Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 1088851

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Lou's Little Shoppe-open

Posted by Lou Pilder on May 11, 2016, at 20:30:47

Friends,
The door is always open. Come in and find peace to your souls. Here you could drink of the waters of life freely and be led back to the green fields that you used to know.
Here you could be delivered from addiction and depression and be freed from the shackles of your psychiatrist and the drugs that are pandered as medicines by many members here, when they do not treat a disease or cure.
If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, take this opportunity to have a new heart and a new spirit. Not like the one that the drugs have given you addiction and depression, but a heart that gives peace and joy. And those that come in here, I will in no wise cast out.
Lou

 

Re: to be happy

Posted by Tabitha on May 13, 2016, at 0:23:59

In reply to Lou's Little Shoppe-open, posted by Lou Pilder on May 11, 2016, at 20:30:47

> If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, take this opportunity [...]

If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is

 

Lou's reply-what is truth? » Tabitha

Posted by Lou Pilder on May 14, 2016, at 7:15:09

In reply to Re: to be happy, posted by Tabitha on May 13, 2016, at 0:23:59

> > If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, take this opportunity [...]
>
> If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is
>
> Tabitha,
But there is the possibility that it is true. The question can become, "What is truth?"
Lou

 

Re: what is truth?

Posted by Tabitha on May 14, 2016, at 12:52:48

In reply to Lou's reply-what is truth? » Tabitha, posted by Lou Pilder on May 14, 2016, at 7:15:09

> But there is the possibility that it is true.


Yes, there is a possibility that you know of a sure-fire method to create happiness for anyone for the rest of their life. But what is that possibility? I think it is very small. Evidence that your method is unlikely to be the secret of human happiness is
- Step 1 of your method is for people with mental illness to go off their medication. This is unwise.
- The method has been hyped repeatedly, yet we are told that it cannot be revealed. This leads people to suspect that no such method exists.
- The source of the method is a personal vision that you believe is of supernatural origin. Given the circumstances, it is more likely that the vision is a symptom of mental illness than a supernatural event.
- Throughout human history, people have promised systems to solve all personal problems forever. So far, no such system has proven successful. Such promises are made for the personal gain of those promoting the system.
- There is some evidence that happiness is more of a fixed personality trait than a result of individual choices. Thus the existence of a method to radically increase happiness for anyone, and particularly people who suffer conditions like depression, anxiety, and schizophrenia, is very unlikely.

> The question can become, "What is truth?"

I don't see the relevance of such a philosophical question to this context. It's more useful to weigh the probability that the claims being made are true, and then act accordingly. People could then
- accept that your system exists and works as described, and then feel frustrated that it has not been revealed.
- decide that any system you might have is not valuable, and ignore your repeated entreaties.
- debate or argue with you
- condemn you

None of these seem like good outcomes, or in line with the purpose of this board.

 

Lou's reply-irrelevant conclusion? » Tabitha

Posted by Lou Pilder on May 14, 2016, at 13:08:49

In reply to Re: what is truth?, posted by Tabitha on May 14, 2016, at 12:52:48

> > But there is the possibility that it is true.
>
>
> Yes, there is a possibility that you know of a sure-fire method to create happiness for anyone for the rest of their life. But what is that possibility? I think it is very small. Evidence that your method is unlikely to be the secret of human happiness is
> - Step 1 of your method is for people with mental illness to go off their medication. This is unwise.
> - The method has been hyped repeatedly, yet we are told that it cannot be revealed. This leads people to suspect that no such method exists.
> - The source of the method is a personal vision that you believe is of supernatural origin. Given the circumstances, it is more likely that the vision is a symptom of mental illness than a supernatural event.
> - Throughout human history, people have promised systems to solve all personal problems forever. So far, no such system has proven successful. Such promises are made for the personal gain of those promoting the system.
> - There is some evidence that happiness is more of a fixed personality trait than a result of individual choices. Thus the existence of a method to radically increase happiness for anyone, and particularly people who suffer conditions like depression, anxiety, and schizophrenia, is very unlikely.
>
> > The question can become, "What is truth?"
>
> I don't see the relevance of such a philosophical question to this context. It's more useful to weigh the probability that the claims being made are true, and then act accordingly. People could then
> - accept that your system exists and works as described, and then feel frustrated that it has not been revealed.
> - decide that any system you might have is not valuable, and ignore your repeated entreaties.
> - debate or argue with you
> - condemn you
>
> None of these seem like good outcomes, or in line with the purpose of this board.

Tabitha,
You wrote that step one was to go off all medication. There are some people that could kill themselves if they did that. So that would not be the first step.
You wrote that I can not post the method here which is true due to the prohibitions to me by Mr. Hsiung. Why would people think that because of his prohibitions to me that no such method exists?
Lou

 

Re: irrelevant conclusion?

Posted by Tabitha on May 14, 2016, at 15:19:29

In reply to Lou's reply-irrelevant conclusion? » Tabitha, posted by Lou Pilder on May 14, 2016, at 13:08:49


> You wrote that step one was to go off all medication. There are some people that could kill themselves if they did that. So that would not be the first step.

I'm surprised to hear you say that stopping medication might lead to suicide, since I recall you arguing against the idea that medication reduces the risk of suicide. Anyway, I am glad to hear that you don't advocate immediately stopping medication.

> You wrote that I can not post the method here which is true due to the prohibitions to me by Mr. Hsiung. Why would people think that because of his prohibitions to me that no such method exists?


It's just a bit suspicious to hear over and over about a method, without more information. What do you expect people to do with the idea, if they can't access it? It seems if you really wanted, you could find a way to share it, such as posting it on another website and directing people there.

 

Lou's reply-never again » Tabitha

Posted by Lou Pilder on May 14, 2016, at 16:43:37

In reply to Re: irrelevant conclusion?, posted by Tabitha on May 14, 2016, at 15:19:29

>
> > You wrote that step one was to go off all medication. There are some people that could kill themselves if they did that. So that would not be the first step.
>
> I'm surprised to hear you say that stopping medication might lead to suicide, since I recall you arguing against the idea that medication reduces the risk of suicide. Anyway, I am glad to hear that you don't advocate immediately stopping medication.
>
> > You wrote that I can not post the method here which is true due to the prohibitions to me by Mr. Hsiung. Why would people think that because of his prohibitions to me that no such method exists?
>
>
> It's just a bit suspicious to hear over and over about a method, without more information. What do you expect people to do with the idea, if they can't access it? It seems if you really wanted, you could find a way to share it, such as posting it on another website and directing people there.
>
> Tabitha,
The drugs promoted here do not prevent suicide but they increase suicidal thinking.. Stopping the drugs could lead the drugger into a realm of such horror that they kill themselves. And these drugs are legal to be sold.
When I lead the person to the Spirit of Truth, healing sets in and then they have the power to overcome and are released from the bondage of the psychiatrist and his/her drugs. The healing is spiritual healing that regenerates the heart to recover the lost humanity taken away from them by the psychiatrist and their drugs.
This comes from a Jewish perspective as revealed to me and is prohibited by Mr. Hsiung for me to post here. Yet today. anti-Semitic propaganda and slander against me is permitted by him for those to have immunity from his enforcement rules and that he says it will be good for him and his community as a whole in his thinking for him to allow this hatred to be thrown at me over and over, which is malicious in his intent for he admits it could cause me harm and is allowing it anyway.
He also has another prohibition to me that I can not post a link to lead you to what is prohibited for me to post here. Since the prohibitions are directed to me, and they are against Judaism and the Jew, the prohibitions by that understanding are anti-Semitic prohibitions just like that was done in European Fascism where laws were made strictly against the Jews. So this is nothing new, but an old way to arouse anti-Semitic feelings to show that the non-Jews being allowed to break his rules while I am subject to them, creates and develops two classes of people, one class being the preferred class, and the other being the outsider. That is how anti-Semitic animus is created and developed in a community. This is what segregation and slavery and genocide comes from, that type of thinking, the thinking that it will be good for the community to deny one class the equal protection of the laws.
Never again
Lou


 

Re: never again

Posted by Tabitha on May 14, 2016, at 17:39:08

In reply to Lou's reply-never again » Tabitha, posted by Lou Pilder on May 14, 2016, at 16:43:37

So, Lou, how can you lead people to the Spirit of Truth when there are prohibitions against you revealing your perspective?

And, even if you could reveal the Truth, wouldn't the anti-Semitic sentiment here prevent people from believing you?

 

Lou's reply-their blood » Tabitha

Posted by Lou Pilder on May 14, 2016, at 19:12:21

In reply to Re: never again, posted by Tabitha on May 14, 2016, at 17:39:08

> So, Lou, how can you lead people to the Spirit of Truth when there are prohibitions against you revealing your perspective?
>
> And, even if you could reveal the Truth, wouldn't the anti-Semitic sentiment here prevent people from believing you?

Tabitha,
[...the anti-Semitic sentiment would prevent people from believing you?...].
Anti-Semitism means against the Jew. When rules are made with that in mind, it becomes a tool of humiliation. This is why discrimination and segregation and isolation are such terrible tools of a psychiatrist. Used here in denying me equal protection of his rules, causes humiliation and could arouse hatred toward me as his target person. And then the four horseman of hate here post with impunity more defamation here against me with impunity driving people's minds into the cesspool of hate as readers see that it is being supportive according to the psychiatrist. That is a powerful influence to inject the poison of hate into the minds of children reading here that could give them a lifetime of misery and an early death. Their blood will not be upon me
Lou


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