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Posted by MissThang on March 5, 2011, at 13:55:59
I'm looking for people who've actually TRIED Neuroreplete and the other amino acids/cofactors recommended by the NeuroAssist.com people.
I know there are a lot of people on here who like to theorize about why it will or won't work, and that's nice and all, but I'm actually looking for people who've used the products.
Anyone?
Posted by Phillipa on March 5, 2011, at 18:57:06
In reply to Any ACTUAL Experience w/Neuroreplete?, posted by MissThang on March 5, 2011, at 13:55:59
If not another message board. Phillipa
http://neurobio.tribe.net/thread/69f8fd71-166f-4033-a9ed-36781b8c693c
Posted by MissThang on March 5, 2011, at 19:24:33
In reply to Re: Any ACTUAL Experience w/Neuroreplete? » MissThang, posted by Phillipa on March 5, 2011, at 18:57:06
I actually saw that one already and later in the thread, there's some question about whether the posters are actually just shills for the company since none of them had ever posted before. I was hoping that someone from here whom I know for sure would be honest about their experiences could tell me how they liked it.
Thanks, though, for finding that for me.
Posted by Phillipa on March 5, 2011, at 19:54:10
In reply to Re: Any ACTUAL Experience w/Neuroreplete?, posted by MissThang on March 5, 2011, at 19:24:33
Oh shoot been so quiet here I tried. I have never read on here of anyone mentioning neuroreplete. Some lurk though so hopefully someone will answer. Phillipa
Posted by MissThang on March 5, 2011, at 20:05:03
In reply to Re: Any ACTUAL Experience w/Neuroreplete? » MissThang, posted by Phillipa on March 5, 2011, at 19:54:10
It's one of the main supplement mixes designed by Dr. Mary Hintz, (web site is www.neuroassist.com) who personally left a rather rude post here years ago when someone posted a negative comment here about his protocol without ever having tried it...there's no excuse for his rudeness, of course, but then again, just because he lacks social skills doesn't mean his program is bad. It would just be nice to here from someone who's really tried it!
Posted by Phillipa on March 5, 2011, at 21:24:47
In reply to Re: Any ACTUAL Experience w/Neuroreplete?, posted by MissThang on March 5, 2011, at 20:05:03
Don't remember meds or alternative board? Phillipa
Posted by linkadge on March 6, 2011, at 6:54:40
In reply to Re: Any ACTUAL Experience w/Neuroreplete? » MissThang, posted by Phillipa on March 5, 2011, at 21:24:47
Hi, I have not used neuroplete, but I have used various amino acids and amino acid combinations. Which amino acids are in neuroplete?
Also, I read the discussion thread posted by phillipa. I agree that many of these testimonials sound a little bit phony, but I could be wrong.
Linkadge
Posted by linkadge on March 6, 2011, at 6:56:13
In reply to Re: Any ACTUAL Experience w/Neuroreplete?, posted by MissThang on March 5, 2011, at 20:05:03
Is this the 5-htp / tyrosine combination based on urine tests for serotonin / norepinephrine metabolites?
Linkadge
Posted by MissThang on March 6, 2011, at 7:40:22
In reply to Re: Any ACTUAL Experience w/Neuroreplete?, posted by linkadge on March 6, 2011, at 6:56:13
It's apparently 5htp, L-tyrosine and Mucuna (the L-Dopa precursor), along with specific nutritional cofactors that they say you need to process the neuros properly. They do urine testing, but supposedly they only do it with about 20% of people if they haven't received relief within the first 3-4 weeks using their products.
I know what you're going to say Link -- there's no history of urinalysis for neuros being supported. But apparently several well-known M.D.'s and psyhiatrists have published peer-reviewed articles on this topic showing there actually is some relevance when you're supplementing the neuro precursors at high levels, so I'm not ruling out the fact that it's possible.
I too have supplemented with aminos with mixed results -- I had a 3-day remission supplementing with herbs & aminos in combination with my wellbutrin last fall, but the results didn't last past that...but that's what has me so curious as to whether this could work...it's possible I didn't have the appropriate nutrition to continue supporting the transformation of the precursors into the necessary neuros...I don't know. All I know is that that's the only time in years I've actually felt good and if there's some way I could recreate that feeling, I'd sell a kidney to get it back...
Posted by linkadge on March 6, 2011, at 14:55:13
In reply to Re: Any ACTUAL Experience w/Neuroreplete?, posted by MissThang on March 6, 2011, at 7:40:22
Thanks for the information.
No, I would never say that something won't work, cause I don't know.
But, yes I don't think there is a whole lot of evidence proving that iscolated amino acids are particularly effective for the treatment of depression.
Take dopa, for isntance. I does have proven utility for parkinsons, but dosage escalation is oftentimes necessary, it can cause side effects like mood swings and hallucinations. Also there is preliminary evidence that it can further destroy dopaminergic neurons.
Contrary to initial evidence, many antidepressants don't really increase monoamine levels. Take amitriptyline for instance (often used as a reference antidepressant). Many sources claim this drug works by increasing serotonin/norepinephrine levels. However, recent in vivo evidence suggests that the drug acts more potently as a serotonin antagonist (like mianserin) than an agonist. Also, the drug counteracts the ability of chronic stress to increase serotonin transmission in the dorsal raphai and frontal cortex.
I guess what I am saying is that the idea that depression is due to low serotonin / norepinephrine is so incredably simplistic, and theres not a lot of evidence showing that:
a) long term high dose amino acid therapy works for depression
b) high dose amino acids are safe (and not increasing oxidative amine metabolism) or causing further imbalances (or causing cardiac valve proliferation due to high peripherial serotonin)
c) urine tests for amino acids acurately reflect brain absorbtion / utilization of the neurotransmitter
amino acids may be out of ballance in depression, but how do you know its not low GABA vs low serotonin? Some depression is due to low gaba. Or low gylcine, or low taurine, or low PEA, or high histamine, or elevated glutamate, or imbalances in one of the many enzymes that synthesize the amino acid.
Linkadge
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