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Posted by elanor roosevelt on November 2, 2016, at 17:45:44
been here before but there is no preparation for it. what terrifies me is how bad i get sometimes to agree to go back on it. had to stop bc of ongoing GI problems that i think were originally triggered by the lexapro. i'm on a very limited diet, dealing with wicked arthritic pain in my knees and going through fits of rage and waking up so f*ck*ng angry at the world.
I daydream of mescaline. Although it's been many years. I keep thinking if only the world could look beautiful to me every now and then
Posted by SLS on November 2, 2016, at 18:10:10
In reply to Lexapro Withdrawal, posted by elanor roosevelt on November 2, 2016, at 17:45:44
> been here before but there is no preparation for it. what terrifies me is how bad i get sometimes to agree to go back on it. had to stop bc of ongoing GI problems that i think were originally triggered by the lexapro. i'm on a very limited diet, dealing with wicked arthritic pain in my knees and going through fits of rage and waking up so f*ck*ng angry at the world.
> I daydream of mescaline. Although it's been many years. I keep thinking if only the world could look beautiful to me every now and thenAre you looking for something to ease withdrawal symptoms? How have you managed it in the past?
- Scott
Posted by elanor roosevelt on November 4, 2016, at 0:45:22
In reply to Re: Lexapro Withdrawal » elanor roosevelt, posted by SLS on November 2, 2016, at 18:10:10
symptoms? How have you managed it in the past?
not well.
when the rage hits the only thing that will make a dent id 5mg of ambien
there are no more types of anti-depressants left that i haven't tried. Nowhere to go, nowhere to hide
Posted by Horse on November 4, 2016, at 1:13:44
In reply to Lexapro Withdrawal, posted by elanor roosevelt on November 2, 2016, at 17:45:44
Lyrica? Or gabapentin?
I know what you mean about a little beauty. Someone just posted about suboxone. Maybe given your trd, you'd qualify if you could find someone to prescribe. I wouldn't be able to make it without AD.
Posted by SLS on November 4, 2016, at 6:08:01
In reply to Re: Lexapro Withdrawal, posted by elanor roosevelt on November 4, 2016, at 0:45:22
> symptoms? How have you managed it in the past?
>
> not well.
> when the rage hits the only thing that will make a dent id 5mg of ambien
> there are no more types of anti-depressants left that i haven't tried. Nowhere to go, nowhere to hideAre you bipolar?
How often and how severe are your episodes of depression? (Chronic vs recurrent vs rapid-cycling).
How did you react to Wellbutrin?
Non-antidepressant treatment:
Trileptal (oxcarbazepine) and its cousin drug, Tegretol (carbamazepine), work well for impulse and anger issues, including rage attacks. I like Trileptal because it does not produce as much sedation as Tegretol. Also, with Tegretol, you would need to monitor the blood for agranulocytosis - inhibition of the bone marrow from producing immune white blood cells (granulocytes). I have seen someone with bipolar and anger issues do well on as combination of Trileptal + Lamictal (I don't know the doses) without an antidepressant. One can add low-dose lithium or Abilify (aripiprazole).
Interestingly, Trileptal can ease the withdrawal effects of alcohol and benzodiazepines. I am curious to know how effective it would be to aid in the withdrawal of SSRIs and SNRIs. If you choose to try Trileptal to treat your illness, you might want to add it now while you are withdrawing from Lexapro. Of course, you might find that the judicious use of a benzodiazepine will help with Lexapro withdrawal.
- Scott
Posted by elanor roosevelt on December 3, 2016, at 1:06:11
In reply to Re: Lexapro Withdrawal » elanor roosevelt, posted by SLS on November 4, 2016, at 6:08:01
have looked around online and find many people going on with this awful state for up to a year. It is, i think, both Lexapro withdrawal and general AD withdrwal. I have been through all types and categories of AD's and--god help me--the derangement i experience with all mood stabilizers.
These days I wake up in the morning and out loud tear myself apart in awful and hurtful ways. I wake up hating myself. I need a reset.
Posted by SLS on December 3, 2016, at 7:45:27
In reply to Lexapro Withdrawal:endless hell, posted by elanor roosevelt on December 3, 2016, at 1:06:11
> have looked around online and find many people going on with this awful state for up to a year.
That's pretty scary. You might try to use drugs that block 5-HT2a receptors to ease your discontinuation withdrawal syndrome.
- Atypical antipsychotics
- cyproheptadine (Periactin)
- mirtazapine (Remeron)I need a reset, too. I'm sure that exposure to all of these foreign compounds produced long-term changes in brain function and subsequent responsitivity to medication.
Did I already mention Trileptal (oxcarbazepine)?
What about Topamax (topiramate)?
I know you say that mood-stabilizers are counterproductive for you, but they each work so differently from one another. I know people who do well with Keppra (levetiracetam). One woman who was a rapid cycler and non-responsive to standard mood stabilizers went on to do well with Keppra monotherapy. I think you can find a paper on this written by Kenneth Kaufman.
Neurontin or Lyrica?
Depakote?
Benzodiazepines?
- Xanax (alprazolam) maybe? It is perhaps the worst BZD for addiction (not physiological dependency). However, it is also the one of the best for anxiety (not anxiety disorders) and depression.
- Klonopin (clonazepam) has some mood-stabilizing properties, but often leaaves one feeling mildly to moderately depressed.Trileptal has been shown to work well to treat withdrawal symptoms from discontinuing BZDs and alcohol.
- Scott
Posted by elanor roosevelt on December 4, 2016, at 1:49:15
In reply to Re: Lexapro Withdrawal:endless hell » elanor roosevelt, posted by SLS on December 3, 2016, at 7:45:27
You are always kind and helpful in your responses.
This time around it all seems to be been there done that.
i've planted san pedro cactus as my back-up plan.
Posted by Lamdage22 on January 10, 2017, at 13:45:51
In reply to Re: Lexapro Withdrawal:endless hell » elanor roosevelt, posted by SLS on December 3, 2016, at 7:45:27
Here is a great withdrawal website where you can talk with others that have gone or are going through the same thing.
http://www.survivingantidepressants.orgGood luck
Posted by creepy on August 14, 2017, at 2:06:14
In reply to Lexapro Withdrawal, posted by elanor roosevelt on November 2, 2016, at 17:45:44
your response sounds so much like my own on that med it makes me wonder...
Ive had GI issues, inflammation anfatigue d ever since taking that drug. Ive found wheat and dairy to make an episode of pain, inflammation and fatigue come on so I avoid those and it helps. Also make sure Im not not eating lots of carbohydrates and am eating lots of fiber.
I wonder if getting off SSRIs altogether might fix it.
I recently went 2 days without venlafaxine. Now THAT is a nasty discontinuation.
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