what I have explained as I read it? If you could, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
Lou Pilder
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20040914/msgs/408011.html
Posted by Lou Pilder on October 27, 2004, at 20:26:35
In reply to Lou's respose to Dr. Hsiung's reply to Lou, posted by Lou Pilder on October 27, 2004, at 20:13:28
Dr. Hsiung,
You wrote, [...that is not how I read it...].
But is not the rule saying that statements on the faith board are unacceptable if they put down those of other faiths? Is not the rule not about how you read it, but how others could read it? I read it and I feel put down when I read it, for my faith has the law of Moses and I do not feel that God prepared a {more excellant way} by the gift of his Son that the poster's faith involves.
I am requesting that you take into consideration that the rules IMO have been stated here as to if others could be offened in relation to words written, not if the moderator could be offended, or if others could feel put down, not if the moderator feels put down, and I feel put down by the statement and believe that I have a ligitimate reason for such, regardless how anyone else reads it, for I am not like evryone else.
Lou pilder
Posted by Dinah on October 27, 2004, at 20:59:20
In reply to Lou's respose to Dr. Hsiung's reply to Lou-B, posted by Lou Pilder on October 27, 2004, at 20:26:35
Lou, the statement in the FAQ's is just shorthand for "you shouldn't say anything that the moderator feels would be likely to make others feel put down". It isn't feasible for any moderator to consider all the possibilities of what could possibly make each and every poster feel put down. Because everyone *does* have their own legitimate reasons, and every single person *is* unlike every other single person. We each carry our own experiences and our own perceptions.
But we are allowed (within the civility guidelines) to post our own reactions to a post. Or to post about our own deep and abiding love of our own faith.
Posted by Lou Pilder on October 27, 2004, at 21:13:50
In reply to Re: Lou's respose to Dr. Hsiung's reply to Lou-B » Lou Pilder, posted by Dinah on October 27, 2004, at 20:59:20
Dinah,
The rules state that what ever your faith is about or even your love for that faith, statements can not put down those of other faiths. The statement in questuiion writes {...a more excellant way...], and that way is more excellant than the way of Moses, which is the way of the jews. I do not see that the rule to not write what could put down those of other faiths is dependant on the moderator as to how he reads something. What if the moderator was a jew? Would the statement in question pass? I do not believe that it would, for the statement in question could be seen as saying that the faith of rayww, the poster, supercedes the faith of the jews because the faith of rayww, being of the christian type, Mormonism, which the statement in question comes from, has a more excellant way prepared by God. More excellent way than what way? Why the way of Moses. ThatIMO puts down those of the jewish faith because Moses is written about in the statement.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on October 27, 2004, at 21:27:13
In reply to Re: Lou's respose to Dr. Hsiung's reply to Lou-B » Lou Pilder, posted by Dinah on October 27, 2004, at 20:59:20
Dinah,
Plese do not post to me.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041027/msgs/408136.html
Posted by TofuEmmy on October 27, 2004, at 21:55:41
In reply to Lou's response to Dinah~ptm » Dinah, posted by Lou Pilder on October 27, 2004, at 21:27:13
oh gosh, this is so sad. :-(
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