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Posted by Phillipa on May 1, 2021, at 9:25:46
Are there any scientists or virologists that can explain in vaccine for "dummbies" Language to me how these both mrna and viral vector vaccine work? I have read numerous explanations and still don't understand? Is it me ? Thanks Phillipa
Posted by beckett2 on May 3, 2021, at 18:11:19
In reply to Explain how this Mrna and viral vector vaccines ?, posted by Phillipa on May 1, 2021, at 9:25:46
> Are there any scientists or virologists that can explain in vaccine for "dummbies" Language to me how these both mrna and viral vector vaccine work? I have read numerous explanations and still don't understand? Is it me ? Thanks Phillipa
Does this page help?
Posted by Phillipa on May 3, 2021, at 20:19:49
In reply to Re: Explain how this Mrna and viral vector vaccines ?, posted by beckett2 on May 3, 2021, at 18:11:19
Beckett I hate to say it but not really. What happened to the T cells & where did an S come from Phillipa
Posted by SLS on May 7, 2021, at 9:45:33
In reply to Re: Explain how this Mrna and viral vector vaccines ? » beckett2, posted by Phillipa on May 3, 2021, at 20:19:49
The immune system is rather complex. Of course, the brain is exponentially more complex. To the best of man's knowledge, the human brain is the most complex object in the Universe.
mRNA vaccines:
mRNA is a chemical structure that that exits the nucleus of the cell, and is a reflection of the the DNA contained there. mRNA serves as the blueprint template for the construction of a specific protein (an amino acid sequence). In a naturally functioning cell, the amount of protein synthesized using these instructions is limited by the turning on and off of genes.
This is absolutely brilliant:
What if you were to inject copious amounts of a specific mRNA into the cytoplasm of a cell (as opposed to the nucleus)? The cell generates copious amounts of the protein that the mRNA encodes for. Effectively, that cell becomes a factory for the overproduction of the virus antigen - the spike protein in this case. When these tiny pieces of the virus protein are released into the blood stream by the hijacked cell, they stimulate the immune system to produce antibodies. Here, antibodies are a reflection of the viral protein antigen, and they bind to that part of the live virus that the vaccine mRNA encodes for. Antibodies can serve at least to purposes. One purpose is to stick to the virus and hold up a red flag so that the killer immune cells can locate the virus and consume it. Another way that an antibody can serve is to attach to a part of the virus that is necessary for the virus to function and kill healthy cells. With SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus, the site through which it enters the cell is through a receptor that normally functions to control blood pressure, inflammation, and wound-healing. This is the ACE-2 receptor. It is precisely this receptor through which the virus enters a healthy cell. By blocking the structure on the virus that it needs to bind to the ACE-2 receptor, the antibodies prevent cells from becoming infected.
- Scott
Posted by Phillipa on May 7, 2021, at 20:56:19
In reply to Re: Explain how this Mrna and viral vector vaccines ?, posted by SLS on May 7, 2021, at 9:45:33
Scott thanks you must have taken a lot of chemistry in school. Little by little this all is starting to make sense. Did you yourself get the mrna vaccine? If so which one? I sure wish they could test antibodies after vaccination to see how much protection each person has. Are you yourself doing better now? Phillipa
Posted by SLS on May 10, 2021, at 10:05:23
In reply to Re: Explain how this Mrna and viral vector vaccines ? » SLS, posted by Phillipa on May 7, 2021, at 20:56:19
> Scott thanks you must have taken a lot of chemistry in school. Little by little this all is starting to make sense. Did you yourself get the mrna vaccine?
Moderna
> I sure wish they could test antibodies after vaccination to see how much protection each person has. Are you yourself doing better now? Phillipa
That's a great idea!!!
- Scott
Posted by Lamdage22 on May 10, 2021, at 13:28:41
In reply to Re: Explain how this Mrna and viral vector vaccines ? » Phillipa, posted by SLS on May 10, 2021, at 10:05:23
There is a company offering that here but it doesn't seem legit. People are milking coronavirus.
Posted by stargazer2 on June 13, 2021, at 21:14:52
In reply to Explain how this Mrna and viral vector vaccines ?, posted by Phillipa on May 1, 2021, at 9:25:46
not related to medications so really should be posted in another category like social or alternative to keep these posts on medications which is my focus. Thanks Covid investigators, still trying to get help for depression as my primary diagnosis.
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