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Posted by Jeroen on July 28, 2015, at 15:23:54
i was talking to people in therapy, and it suddenly happened, while breathing the intense pain in my chest (heart) not lungs. it lasted for about 12-15 minutes im not sure and its caused by seroquel i had it before 1 year ago, and i am so scared to get it again and it happened today
does anyone know what adverse effect this is. I am starting to believe Lou is telling the truth about meds, i have nothing but bad things happening!!!!
Posted by linkadge on July 28, 2015, at 16:40:32
In reply to had some sort of heart attack today at 3 PM, posted by Jeroen on July 28, 2015, at 15:23:54
You need to go to the hospital and get checked out. Please go ASAP.
Linkadge
Posted by rjlockhart37 on July 28, 2015, at 20:02:09
In reply to Re: had some sort of heart attack today at 3 PM, posted by linkadge on July 28, 2015, at 16:40:32
do breathing, and stretch part of your chest where the pain is......that's a quick thing to do,
but you need to go back and tell your doctor about what just happened, maybe they can get you on a similar med to seroquel that will not cause this
r
Posted by baseball55 on July 28, 2015, at 21:07:28
In reply to had some sort of heart attack today at 3 PM, posted by Jeroen on July 28, 2015, at 15:23:54
If you think you had a heart attack, you should go to a medical hospital without delay. There are blood tests to show whether you have or have not. But I have to tell you, I periodically get severe chest pain right in the center of my chest. It might last half-an-hour. The first time it happened, I was stuck in traffic and thought I would die of a heart attack. Then I burped and the pain went away.
Now, I gulp water when it happens (and it happens a lot and is scary and painful) to force myself to burp. Air bubbles can get stuck in your esophagus and feel exactly like a heart attack. Best solution is to eat or drink something rapidly to dislodge the bubble. This has nothing to do with psych drugs, if that's what it is. The problem started many years before I ever took a med.
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 29, 2015, at 6:12:27
In reply to had some sort of heart attack today at 3 PM, posted by Jeroen on July 28, 2015, at 15:23:54
> i was talking to people in therapy, and it suddenly happened, while breathing the intense pain in my chest (heart) not lungs. it lasted for about 12-15 minutes im not sure and its caused by seroquel i had it before 1 year ago, and i am so scared to get it again and it happened today
>
> does anyone know what adverse effect this is. I am starting to believe Lou is telling the truth about meds, i have nothing but bad things happening!!!!Jeroen and friends,
It is written here,[...I am starting to believe Lou is telling the truth about (the drugs being promoted here). I have nothing but bad things happening...].
It is refreshing to see that the light that I have been trying to have shine in a dark place is penetrating the mind of one here in spite of the continual attempts here to decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which I am held and induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings toward me and Jews by the allowing of hateful messages being allowed to be seen here as supportive and worse, that by allowing the messages against my character it will in Mr. Hsiung's thinking to be good for his community as a whole. I do not think so, and in fact, I think that by the allowing of anti-Semitic propaganda and the defamation against me to be seen here as being supportive, that by doing that, you could be killed by the drugs being promoted here as "medicines". This is all because that light that I am trying so hard here to shine in a dark place that I think could save your life, is being shaded to come in here by the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. Hsiung while all the while he himself posts the swastika and refuses to take it down, all contrary to his own stated rules to me here, and I am trying to lift the veil shading the light.
It is too late for those that have already been killed by the drugs being promoted here as "medicines". Their dreams have ended. But you reading here have a chance to allow the light to shine in your hearts for you to be freed from the bondage of these addicting drugs being promoted here as "medicines". Drugs that could cause your heart to stop. Drugs that could cause you to kill yourself. Drugs that could kill your liver and you could die. Drugs that could give you diabetes. Drugs that could decrease your mental capacity to think and drive down your intelligence level. Drugs that could give you an addiction so horrific that during the withdrawal you could want to not only kill yourself, but commit mass-murder as well and even kill your own family members. And that could be the beginning of sorrows. For after death it has been revealed to me that (redacted by respondent) all because of the Great Deception that I am prohibited to post about here by Mr. Hsiung. Nor could I post about the historical relationship between psychiatry and mass-murder, but Mr. Hsiung can post pictures reminding the Jews of the horrors of Nazism all in his thinking that by him doing so it will be good for this community as a whole. Never again.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 29, 2015, at 7:26:36
In reply to Lou's response-hoarzofnhazm » Jeroen, posted by Lou Pilder on July 29, 2015, at 6:12:27
> > i was talking to people in therapy, and it suddenly happened, while breathing the intense pain in my chest (heart) not lungs. it lasted for about 12-15 minutes im not sure and its caused by seroquel i had it before 1 year ago, and i am so scared to get it again and it happened today
> >
> > does anyone know what adverse effect this is. I am starting to believe Lou is telling the truth about meds, i have nothing but bad things happening!!!!
>
> Jeroen and friends,
> It is written here,[...I am starting to believe Lou is telling the truth about (the drugs being promoted here). I have nothing but bad things happening...].
> It is refreshing to see that the light that I have been trying to have shine in a dark place is penetrating the mind of one here in spite of the continual attempts here to decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which I am held and induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings toward me and Jews by the allowing of hateful messages being allowed to be seen here as supportive and worse, that by allowing the messages against my character it will in Mr. Hsiung's thinking to be good for his community as a whole. I do not think so, and in fact, I think that by the allowing of anti-Semitic propaganda and the defamation against me to be seen here as being supportive, that by doing that, you could be killed by the drugs being promoted here as "medicines". This is all because that light that I am trying so hard here to shine in a dark place that I think could save your life, is being shaded to come in here by the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. Hsiung while all the while he himself posts the swastika and refuses to take it down, all contrary to his own stated rules to me here, and I am trying to lift the veil shading the light.
> It is too late for those that have already been killed by the drugs being promoted here as "medicines". Their dreams have ended. But you reading here have a chance to allow the light to shine in your hearts for you to be freed from the bondage of these addicting drugs being promoted here as "medicines". Drugs that could cause your heart to stop. Drugs that could cause you to kill yourself. Drugs that could kill your liver and you could die. Drugs that could give you diabetes. Drugs that could decrease your mental capacity to think and drive down your intelligence level. Drugs that could give you an addiction so horrific that during the withdrawal you could want to not only kill yourself, but commit mass-murder as well and even kill your own family members. And that could be the beginning of sorrows. For after death it has been revealed to me that (redacted by respondent) all because of the Great Deception that I am prohibited to post about here by Mr. Hsiung. Nor could I post about the historical relationship between psychiatry and mass-murder, but Mr. Hsiung can post pictures reminding the Jews of the horrors of Nazism all in his thinking that by him doing so it will be good for this community as a whole. Never again.
> Lou
>
Friends,
I come here to have the truth that could save your lives revealed to you here. But the tactic of spreading enmity against the Jews as being allowed here to be seen as supportive, stops the light from penetrating your hearts. The members are allowed here to be incited against me as a Jew by allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to be promoted here as being supportive and that by allowing the hate, it will be good in Mr. Hsiung's thinking for the community as a whole.
By allowing the fomenting of hatred toward the Jews here in the form of allowing anti-Semitic propaganda and slander of me, there could be an organized agenda to keep you from seeing the truth of what I post here by portraying me as an enemy to bring harm to this community. But the real enemy is all the lies about the Jews being allowed to be promoted here as supportive. Ignorant people can believe the lies and slander against me that are allowed to be spread here about me and the Jews. I am trying to open the eyes of even the ignorant here that have been made ignorant by the drugs being allowed to be promoted here as "medicines". Shame on those here that prevent me from saving your life by slandering me and the Jews thinking that it is being validated by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record because what is not sanctioned could be considered to be not against his rules and worse, supportive and will be good for the community as a whole in his thinking.
This is nothing new. This has been done for centuries to persuade the people to hate and blame the Jews. But I am prevented by Mr. Hsiung from posting the truth about this but he can post the swastika and pictures that could remind the Jews of the horrors of Nazism and also remind me of what is in his thinking that will be good for this community as a whole by refusing to take down the swastika that he posted.
Here is a video showing the historical tactics used against the Jews in a community to cast blame upon them for the real or imagined ills of the country. See if you can see those tactics being used here against me and the Jews.
Lou
To see this video, bring up Google and type in:
[ youtube, i0ljxQsgUM4 ]
the character after the first letter is a zero and the next character is a small "el". The video is usually first and depicts Lenin.
Posted by Jeroen on July 29, 2015, at 7:28:31
In reply to Lou's response-hoarzofnhazm » Jeroen, posted by Lou Pilder on July 29, 2015, at 6:12:27
thanks Lou, pdoc said it's not from the meds lol crazy enough another pdoc said it was, they are all insane!
Thanks Lou, your friend Jeroen
Posted by SLS on July 29, 2015, at 8:41:21
In reply to had some sort of heart attack today at 3 PM, posted by Jeroen on July 28, 2015, at 15:23:54
Why didn't you get medical help immediately if you were so concerned? Why would you waste time posting on Psycho-Babble and depending on the input of laymen like me? If you were having a heart attack, your decision could have cost you your life.
Gas pockets can cause sharp pains when breathing in. This is not particularly dangerous. However, after the fact, it would be difficult for a doctor to diagnose this pain without taking tests to verify heart attack. If you continue to be concerned, talk to a doctor and have an EKG (ECG) taken. Blood tests can help verify heart attack, too, but I don't know how long after the event they are valid for. You may have waited too long.
It is unfortunate that most psychiatric drugs have side effects; with some having additional health risks. What alternatives are you now considering? What kinds of psychotherapy have you had? What kinds of psychotherapy are available?
Are you allowed to stop taking all medication?
I'm glad that you place so much faith in the writings of Lou Pilder. You might want to ask Mr. Pilder what type of psychotherapy he would recommend - if any. I would be interested to know how he answers this question. Perhaps your best choice is to discontinue all medication and exchange email addresses with Mr. Pilder so that he can reveal to you his version of the Jewish perspective and how the miracles of his divine visions can cure you. At least you can separate yourself from the antisemitism and pro-Nazi influences that Pilder insists exist on Psycho-Babble.
What do you think?
- Scott
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 29, 2015, at 16:37:13
In reply to Re: had some sort of heart attack today at 3 PM » Jeroen, posted by SLS on July 29, 2015, at 8:41:21
> Why didn't you get medical help immediately if you were so concerned? Why would you waste time posting on Psycho-Babble and depending on the input of laymen like me? If you were having a heart attack, your decision could have cost you your life.
>
> Gas pockets can cause sharp pains when breathing in. This is not particularly dangerous. However, after the fact, it would be difficult for a doctor to diagnose this pain without taking tests to verify heart attack. If you continue to be concerned, talk to a doctor and have an EKG (ECG) taken. Blood tests can help verify heart attack, too, but I don't know how long after the event they are valid for. You may have waited too long.
>
> It is unfortunate that most psychiatric drugs have side effects; with some having additional health risks. What alternatives are you now considering? What kinds of psychotherapy have you had? What kinds of psychotherapy are available?
>
> Are you allowed to stop taking all medication?
>
> I'm glad that you place so much faith in the writings of Lou Pilder. You might want to ask Mr. Pilder what type of psychotherapy he would recommend - if any. I would be interested to know how he answers this question. Perhaps your best choice is to discontinue all medication and exchange email addresses with Mr. Pilder so that he can reveal to you his version of the Jewish perspective and how the miracles of his divine visions can cure you. At least you can separate yourself from the antisemitism and pro-Nazi influences that Pilder insists exist on Psycho-Babble.
>
> What do you think?
>
>
> - ScottScott,
You wrote about the anti-Semitism and pro-Nazi influences that you say that I insist exist here on this forum.
Could you list some of those? If you are wanting to mean that there are not those influences of pro-Nazism or anti-Semitism existing on this forum, could you state that and then post a comment as to why the posting of the swastika by Mr. Hsiung and refusing to take it down by Mr. Hsiung which could mean that he thinks that it will be god for this community as a whole to leave it to be seen as supportive by him, is not posting a pro-Nazi influence?
Lou
Posted by phidippus on August 5, 2015, at 11:37:22
In reply to had some sort of heart attack today at 3 PM, posted by Jeroen on July 28, 2015, at 15:23:54
You had a panic attack.
Eric
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