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Posted by Horse on September 9, 2015, at 16:31:47
In case anyone is curious about Brintellix, I can report doing well. I experienced a significant difference jumping from 10 mg to 20 mg. I've been depressed for a long time, and I think I'm unwinding the depression.... Does that make any sense? Remission is a slower process than I had anticipated. On Brintellix, I feel that I'm uncovering pockets of well being I had long forgotten. It's kinda weird. I feel more clear headed. That, and anorgasmia is gone.
I certainly reccomend it as a treatment option.
Posted by europerep on September 9, 2015, at 17:34:27
In reply to Continued positive effects from Brintellix, posted by Horse on September 9, 2015, at 16:31:47
Sorry if you have already said it somewhere above, but could you just briefly say on what antidepressants you have been before and what degree of success you had with them? That would be very interesting to know...
thanks, and (more) good luck of course with your trial!
Posted by SLS on September 9, 2015, at 17:49:36
In reply to Continued positive effects from Brintellix, posted by Horse on September 9, 2015, at 16:31:47
> In case anyone is curious about Brintellix, I can report doing well. I experienced a significant difference jumping from 10 mg to 20 mg. I've been depressed for a long time, and I think I'm unwinding the depression.... Does that make any sense? Remission is a slower process than I had anticipated. On Brintellix, I feel that I'm uncovering pockets of well being I had long forgotten. It's kinda weird. I feel more clear headed. That, and anorgasmia is gone.
>
> I certainly reccomend it as a treatment option.I wish I weren't taking Parnate, or I would start taking Brintellix tomorrow. If I see more stories like yours and my doctor sees robust and persistent results with other TRD patients, I might then go ahead and make the switch.
Thanks for being such a good reporter, Horse.
- Scott
Posted by Horse on September 9, 2015, at 20:13:28
In reply to Re: Continued positive effects from Brintellix » Horse, posted by europerep on September 9, 2015, at 17:34:27
Right before Brintellix, I was taking Lexapro, which was ok. Prior to that, I had maybe three years without an ssri. I tried emsam during this period.
Three years before the above, I tried pristiq, cymbalta, Prozac, Lexapro (again). Then before that, over a five year period, Zoloft, Wellbutrin, Effexor, celexa.
I credit the other meds I take: lamictal and lyrica. No one dx'd bipolar despite self report, so most of this was without a mood stabilizer.
Also key is my withdrawal from ten years of Xanax.
So there are a few pieces to my response, I think. Like a rubic cube or something....
Fingers crossed for you and me and everyone.....
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 10, 2015, at 4:26:53
In reply to Continued positive effects from Brintellix, posted by Horse on September 9, 2015, at 16:31:47
> In case anyone is curious about Brintellix, I can report doing well. I experienced a significant difference jumping from 10 mg to 20 mg. I've been depressed for a long time, and I think I'm unwinding the depression.... Does that make any sense? Remission is a slower process than I had anticipated. On Brintellix, I feel that I'm uncovering pockets of well being I had long forgotten. It's kinda weird. I feel more clear headed. That, and anorgasmia is gone.
>
> I certainly reccomend it as a treatment option.Friends,
Be not deceived. The post here is called a testimonial based on anecdotal that is promoting a drug in disregard to the FDA rules for such. This could lead to your death or the death of anyone that you are in charge of to drug them in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor. The FDA rules are very clear in respect to promoting a drug in any media. Here, the post is misleading in that it presents claims of efficacy but does not post any disclosure of any risk information associated with taking the drug and worse, leaves out material facts. This is all against the rules of the FDA which could mislead readers to think that there are no harmful effects at all associated with taking the drug being promoted and readers could be misled to believe that the drug is safer than it really is.
The research today shows that efficacy from these drugs could be from the placebo effect and that could be good in going forward, but the taker of the drug could be killed by the drug somewhere along the way. And worse, the drug could induce suicidal thoughts so that any initial placebo effect could actually worsen the person's condition , for they could be deceived to think that they are getting better, but in reality their inner condition is being masked temporarily so that they become fooled into thinking that the drug is helping them, all the time turning the screw of addiction into them unbeknownst that the drug could cause a life-ruining condition or death.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 10, 2015, at 5:05:28
In reply to Lou's urgent warning-be not deceived » Horse, posted by Lou Pilder on September 10, 2015, at 4:26:53
> > In case anyone is curious about Brintellix, I can report doing well. I experienced a significant difference jumping from 10 mg to 20 mg. I've been depressed for a long time, and I think I'm unwinding the depression.... Does that make any sense? Remission is a slower process than I had anticipated. On Brintellix, I feel that I'm uncovering pockets of well being I had long forgotten. It's kinda weird. I feel more clear headed. That, and anorgasmia is gone.
> >
> > I certainly reccomend it as a treatment option.
>
> Friends,
> Be not deceived. The post here is called a testimonial based on anecdotal that is promoting a drug in disregard to the FDA rules for such. This could lead to your death or the death of anyone that you are in charge of to drug them in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor. The FDA rules are very clear in respect to promoting a drug in any media. Here, the post is misleading in that it presents claims of efficacy but does not post any disclosure of any risk information associated with taking the drug and worse, leaves out material facts. This is all against the rules of the FDA which could mislead readers to think that there are no harmful effects at all associated with taking the drug being promoted and readers could be misled to believe that the drug is safer than it really is.
> The research today shows that efficacy from these drugs could be from the placebo effect and that could be good in going forward, but the taker of the drug could be killed by the drug somewhere along the way. And worse, the drug could induce suicidal thoughts so that any initial placebo effect could actually worsen the person's condition , for they could be deceived to think that they are getting better, but in reality their inner condition is being masked temporarily so that they become fooled into thinking that the drug is helping them, all the time turning the screw of addiction into them unbeknownst that the drug could cause a life-ruining condition or death.
> LouFriends,
The propaganda used by the drug manufacturers, those that prescribe the drugs and any others that traffic in these drugs use persuasive tactics that are not new, but old-time carnival deceptions that have fooled humanity for thousands of years. These tactics such as {getting on the bandwagon} and others all rely on the person's ignorance and if the promoters of these drugs can keep you ignorant, or use deception, you could jump on the bandwagon easily along with the others. But the wagon could be taking you down the road to your death.
Here is a report concerning this drug called "Brintellix", a catchy word made up by the masterminds of merchandising. Let us reason together.
Lou
http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/why-new-antidepressant-brintellix-may-be-a-killer/
Posted by SLS on September 10, 2015, at 6:40:51
In reply to Re: Continued positive effects from Brintellix » europerep, posted by Horse on September 9, 2015, at 20:13:28
I noticed that you did not list Viibryd (vilazodone). Before returning to Parnate several years ago, I responded positively to Viibryd for about a week. A week might not seem significant to many people, but in my case, any movement towards improvement at all is significant. The reason I ask about Viibryd is that it shares some properties with Brintellix. For me, Viibryd was very clean. I experienced no cognitive or sexual side effects.
I currently take six drugs to treat bipolar depression. I have tried to either discontinue or reduce the dosage of each one to test for its necessity in my regime or to determine its optimum dosage.
Parnate 120 mg/day
nortriptyline 100 mg/day
Lamictal 300 mg/day
lithium 300 mg/day
Abilify 10 mg/day
prazosin 30 mg/day
- Scott
Posted by FloydAS on September 10, 2015, at 7:07:55
In reply to Re: Continued positive effects from Brintellix » Horse, posted by SLS on September 9, 2015, at 17:49:36
> > In case anyone is curious about Brintellix, I can report doing well. I experienced a significant difference jumping from 10 mg to 20 mg. I've been depressed for a long time, and I think I'm unwinding the depression.... Does that make any sense? Remission is a slower process than I had anticipated. On Brintellix, I feel that I'm uncovering pockets of well being I had long forgotten. It's kinda weird. I feel more clear headed. That, and anorgasmia is gone.
> >
> > I certainly reccomend it as a treatment option.
>
> I wish I weren't taking Parnate, or I would start taking Brintellix tomorrow. If I see more stories like yours and my doctor sees robust and persistent results with other TRD patients, I might then go ahead and make the switch.
>
> Thanks for being such a good reporter, Horse.
>
>
> - ScottAs I stated in previous posts, I'm now on 20 mg of Brintellix. It is much more effective in relieving my GAD and related symptoms than any dosage of Zoloft that I was on (and I tried every dosage available). The cognitive improvements are real, at least for me, as I've been on Focalin XR 10 mg for a few years PRN and have needed much less of it since taking Brintellix. My PRN usage of Xanax XR has virtually disappeared which should tell you something.
My only remaining concern is my remaining lower leveling of mood and lower leveling of sexual desire that I'm willing to give more time and discuss on continued follow ups with my pdoc.
Posted by SLS on September 10, 2015, at 7:20:02
In reply to Re: Continued positive effects from Brintellix, posted by FloydAS on September 10, 2015, at 7:07:55
Hi.
I cannot stress enough that for some people, a high-quality improvement in depression can take months rather than weeks in order to emerge. It can be a very gradual process. This is probably most true with people who are generally treatment-resistant or who have already been exposed to multiple antidepressant medications.
Stay positive.
Good luck.
- Scott
Posted by Tomatheus on September 10, 2015, at 13:21:44
In reply to Continued positive effects from Brintellix, posted by Horse on September 9, 2015, at 16:31:47
Horse,
I just wanted to thank you for sharing your Brintellix experience with us. It's great to hear that you're benefiting from Brintellix, especially given what you wrote about having been depressed for a long time, and I for one appreciate the fact that you've taken the time to let us know that you seem to be benefiting from the medication that you're taking. I wish you much luck as you continue on with your treatment.
Tomatheus
Posted by europerep on September 14, 2015, at 16:11:07
In reply to Re: Continued positive effects from Brintellix » europerep, posted by Horse on September 9, 2015, at 20:13:28
Hey there,
thanks for that brief recap of your previous treatments. It's interesting that you have been on various SSRIs (almost all of them in fact) before...
In any case I wish you (more) good luck , and like the others have said, it's cool that you're posting updates on how you're doing with vortioxetine!
ER
Posted by read my mind on September 15, 2015, at 16:26:49
In reply to Re: Continued positive effects from Brintellix » Horse, posted by europerep on September 14, 2015, at 16:11:07
After almost 20 years I recently gave up on my 300mg's of Effexor XR and switched to 20 mg of Brintellix. My experiences are much like those of Horse. Parts of me have resurfaced and it's like greeting old friends. My husband and pdoc are both tickled pink. I have been on Brintellix for 2 wks today, and my pdoc expects things to get even better. Here's to you, Horse!
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