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Posted by Larry Hoover on September 9, 2004, at 10:05:02
In reply to Re: Make no mistake. I am not particularly sweet. » Larry Hoover, posted by Dinah on September 9, 2004, at 9:43:09
I appreciate your support. I really do.
> I don't really see the parallel here though.
I didn't mean to draw a literal parallel. I meant to point out that there are likely to be two polarized sides to the perception. The particular side to which one falls is both personal and arbitrary. Judging a member of the opposite side from yourself is capricious and arbitrary. It is neither fair nor just. However, if intent is taken into account, then the situation takes on aspects of fairness and justice that would be otherwise be denied.
Lar
Posted by Dinah on September 9, 2004, at 10:17:30
In reply to Re: Make no mistake. I am not particularly sweet. » Dinah, posted by Larry Hoover on September 9, 2004, at 10:05:02
Hmmm... I think we're talking apples and apples here Lar, and are on the same page. Dr. Bob says he doesn't take intent into account, but what he and you are calling intent, I think I'm calling interpretation. I think Dr. Bob may *think* he doesn't take intent into account, but I don't see how that's possible. Intent is part of interpretation. A sentence or even a word can have so many meanings. It's impossible, IMO, to interpret what *anyone* says without some consideration of intent.
For example, many times teasing things are said on Social between posters who clearly know each other and are fond of each other. Dr. Bob doesn't hand out PBC's or blocks. Although on one occasion he invited anyone who felt uncomfortable to email him privately. Yet if the exact same things were said to strangers, with no underlying affection evident, it would definitely be flagged.
The intent behind the posts is clear and it is obviously taken into account in interpreting the posts. Just as context is obviously taken into account. And probably a host of other things that a communications expert would understand better than I. It can't be otherwise or communication would be impossible.
So what you're saying is that Dr. Bob is interpreting your posts correctly but ignoring intent. What I'm saying is that Dr. Bob is misinterpreting your posts by misinterpreting intent. And Dr. Bob is saying he doesn't take intent into account, but I think he means something totally different than either of us means by that.
Posted by Susan47 on September 9, 2004, at 11:30:33
In reply to I have the old picture that changes a bit, posted by Shadowplayers721 on September 9, 2004, at 3:32:56
Posted by alesta on September 9, 2004, at 15:00:32
In reply to Your post tickled my funny bone Shadow. (nm), posted by Susan47 on September 9, 2004, at 11:30:33
i really am sorry for what i said...attacking people is really not my style at all..in real life it takes a lot for me to even raise my voice (except when pms-ing :)). i suppose i was just frustrated...i saw the picture as representing a suicide gesture, and felt like my impression was invalidated..i totally handled this situation in the wrong manner...i sincerely am sorry...
amy:)
Posted by partlycloudy on September 9, 2004, at 15:19:22
In reply to i would really like to apologize....:), posted by alesta on September 9, 2004, at 15:00:32
Posted by alesta on September 9, 2004, at 16:02:53
In reply to We're all human. forgeddaboudit. (nm), posted by partlycloudy on September 9, 2004, at 15:19:22
Posted by Shadowplayers721 on September 9, 2004, at 16:51:23
In reply to We're all human. forgeddaboudit. (nm), posted by partlycloudy on September 9, 2004, at 15:19:22
I agree we are all human as the wise poster stated. However, (oh, oh here comes the noneducated psychiatrist on staff in Shadowplayers) this was a control study mind you. The frequency of the flash was designed to make one see into their subconscious. Some saw a razor, gun, etc. The response was overwhelming. To doc Bob conscious mind, "It was interesting." Hence, he (Dr. Bob) was doing a study of sorts. One he (his shadow self) does not realize is he is seeing into his own subconscious via proxy of Pschobabble world. Therefore, one doesn't do a study to others without doing a study for a self discovery of oneself. Perhaps, Dr. Bob is really trying to see the side that I see, but can't be seen with the eye. There is much to tell. But, I must get back to my readings or the book may fall into my lap or my head for that matter.
GEEES!!!! I don't know about you, but this noneducated psychiatrist is really scary. I don't think that I want to hang out with the noneducated psychiatrist. Whew!!!
Posted by Dr. Bob on September 9, 2004, at 17:39:59
In reply to i would really like to apologize....:), posted by alesta on September 9, 2004, at 15:00:32
Posted by TofuEmmy on September 9, 2004, at 19:21:52
In reply to Re: thanks (nm) » alesta, posted by Dr. Bob on September 9, 2004, at 17:39:59
...so we can buy Dr Bob a decent camera.... ;-)
Since yesterday Bob has sent me not 1, but 3 apologies. So, now I will tear up this plane ticket to Chicago. I had intended on going there and stomping the %&@# out of his little webcam.
All better now.
Emmy
Posted by Dinah on September 9, 2004, at 19:24:50
In reply to I'm starting a new donation fund...., posted by TofuEmmy on September 9, 2004, at 19:21:52
Glad you're feeling better, Emmy.
Posted by Dinah on September 9, 2004, at 19:28:14
In reply to I'm starting a new donation fund...., posted by TofuEmmy on September 9, 2004, at 19:21:52
While I'll admit to a fair amount of idealizing transference towards you (you're in my envelope of issues), my trust in you also has a firm foundation in history and in your actions over time.
Sometimes a banana is just a banana, Anna.
Posted by Cass on September 9, 2004, at 19:38:25
In reply to Re: And See Dr. Bob?, posted by Dinah on September 9, 2004, at 19:28:14
I never felt that Dr. Bob was trying to torment us with that photo. It would seem too out of character.
Posted by KaraS on September 9, 2004, at 19:38:58
In reply to i would really like to apologize....:), posted by alesta on September 9, 2004, at 15:00:32
> i really am sorry for what i said...attacking people is really not my style at all..in real life it takes a lot for me to even raise my voice (except when pms-ing :)). i suppose i was just frustrated...i saw the picture as representing a suicide gesture, and felt like my impression was invalidated..i totally handled this situation in the wrong manner...i sincerely am sorry...
>
> amy:)
You saw it based on your own particular filter which derives from your personal experiences. I'm sure I would have seen it the same way had I gone through what you have. I'm sorry if my post made you feel invalidated. It certainly wasn't meant to. I do hope you'll come back to psycho-babble.Kara
Posted by Susan47 on September 9, 2004, at 19:57:16
In reply to I'm starting a new donation fund...., posted by TofuEmmy on September 9, 2004, at 19:21:52
Oh Emmy I'm so glad you're not going to Chicago :) Not yet anyways. Not without me. I want to see Dr. B too! I just have this feeling about him.. I suppose I'm transferring again. Ah yah.
Posted by saw on September 10, 2004, at 1:48:24
In reply to i would really like to apologize....:), posted by alesta on September 9, 2004, at 15:00:32
Posted by All Done on September 10, 2004, at 9:50:02
In reply to I'm starting a new donation fund...., posted by TofuEmmy on September 9, 2004, at 19:21:52
> So, now I will tear up this plane ticket to Chicago.
What??? And I had a nice tofu dinner waiting just for you. I guess I'll go fling it at D and see what happens. Hmpf.
--Sorry, Dr. Bob. I'll keep it admin here (umm, next time).
Posted by TofuEmmy on September 10, 2004, at 10:34:13
In reply to Re: Not coming to Chicago? » TofuEmmy, posted by All Done on September 10, 2004, at 9:50:02
Eat the tofu. Throw ME at D. ;-)
Posted by iris2 on September 17, 2004, at 8:33:42
In reply to Re: Can you email it on to me? » Larry Hoover, posted by Dinah on September 8, 2004, at 18:22:04
> It's hard to comment on it with the flashes I've seen.
I'm curious what this was all about. If anyone has it could you email it to me? I never saw it on my computer. But perhaps you might think it is strange of me to ask after the fact.
Irene
Posted by henrietta on September 19, 2004, at 19:17:20
In reply to Re: not silly to trust » henrietta, posted by Dinah on September 8, 2004, at 20:09:10
Chuckle. What a quaint take, dear. I won't try to explain what is seemingly incomprehensible to so many. It wasn't about you, or any interaction you have had with me. Sorry if I gave that impression. I repeat, it wasn't about you. It's just about the possibility that what some perceive
to be sensitivity is perceived by others to be astonishing
insensitivity. But that's life, ain't it?
regards! hen
Posted by Dinah on September 19, 2004, at 21:33:18
In reply to Re: not silly to trust » Dinah, posted by henrietta on September 19, 2004, at 19:17:20
Sorry, hen. Quaint, I rather like that word. Just a convergence of ideas that happened to be similar to things I had expressed lately, I suppose. It happens. Beardy had a word for it that escapes me for the moment.
We must think on the same wavelength because I've noticed that convergence before. And I rather think it'll happen again, so bear with me.
Posted by Dinah on September 19, 2004, at 22:10:42
In reply to Re: not silly to trust » Dinah, posted by henrietta on September 19, 2004, at 19:17:20
I knew it would come to me if I didn't try to think of it.
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=synchronicity
Your post talking about trust and not watching the news. My immediately preceding post about trust and recent ones about not watching the news. Synchronicity!!!
I certainly don't want to have the hubris to think you read any of my posts. Chuckle. It's bad enough that I have the hubris to notice the synchronicity.
I don't see the part about sensitivity/insensitivity in there. I only see trust and not watching the news. But perhaps I'm looking at the wrong post, or interpreting it wrong or something. That happens too.
Posted by Dinah on September 27, 2004, at 16:13:23
In reply to Re: not silly to trust » Dinah, posted by henrietta on September 19, 2004, at 19:17:20
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Posted by Dinah on September 27, 2004, at 16:13:51
In reply to Alrighty, Dr. Bob. :), posted by Dinah on September 27, 2004, at 16:13:23
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Posted by Dinah on September 27, 2004, at 16:14:20
In reply to Gimme a P!!, posted by Dinah on September 27, 2004, at 16:13:51
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Posted by gardenergirl on September 27, 2004, at 16:15:23
In reply to Re: Gimme a B!!!, posted by Dinah on September 27, 2004, at 16:14:20
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