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Posted by ocean1 on October 29, 2016, at 22:40:14
dopamine is known as the main true feel good chemical.a study showed rialin alone riased dopamine and was more successful then ssris at depression.Wll they make a dopmine med,no addiction.Who cares if its addicting,the means people are turning to acholol cigs stuff like that to treat it are deadly.ssris to date hold a 450 thousand death rate,benzos almost none.
Posted by David1973 on October 30, 2016, at 5:35:55
In reply to dopamine, posted by ocean1 on October 29, 2016, at 22:40:14
I agree, increased dopamine levels for me blew away depression. It is interesting to see the new drugs in the pipeline - quite a few SNDRI's in there. Whether they work or not is another thing but at least it seems they are realising the importance of dopamine.
Posted by Christ_empowered on October 30, 2016, at 10:48:21
In reply to Re: dopamine, posted by David1973 on October 30, 2016, at 5:35:55
Back in the day, uppers were all the rage for varying degrees of depression. Amphetamines alone, amphetamines with sedatives ("Dexamyl," anyone?), amphetamines with neuroleptics ("ThoraDex," "Eskatrol," etc.). Ritalin was marketed heavily for some depressive states and for treating people on neuroleptics who needed something to counter the heavy sedation.
And then...well, in the 70s The FDA cracked down on stimulants (for a season...). Now, there's $$$ being made in "Adult ADD," which really looks a lot like what they used to consider milder depressive states with fatigue and inability to do what needed to be done. So...stimulants for depression never went away, but the diagnosis+labels did change. Such is the nature of psychiatry.
For whatever reason, the more "severe" your problems in psychiatry, the more noxious your "treatment." ADD=amphetamines, maybe Ritalin; depression= "antidepressants," many of which are like emotional novocaine; "Bipolar" and "Schizophrenia" often=neuroleptics, anti-epileptics, and the numbing "antidepressants." Oh, and shock treatments are making a comeback. Apparently, those of us with severe diagnoses don't need brain cells. Awesome.
I do hope psychiatry gets over its fear of euphoria or even just feeling good, at all. Shrinks, for whatever reason, seem to be a fairly Purtianical bunch...unless, of course, you're rich and going to a cash only doctor. That's much, much different.
Posted by ocean1 on October 30, 2016, at 12:35:22
In reply to Re: dopamine, posted by Christ_empowered on October 30, 2016, at 10:48:21
Right feel better but not GOOD is that even possable
Posted by baseball55 on October 30, 2016, at 18:20:50
In reply to Re: dopamine, posted by ocean1 on October 30, 2016, at 12:35:22
The problem with stimulants, including cocaine, is that they tend to be habituating. Many people then use higher and higher dosages more and more frequently to attain the same good feeling (aka high).
As a former addict, I have met many people in 12-step groups who were addicted to adderall or ritalin and some who graduated to snorting, then smoking, the shooting crystal meth. That's a feel good drug too. If you don't mind losing your teeth and destroying your health.
Opioids are also feel good drugs and most users become addicted and graduate to heroin and an early death.
Posted by Lou Pilder on October 30, 2016, at 18:44:19
In reply to Re: dopamine, posted by baseball55 on October 30, 2016, at 18:20:50
> The problem with stimulants, including cocaine, is that they tend to be habituating. Many people then use higher and higher dosages more and more frequently to attain the same good feeling (aka high).
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> As a former addict, I have met many people in 12-step groups who were addicted to adderall or ritalin and some who graduated to snorting, then smoking, the shooting crystal meth. That's a feel good drug too. If you don't mind losing your teeth and destroying your health.
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> Opioids are also feel good drugs and most users become addicted and graduate to heroin and an early death.bb55,
Thank you for posting what you did. You see, Mr. Hsiung and Scott and others want readers to to shun me here, which could cheat them out of knowing that these drugs can cause addiction, life ruining conditions and death.
But he and Scott are not telling readers to shun you or call you a troll. This could be the start of something big.
Lou
Posted by rjlockhart37 on October 30, 2016, at 23:43:01
In reply to dopamine, posted by ocean1 on October 29, 2016, at 22:40:14
dopamine plays a large part in motivational behaviors, reward, enthusiasm, and also with movement such as motor skills and critical thinking, dopamine has diffrent receptors, some dopamine is for pleasure and feeling in control, others it has diffrent effects, too much dopamine in some areas of the brain cause paranoia, and obsessive thinking.....even leading to insanity, but the nuerotransmission therories are still to be understood for later.....
people with higher dopamine levels can seem above the average baseline, you have enhanced perception, you can see things diffrently, but too much can lead to disorders, delusions in feeling superior or graduer.....but it also plays a large role in confidence, and getting things done
amphetmaine type stimulants increase these, and enhance motor skills, and speech
Posted by elanor roosevelt on December 10, 2016, at 0:39:20
In reply to Re: dopamine, posted by rjlockhart37 on October 30, 2016, at 23:43:01
besides stimulants, what's a good way to increase dopamine level?
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