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Posted by Dinah on April 4, 2002, at 23:05:18
If so, I plan to start using it liberally.
Posted by Dinah on April 4, 2002, at 23:11:01
In reply to Do I understand that eye roll is judged civil?, posted by Dinah on April 4, 2002, at 23:05:18
I'm just going to go practice my meditation instead.
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 5, 2002, at 0:08:58
In reply to Re: No I won't., posted by Dinah on April 4, 2002, at 23:11:01
> I'm just going to go practice my meditation instead.
Thanks. It wasn't a model response, but I didn't consider it to cross the line. That subjective and possibly shifting line. In that case. :-)
Bob
Posted by Elizabeth on April 7, 2002, at 18:12:19
In reply to Re: No I won't., posted by Dr. Bob on April 5, 2002, at 0:08:58
> > I'm just going to go practice my meditation instead.
>
> Thanks. It wasn't a model response, but I didn't consider it to cross the line. That subjective and possibly shifting line. In that case. :-)I don't think anybody said it was "civil," and even I admitted that I shouldn't have said it. Still, I'm surprised it's generated so much anger.
-e
Posted by Zo on April 8, 2002, at 4:34:59
In reply to Re: No I won't., posted by Dr. Bob on April 5, 2002, at 0:08:58
I am still wondering if the above subject line can really be said to be Civil. It bothers my sense of civility, the way it names one person without naming her, comments on her without commenting.
Anyone involved knows who "rolled her eyes"--and I doubt there is anyone here who interprets that subject line as a compliment to Elizabeth.
So how can that be considered civil?
Just because something. .. unfortunate. . .has been accomplished without seeming to have done anything. . . 'Twas certainly accomplished, nonetheless.
I am genuinely curious---am I painting with too fine a brush here? I'd like to understand how this relates--or doesn't--to Civil.
Thanks,
Zo
Posted by beardedlady on April 8, 2002, at 6:39:06
In reply to Re: Do I understand that eye roll is judged civil? » Dr. Bob, posted by Zo on April 8, 2002, at 4:34:59
Posted by Dinah on April 8, 2002, at 8:29:07
In reply to Re: Do I understand that eye roll is judged civil? » Dr. Bob, posted by Zo on April 8, 2002, at 4:34:59
I give up Zo. Can't you ever take anything I say at face value?
I wanted to use the eye roll so I asked if it was considered civil. I meant what I said, as I usually mean exactly what I say.
Again your post has made me cry. And shake. And gives me posters phobia. I thought I could communicate and I obviously can't.
So you win. I can't get this upset over posting . So I won't. Everytime I post I end up crying.
But why? Why can't you take what I ask at face value. When I asked if the eye roll was civil because I wanted to use it if it wasn't going to get me a civility warning for it.
And I don't care if this gets a civility warning. I'm beyond caring about that. How ccan i post again anyway? everything io asay gets misudnerestood.
Posted by trouble on April 8, 2002, at 11:01:41
In reply to I give up » Zo, posted by Dinah on April 8, 2002, at 8:29:07
Dinah,
We are all overwrougt right now. Seeing the last line of your post reminds me of some of my own when I'm thisclose to dropping my head on the keyboard and never raising it again.
There is enough love here for everyone, including you, I mean the special and enduring connections you've made w/ others. Those are real, just b/c we can't get together w/ everyone doesn't diminish the friendships we do build.Zo and Dinah, Dinah and Zo, you two are fire and ice or am I overstating the case? One day we'll all look back and grin at this, how desperately we all try to forge our identities into the minds of others, as if something momentous depended on complete and unvarnished acceptance, but we're not therapists, that unconditional positive regard we all seek costs 125 bucks an hour in the town I live in.
IMHO right now our healing rests on clinging to the tried and tested soft and fuzzies we know are out there, and putting the pricklies on hold while we try to deal w/ our communal and incomprehensible loss.
with best regards,
trouble
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 8, 2002, at 11:18:30
In reply to I give up » Zo, posted by Dinah on April 8, 2002, at 8:29:07
> I wanted to use the eye roll so I asked if it was considered civil. I meant what I said, as I usually mean exactly what I say.
>
> Again your post has made me cry. And shake. And gives me posters phobia. I thought I could communicate and I obviously can't.If you mean what you say, and say what you mean, but still there's a misunderstanding, does that really mean you obviously can't communicate?
Bob
Posted by trouble on April 8, 2002, at 11:39:05
In reply to Re: please don't give up, posted by Dr. Bob on April 8, 2002, at 11:18:30
Posted by Zo on April 9, 2002, at 0:27:02
In reply to I give up » Zo, posted by Dinah on April 8, 2002, at 8:29:07
. . .posting my question about this aspect of civility instead of sending it directly to Dr. Bob, which is what I meant to do.
I am judgement-imparied after midnight. (And Bob, N.B. if you insert in here, So don't post after midnight. . .!)
I do regret causing you any upset by my error.
Zo
Posted by mair on April 9, 2002, at 8:09:50
In reply to Re: I really regret. . .. » Dinah, posted by Zo on April 9, 2002, at 0:27:02
Zo
You and Dinah are like oil and water - it would have been nice for the sake of the Board if you (collectively) could've found a way to stay away from one another and cede the opportunity to have the last word. Maybe I'm missing something here, but your post about Dinah's eye roll remark came 4 days after she made it. So for 4 days you apparently didn't feel the need to respond to her post. Didn't you think that maybe this thread had pretty much played itself out? Didn't it occur to you that maybe now wouldn't be a good time to continue sniping about stuff like this?
The explanation about meaning to send this directly to Dr. Bob doesn't wash - emailing someone is such a different mechanism from posting - I don't see how you confuse one with the other at any hour.
To Dr. Bob if you read this: I've seen you jump into lots of threads with a suggestion that the thread should just end. Since this thread was just an outgrowth of another up above, I sure wish you had done that here.Mair
Posted by Zo on April 9, 2002, at 18:20:36
In reply to It's too late now Zo, posted by mair on April 9, 2002, at 8:09:50
Mair,
I thought I made it clear that I was NOT responding to Dinah herself or to her post, but writing out my thoughts, a question to Bob--which, had I been sensitive to Dinah's feelings at that moment, I would not have posted. But perhaps it bears repeating.
I think both Dinah and I could do without the characterizations such as oil and water, from everybody.
Thanks,
Zo
Posted by DinahM on April 22, 2002, at 18:21:56
In reply to Dinah, don't give up, posted by trouble on April 8, 2002, at 11:01:41
It had bothered me that I had changed my password so that I could no longer post before I got a chance to thank you for this post. It meant a lot to me.
It's good to see you back.
With fondness, as always,
Dinah
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