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Posted by shelliR on March 26, 2002, at 20:24:47
Dr. Bob,
Just for the record, I am finding many of the redirects from PB to PSB distracting and irritating. When there is a core group happening on PB, many of whom do not participate on PSB, I think you could be a bit more flexible about who you decide to redirect. For example if a new person posts on PB about his/her relationship with a therapist, then I think a redirect is appropriate.
In the case where there are lots of interactions between the same group of people, I think redirecting pretty much kills the conversation. Like if you're at a dinner party where drugs are being discussed, then you mention the weather around dessert time and you must leave the table. How many people will actually follow you?
Lets say I felt suicidal. If I posted about it at all, I'd want to post to the people I already "know"--on the PB board, even though it is not a drug issue.
On the positive side, maybe you *are* being flexible at times, because I noticed that you did not redirect the conversation about ECT.Anyway, just my 2 cents.
Shelli
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 27, 2002, at 11:16:02
In reply to re: Redirects, posted by shelliR on March 26, 2002, at 20:24:47
> Just for the record, I am finding many of the redirects from PB to PSB distracting and irritating.
Sorry, I had second thoughts myself after that last big bunch...
> In the case where there are lots of interactions between the same group of people, I think redirecting pretty much kills the conversation. Like if you're at a dinner party where drugs are being discussed, then you mention the weather around dessert time and you must leave the table. How many people will actually follow you?
But it's different than a dinner party. First, it's just one click to pick up the redirected conversation. Second, it's possible to be at two tables at the same time...
Bob
Posted by trouble on March 27, 2002, at 12:53:04
In reply to re: Redirects, posted by Dr. Bob on March 27, 2002, at 11:16:02
Are we supposed to feel chagrined when we are re-directed? Is it a warning, like pls be civil, can you get blocked for going to wrong board too many times?
Are we theoretically able to move one of our own posts from one board to another?
And how come when threads are rediirected they still appear on the original board too, is it just a matter of time til they're removed?
I don't see how so many PSB issues end up on PB and can get confused about where to post, sometimes my replies end up more or less alone on the wrong board, but I figure it all gets straightened out in the archives eventually, so no big deal, I think.trouble
Posted by shelliR on March 27, 2002, at 19:15:19
In reply to re: Redirects, posted by Dr. Bob on March 27, 2002, at 11:16:02
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 28, 2002, at 8:02:22
In reply to re: Redirects, posted by trouble on March 27, 2002, at 12:53:04
> Are we supposed to feel chagrined when we are re-directed? Is it a warning, like pls be civil, can you get blocked for going to wrong board too many times?
In both cases, you're supposed to feel educated. :-) I suppose in theory someone could be blocked for going to wrong board too many times, but it hasn't happened yet...
> Are we theoretically able to move one of our own posts from one board to another?
Even better, you can redirect it to another board in the first place. Just by changing the "board" setting under "enter (or revise) your post".
> And how come when threads are rediirected they still appear on the original board too, is it just a matter of time til they're removed?
Hmm, did that happen? Which threads? Usually I delete them...
Bob
Posted by Krazy Kat on March 28, 2002, at 8:24:34
In reply to re: Redirects, posted by Dr. Bob on March 28, 2002, at 8:02:22
i was just ready to start a thread on this myself.
in the introductory paragraphs on this site, it reads:
"If what you want to do is support someone more than discuss an issue, just post to whichever board they posted to"
when a post is started on a certain board, and changes direction, it kills it when it's redirected. i see a great loss here for those who are involved in it. i don't know why this happens, but it does.
if a post is started on the wrong board, i don't see a problem with moving it to the correct one. it seems to keep going.
it seems to me that this rule really needs to be bent. it's a horrible feeling when you're engaged in an emotional discussion, to have it redirected and just fall away.
and, according to what is stated above, it is all right to post to the board that the person you are answering posted to (unless i'm reading it incorrectly).
anyhoo, a little leniency here would be much appreciated.
- kk
Posted by CtrlAlt n Del on March 28, 2002, at 10:01:52
In reply to re: Redirects, posted by Dr. Bob on March 28, 2002, at 8:02:22
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 30, 2002, at 13:03:09
In reply to inconsistency, posted by Krazy Kat on March 28, 2002, at 8:24:34
> "If what you want to do is support someone more than discuss an issue, just post to whichever board they posted to"
>
> according to what is stated above, it is all right to post to the board that the person you are answering posted to (unless i'm reading it incorrectly).No, you're correct, I don't want a cry for help to go unanswered because it's posted to the "wrong" board, but if that thread keeps going, I would then like it to be redirected.
> when a post is started on a certain board, and changes direction, it kills it when it's redirected. i see a great loss here for those who are involved in it. i don't know why this happens, but it does.
I wish I understood that better myself. Why not just click on the link to the redirected post, reply to it, and continue the discussion there?
Bob
Posted by Mair on March 30, 2002, at 23:07:34
In reply to Re: inconsistency, posted by Dr. Bob on March 30, 2002, at 13:03:09
What I don't like is the way the redirected threads arrive on a different Board, like PSB. They all arrive with your name on them and it's very difficult to trace them back to their origin. The people who started them have to jump to another Board to continue, and the people to whom they are redirected can't easily reconstruct the thread, and therefore can't easily join in.
Mair
Posted by shelliR on March 31, 2002, at 11:20:11
In reply to Re: inconsistency » Dr. Bob, posted by Mair on March 30, 2002, at 23:07:34
I agree with Mair.
If you look on PSB after you've redirected there's just one post with your name on it. Is there at least a way to move the whole thread, except maybe the first post, so people on PB will see it? Or a way to keep that person's name on it instead of your name. Anyway, it is pretty obvious that it simply doesn't work this way.
Shelli
p.s. this is another case where the core group of PB is being sent to PSB. I don't even understand why that is necessary. I think it's even helpful, once in a while, to check out who the people are who post on PB and rarely on PSB. Anyway, living with someone when you have depression is not totally removed from living with someone when you are taking meds for depression. I really think you could leave threads like this where they are.
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 31, 2002, at 11:24:24
In reply to Re: inconsistency » Dr. Bob, posted by Mair on March 30, 2002, at 23:07:34
> What I don't like is the way the redirected threads arrive on a different Board, like PSB. They all arrive with your name on them
You mean with my name on them, because I've posted them. Yes, but I include the poster's name, too.
> and it's very difficult to trace them back to their origin.
Hmm. I do include the "posted by" information, which includes a link to the post they replied to (if it was a reply), but you're right, there's no link back to that post itself. I'll try doing that instead.
> The people who started them have to jump to another Board to continue
Yes, but it's just one click...
> and the people to whom they are redirected can't easily reconstruct the thread, and therefore can't easily join in.
I think that's more the case when I move a whole bunch of posts at the same time, but I'm going to try not to do that anymore.
Thanks for the feedback, let me see if I can do this better,
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 31, 2002, at 19:40:27
In reply to Re: inconsistency, posted by shelliR on March 31, 2002, at 11:20:11
> If you look on PSB after you've redirected there's just one post with your name on it. Is there at least a way to move the whole thread, except maybe the first post, so people on PB will see it? Or a way to keep that person's name on it instead of your name.
Sorry, there's just one post with whose name on it? Here are the first couple that have both my name and the name of the original poster listed:
Re: ZO: questions 4 U! « Zo Dr. Bob 3/26/02
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20020325/msgs/20948.htmlRe: Misanthropy? Sad? « beardedlady Dr. Bob 3/26/02
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20020325/msgs/20951.html> p.s. this is another case where the core group of PB is being sent to PSB. I don't even understand why that is necessary.
Maybe "core" members are more likely to feel comfortable enough to "stray" into other areas?
It might be kind of obsessive, but the idea is to help people find what they're looking for:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20020124/msgs/91744.html
Bob
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