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Posted by Laney on February 5, 2012, at 12:52:21
it all out. Like how long do you have to take it before withdrawl is bad and also how bad is it??? Like if I took it for 8 weeks to find out it doesn't work, would it be a bad withdrawl or does it even matter?
Thanks again!
Laney
Posted by Lou Pilder on February 5, 2012, at 13:31:08
In reply to How bad is effexor withdrawl? Just trying to weigh, posted by Laney on February 5, 2012, at 12:52:21
> it all out. Like how long do you have to take it before withdrawl is bad and also how bad is it??? Like if I took it for 8 weeks to find out it doesn't work, would it be a bad withdrawl or does it even matter?
>
> Thanks again!
>
> LaneyLaney,
You wrote that you are taking the mind-altering chemical called by the manufcturer of the drug, {Effexor}. You want to know about this drug and I want to tell you and others about this drug as to where it originated from, what the chemical composition of the make up of the drug is, what it could do to you, and other related aspects of this drug. What you are about to read could save your life or prevent you from getting a life-ruining condition.
First, be advised that there are prohibitions made to me here by Mr. Hsiung that will play a part in my response to your post here. These prohibitions could effect my offering you facts that IMHHHO could save your life.
Now there is a lot of information about this drug that could be unbeknownst to you that I know that could be a life-saving treasure of information to you that could allow you to know the facts concerning this drug.
First, the chemicl compostion of this drug is a knock-off of a very old drug. The drug comes from an era of time that I am prohibited by Mr. Hsiung and his deputy (that by definition of a deputy that does the wishes of someone else which here is Mr. Hsiung). You may discover why these prohibitions are made to me after reading what is could be coming here. The drug comes from (redacted by respondent) a community of death.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on February 5, 2012, at 14:27:03
In reply to Lou's response-kumuntyovdhth » Laney, posted by Lou Pilder on February 5, 2012, at 13:31:08
> > it all out. Like how long do you have to take it before withdrawl is bad and also how bad is it??? Like if I took it for 8 weeks to find out it doesn't work, would it be a bad withdrawl or does it even matter?
> >
> > Thanks again!
> >
> > Laney
>
> Laney,
> You wrote that you are taking the mind-altering chemical called by the manufcturer of the drug, {Effexor}. You want to know about this drug and I want to tell you and others about this drug as to where it originated from, what the chemical composition of the make up of the drug is, what it could do to you, and other related aspects of this drug. What you are about to read could save your life or prevent you from getting a life-ruining condition.
> First, be advised that there are prohibitions made to me here by Mr. Hsiung that will play a part in my response to your post here. These prohibitions could effect my offering you facts that IMHHHO could save your life.
> Now there is a lot of information about this drug that could be unbeknownst to you that I know that could be a life-saving treasure of information to you that could allow you to know the facts concerning this drug.
> First, the chemicl compostion of this drug is a knock-off of a very old drug. The drug comes from an era of time that I am prohibited by Mr. Hsiung and his deputy (that by definition of a deputy that does the wishes of someone else which here is Mr. Hsiung). You may discover why these prohibitions are made to me after reading what is could be coming here. The drug comes from (redacted by respondent) a community of death.> Lou
Laney,
Now I would like for you to look at the stats for those attempting to kill themselves while they were taking Effexor. Look at the percentage of those taking the drug that attempted to kill themselves. Now the 2 3/4% is a great number to include in all of the other chances of getting life-ruining conditions while taking this drug. When you roll the dice over and over, and many times each day, the chances become accumlative. This is called {gambler's ruin} that you can look up and compute your chances of the drug killing you or giving you a life-ruining condition when you know the factors.
Here is a link to stats concerning suicide atttempt by those taking Effexor.
Be advised that when the drug co has their trials for drug approval by the FDA, they bar those from the trials that have suicide ideology to begin with. So the manufacturer's trials (redacted by respondent). Now the FDA has a black-box warning on Effexor that suicide thinking could be increased in those that take Effexor. Now wait a minute. Does that make you want to shout?
Lou
http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/effexor/suicide+attempt
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Posted by SLS on February 5, 2012, at 15:50:34
In reply to Lou's response-kumuntyovdhth » Laney, posted by Lou Pilder on February 5, 2012, at 13:31:08
> Now there is a lot of information about this drug that could be unbeknownst to you
You know, I was thinking exactly the same thing about you. To assume than humans are not omniscient is a pretty good bet.
The webpage you linked to does not take into consideration changes in reporting practices, prescribing practices, and the rate of suicide in untreated illness. You keep citing this same website with its meaningless numbers to scare people.
I know that you think you are saving lives. However, I believe you are endangering lives by discouraging people from seeking proven treatments for an illness that leads people to commit suicide if left untreated.
- Scott
Posted by SLS on February 5, 2012, at 15:57:45
In reply to How bad is effexor withdrawl? Just trying to weigh, posted by Laney on February 5, 2012, at 12:52:21
> it all out. Like how long do you have to take it before withdrawl is bad and also how bad is it??? Like if I took it for 8 weeks to find out it doesn't work, would it be a bad withdrawl or does it even matter?
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Laney
Good questions. You might experience some withdrawal after as few as 3 weeks of treatment. How bad is it? For you? I don't think anyone can tell you in advance how your nervous system will react to Effexor discontinuation. The severity and persistence of the withdrawal syndrome is variable. Some people have an easy time of it.If Effexor works for you, how long will you remain on it before discontinuing?
- Scott
Posted by Lou Pilder on February 5, 2012, at 16:33:09
In reply to Lou's response-deathfromeffexor in the community, posted by Lou Pilder on February 5, 2012, at 14:27:03
> > > it all out. Like how long do you have to take it before withdrawl is bad and also how bad is it??? Like if I took it for 8 weeks to find out it doesn't work, would it be a bad withdrawl or does it even matter?
> > >
> > > Thanks again!
> > >
> > > Laney
> >
> > Laney,
> > You wrote that you are taking the mind-altering chemical called by the manufcturer of the drug, {Effexor}. You want to know about this drug and I want to tell you and others about this drug as to where it originated from, what the chemical composition of the make up of the drug is, what it could do to you, and other related aspects of this drug. What you are about to read could save your life or prevent you from getting a life-ruining condition.
> > First, be advised that there are prohibitions made to me here by Mr. Hsiung that will play a part in my response to your post here. These prohibitions could effect my offering you facts that IMHHHO could save your life.
> > Now there is a lot of information about this drug that could be unbeknownst to you that I know that could be a life-saving treasure of information to you that could allow you to know the facts concerning this drug.
> > First, the chemicl compostion of this drug is a knock-off of a very old drug. The drug comes from an era of time that I am prohibited by Mr. Hsiung and his deputy (that by definition of a deputy that does the wishes of someone else which here is Mr. Hsiung). You may discover why these prohibitions are made to me after reading what is could be coming here. The drug comes from (redacted by respondent) a community of death.
>
> > Lou
> Laney,
> Now I would like for you to look at the stats for those attempting to kill themselves while they were taking Effexor. Look at the percentage of those taking the drug that attempted to kill themselves. Now the 2 3/4% is a great number to include in all of the other chances of getting life-ruining conditions while taking this drug. When you roll the dice over and over, and many times each day, the chances become accumlative. This is called {gambler's ruin} that you can look up and compute your chances of the drug killing you or giving you a life-ruining condition when you know the factors.
> Here is a link to stats concerning suicide atttempt by those taking Effexor.
> Be advised that when the drug co has their trials for drug approval by the FDA, they bar those from the trials that have suicide ideology to begin with. So the manufacturer's trials (redacted by respondent). Now the FDA has a black-box warning on Effexor that suicide thinking could be increased in those that take Effexor. Now wait a minute. Does that make you want to shout?
> Lou
> http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/effexor/suicide+attempt
> > Friends,
If you are considering posting in this thread, I am requesting that you view the following video.
To see this viideo:
A. Pull up Google
B. Type in:
[youtube, Antidepressants and School Shootings, suicide, addiction]
Could be first with pic of a man posted on Sept 12, 2007 time is 8 min
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Posted by Phillipa on February 5, 2012, at 18:03:39
In reply to How bad is effexor withdrawl? Just trying to weigh, posted by Laney on February 5, 2012, at 12:52:21
Laney Scott is right as you know. My next door neighbor took it for a while and had some slight withdrawal for about a week nothing she couldn't handle. Phillipa
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on February 5, 2012, at 19:54:50
In reply to Re: How bad is effexor withdrawl? Just trying to weigh » Laney, posted by Phillipa on February 5, 2012, at 18:03:39
I took effexor 150mg/day for 9 months, and tapered it over 9 days with only minor withdrawls..... got a script for the 37.5mg XR caps, took 3 a day for 3 days, 2 a day for 3 days, and 1 a day for 3 days.
Having a few tabs of a benzodiazepine (Valium, Ativan, Xanax) on hand can be helpful, if you feel bad one pill will help reduce anxiety and stop the wirhdrawl symptoms for a while.
Posted by Laney on February 6, 2012, at 17:17:45
In reply to Re: How bad is effexor withdrawl? Just trying to weigh » Laney, posted by SLS on February 5, 2012, at 15:57:45
Thanks guys!
I'm not sure how long I should give it. Probably 6 weeks at least. I'm at 75mg. already. I will probably ask the pdoc to up me to next does by the end of this week.
What do you think??
Thanks and sorry Lou got overly involved. I know he means well but if he was in our shoes, I think he'd have a different opinion of things.
I could be wrong but if our bodies can get ill with all kinds of diseases wouldn't stand to reason that our brains can too?
Laney
Posted by littlefamily on February 7, 2012, at 18:29:54
In reply to How bad is effexor withdrawl? Just trying to weigh, posted by Laney on February 5, 2012, at 12:52:21
I have been on 450mg for about 4 months and now completely off it. I know people are different bu I only had slight withdrawal like aggitation and nausea a little bit. So I say withdrwal is not bad st all
Posted by Laney on February 7, 2012, at 20:31:00
In reply to Re: How bad is effexor withdrawl? Just trying to weigh, posted by littlefamily on February 7, 2012, at 18:29:54
Interesting. Really. Why some people and other's nada??
I already know how I respond to paxil w/d but it's after taking it for countless years. Maybe effexor would be different.
But thanks for adding that. I appreciate the input!
Laney
Posted by Phillipa on February 7, 2012, at 21:29:56
In reply to Re: How bad is effexor withdrawl? Just trying to weigh, posted by Laney on February 7, 2012, at 20:31:00
Laney try adding a low dose of lexapro really low? Might help. But check with doc first. Phillipa
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