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Posted by linkadge on July 17, 2018, at 11:58:59
Apparently, optimal vitamin D levels lead to a reduction in serotonin transport and MAO-A levels.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30008960
Linadge
Posted by bleauberry on July 19, 2018, at 8:18:00
In reply to Vitamin D inhibits SERT and MAO-A, posted by linkadge on July 17, 2018, at 11:58:59
My cocktail of herbs and supplements (and antibiotic medications) includes 5000IU daily of Vitamin D. Based on the info you posted here, I wonder if that is playing a role in my improved condition? That said, I don't think any single component can do that. It takes an orchestra.
The only single thing I have ever seen get anyone totally cured was Nardil, and that only happens to a small percentage of people who try it.
Or in my case, antibiotics. Which would probably help a very l arg percentage of people who try it.This is interesting: I was very active outdoors in the sun all the time. And I took a vitamin with 100% D in it every day. And yet, when I had my blood tested, my D was only 25% of normal! I didn't realize, and most people today do not realize, that if you have a chronic illness such as unsuspected Lyme, then your body. may not be converting sunlight properly. In my case it definitely was not.
I got a weak immune system and fairly dangerous level of osteoporosis from having low D as a result of Lyme infection. That is actually one of the better tests out there for lyme - how much D is in the blood.
Posted by linkadge on July 19, 2018, at 10:55:38
In reply to Re: Vitamin D inhibits SERT and MAO-A, posted by bleauberry on July 19, 2018, at 8:18:00
I have been dealing with deep fatigue recently.
I sleep close to 10 hours and still wake up barely able to move.Some of it, is likely due to mirtazapine. However this is the only med that really helps me sleep.
I am experiementing with different supplements to try and reverse some of the fatigue. On the list are:
berberine,
activated b6,b12 and folic acid
PEA
Q10
Vitamin D.I am leaning towards a PEA deficit since both PEA and activated b6 (synthesizes PEA) seem to help.
Linkadge
Posted by rjlockhart37 on July 21, 2018, at 1:15:22
In reply to Vitamin D inhibits SERT and MAO-A, posted by linkadge on July 17, 2018, at 11:58:59
i've noticed vitamin D's effects...its not really noticeable, but it's subtle improvement is noted, you can tell a little bit
Posted by ed_uk2010 on July 21, 2018, at 15:52:03
In reply to Re: Vitamin D inhibits SERT and MAO-A, posted by bleauberry on July 19, 2018, at 8:18:00
>That is actually one of the better tests out there for lyme - how much D is in the blood.
It's not though is it. Seriously.
Posted by bleauberry on July 26, 2018, at 15:18:37
In reply to Re: Vitamin D inhibits SERT and MAO-A » bleauberry, posted by linkadge on July 19, 2018, at 10:55:38
I would steer you towards Rhodiola Rosea, Ashwaghanda, Eleuthero, or any product with a blend of a dozen or so adaptogens. I think the adaptogens are real good at improving quality of life, but most especially when there is fatigue and when there is anxiety or insomnia. Their mechanisms are many - agonists and antagonists simultaneously at many different sites in the body - so they tend to balance out whatever is out of balance.
Fatigue and anxiety are the two symptoms that usually improve with them.
They can be hard to get started. They can rock the boat. So I think it pays to start at a really low dose - lower than the lowest dose - and plan on taking some time to ramp up doses - think in terms of months instead of days or weeks. Should be able to get to full doses, or whatever doses feel good to you, in 3 months or less. They work gradually. More benefits at 6 months. More at 9 months. More at 1 1/2 years.
So I think the adaptogen strategy for you makes sense, for a variety of reasons I could write a book about.
Other than that I would focus on herbs - not supplements - that you can feel them helping you. That's just your own personal online research, scouting around, google searching, whatever, and experimentation with the things you find that are interesting.
The other stuff you are taking is good. I get those in a vitamin called Two-Per-Day by Life Extension that has so much good stuff in it. I love berberine.> I have been dealing with deep fatigue recently.
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