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Posted by alexcanada on March 12, 2013, at 3:33:53
Hi. I really need to go on a proper anti-dep for my severe melancholic dep. I've been becoming a bit too vegetative and mindless. Like some zombie. So difficult to think most of the time. Without gabapentin I'm not sure I'd be even posting this. I currently take ritalin total 5mg a day and valium 2.5mg a day but trying to taper very slowly.
I have a few options. My pdoc has had me on various things including parnate, paxil, nardil, wellbutrin and about 2 dozen others in the past. Most success I've had were with paxil and then years later on parnate. Both of which i stopped due to loss of effect. Ritalin and benzos have also helped somewhat.
How would Ludiomil compare vs prozac? Prozac might be the only popular ssri I have never taken. zoloft i felt like a zombie. celexa drove anxiety really high but i was in a very severe state at that time 9 years ago.
it has been very hard to find detailed online experiences for ludiomil.
I am worried about potential harsh side effects. My doc told me it was a harsh med but I forget the rest of the details.
Prozac I am more likely to try. I hate numbing effect of ssris but paxil gave me some kind of life at least. I was able to speak to people, have a few small interests, some small emotion, was doing a few activities, was able to make some friends. Parnate was a bit similar. I also had some partial response to risperidone in terms of ability to enjoy things slightly, as well as some benefit from wellbutrin, and stablon.
Please share your experiences or any advice/information. I have been having an intensely difficult time this winter and trying out Licorice root, magnesium cirtrate, resveratrol, l-tyrosine, l-tyrpophan, borage oil etc at various times has only helped me on a very minor level and/or made me worse.
I absolutely need to make a huge change in my life. Most of the time it is too difficult to get out of bed!! I have almost no drive, motivation, interest in anything.
Posted by ChicagoKat on March 18, 2013, at 17:21:43
In reply to Prozac or Ludiomil/Maprotiline experiences??, posted by alexcanada on March 12, 2013, at 3:33:53
Hi Alex,
Sorry, I am replying to all of your posts several days late! Did you make a decision as to which antidepressant to try? I have never taken Maprotiline, and I am wondering if I should perhaps give it a go. But I can tell you that, to me, Prozac was a miracle drug. But then, it was the first antidepressant I had ever taken. However, it did give me energy (but not too much, ie no anxiety), it made me feel happy with peace of mind, made me more confident and all kinds of good things. But that was, of course, before it pooped out on me. :(
I'd really be interested to hear what you try!
Kat> Hi. I really need to go on a proper anti-dep for my severe melancholic dep. I've been becoming a bit too vegetative and mindless. Like some zombie. So difficult to think most of the time. Without gabapentin I'm not sure I'd be even posting this. I currently take ritalin total 5mg a day and valium 2.5mg a day but trying to taper very slowly.
>
> I have a few options. My pdoc has had me on various things including parnate, paxil, nardil, wellbutrin and about 2 dozen others in the past. Most success I've had were with paxil and then years later on parnate. Both of which i stopped due to loss of effect. Ritalin and benzos have also helped somewhat.
>
> How would Ludiomil compare vs prozac? Prozac might be the only popular ssri I have never taken. zoloft i felt like a zombie. celexa drove anxiety really high but i was in a very severe state at that time 9 years ago.
>
> it has been very hard to find detailed online experiences for ludiomil.
>
> I am worried about potential harsh side effects. My doc told me it was a harsh med but I forget the rest of the details.
>
> Prozac I am more likely to try. I hate numbing effect of ssris but paxil gave me some kind of life at least. I was able to speak to people, have a few small interests, some small emotion, was doing a few activities, was able to make some friends. Parnate was a bit similar. I also had some partial response to risperidone in terms of ability to enjoy things slightly, as well as some benefit from wellbutrin, and stablon.
>
> Please share your experiences or any advice/information. I have been having an intensely difficult time this winter and trying out Licorice root, magnesium cirtrate, resveratrol, l-tyrosine, l-tyrpophan, borage oil etc at various times has only helped me on a very minor level and/or made me worse.
>
> I absolutely need to make a huge change in my life. Most of the time it is too difficult to get out of bed!! I have almost no drive, motivation, interest in anything.
Posted by alexcanada on March 19, 2013, at 9:52:42
In reply to Re: Prozac or Ludiomil/Maprotiline experiences?? » alexcanada, posted by ChicagoKat on March 18, 2013, at 17:21:43
Hi. Happy to hear it worked for you even if it did not last. How many good months/years did you have on it?
I got a prescription for Clomipramine. I likely will start taking it within a week once I figure out more closely what my baseline is by likely sticking to just ritalin and valium.
Gabapentin I might be quitting too. It's pro-social in a way and can provide an easy going type of feeling but I think much of the benefit is from it giving some ''high''. It negatively impacts my cognition on a significant level. I am thinking more clearly today without it. But I wonder if it has built up in my system a bit and thus helping me since I normally cannot bring myself to post on forums or reply even. Though perhaps part of why it may have impaired my cognition could be from it's increase of valium effect.
Prozac is likely my 2nd option if Clomipramine fails. It's difficult to even comprehend or imagine what it feels like to be better. I cannot remember emotions. I don't recall what the positive paxil days were like. But I know I had more of a life then.
> Hi Alex,
>
> Sorry, I am replying to all of your posts several days late! Did you make a decision as to which antidepressant to try? I have never taken Maprotiline, and I am wondering if I should perhaps give it a go. But I can tell you that, to me, Prozac was a miracle drug. But then, it was the first antidepressant I had ever taken. However, it did give me energy (but not too much, ie no anxiety), it made me feel happy with peace of mind, made me more confident and all kinds of good things. But that was, of course, before it pooped out on me. :(
>
> I'd really be interested to hear what you try!
> Kat
>
> > Hi. I really need to go on a proper anti-dep for my severe melancholic dep. I've been becoming a bit too vegetative and mindless. Like some zombie. So difficult to think most of the time. Without gabapentin I'm not sure I'd be even posting this. I currently take ritalin total 5mg a day and valium 2.5mg a day but trying to taper very slowly.
> >
> > I have a few options. My pdoc has had me on various things including parnate, paxil, nardil, wellbutrin and about 2 dozen others in the past. Most success I've had were with paxil and then years later on parnate. Both of which i stopped due to loss of effect. Ritalin and benzos have also helped somewhat.
> >
> > How would Ludiomil compare vs prozac? Prozac might be the only popular ssri I have never taken. zoloft i felt like a zombie. celexa drove anxiety really high but i was in a very severe state at that time 9 years ago.
> >
> > it has been very hard to find detailed online experiences for ludiomil.
> >
> > I am worried about potential harsh side effects. My doc told me it was a harsh med but I forget the rest of the details.
> >
> > Prozac I am more likely to try. I hate numbing effect of ssris but paxil gave me some kind of life at least. I was able to speak to people, have a few small interests, some small emotion, was doing a few activities, was able to make some friends. Parnate was a bit similar. I also had some partial response to risperidone in terms of ability to enjoy things slightly, as well as some benefit from wellbutrin, and stablon.
> >
> > Please share your experiences or any advice/information. I have been having an intensely difficult time this winter and trying out Licorice root, magnesium cirtrate, resveratrol, l-tyrosine, l-tyrpophan, borage oil etc at various times has only helped me on a very minor level and/or made me worse.
> >
> > I absolutely need to make a huge change in my life. Most of the time it is too difficult to get out of bed!! I have almost no drive, motivation, interest in anything.
>
>
Posted by ChicagoKat on March 19, 2013, at 13:39:48
In reply to Clomipramine is next. Prozac maybe 2nd choice. » ChicagoKat, posted by alexcanada on March 19, 2013, at 9:52:42
Hey Alex, good luck with Clomipramine...I've never tried it. I'm back on Elavil myself so I can sleep plus the sedation helps a bit with the panic attacks I've been having, and Vistaril helps a bit too. But I am so sedated right now and I have to drive to see my therapist in half an hour and I think it may not be safe but I've cancelled or changed to phone sessions so many times if I do it again who knows she may dump me plus it helps to get out of the house.
Sorry I am just babbling...hey that's funny, I'm in the right place to babble...but I am so zonked but at the same time so anxious I want a lobotomy...I can't have benzos anymore b/c I'm addicted to them but life has been a nightmare without them.
Anyways, I'll stop babbling! If you find you can, let me know how it goes with the Clomipramine, and if that fails, with Prozac. Oh, to answer your question, Prozac helped me for years, actually for about 10 years. But the efficacy slowly declined over the years. Then Lexapro helped. But everything stopped helping after I had ECT 2 yrs ago. How I wish I had never done that.
Take care and good luck
Kaat
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