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Posted by Frequent Fryer on November 27, 2010, at 3:12:09
Hey SLS
After adding Nortrip to Nardil, did you get a repeat of that awesome first stimulating effect of Phenelzine or was it just a li'l better,and how long did the additional onset of Nortrip take?Also Dose Lamictal good for depression aswell or is it more just to even out the high's and lows?
Regards.
Posted by SLS on November 27, 2010, at 7:47:09
In reply to Nardil + Nortrip info please SLS, posted by Frequent Fryer on November 27, 2010, at 3:12:09
Hi.
After being on phenelzine for an extended period of time, adding nortriptyline probably won't reproduce the hypomanic-like high that occurs when first starting phenelzine. If nortriptyline works, you will probably feel more clear-headed, even-keeled, and able to focus your attention on tasks. You will experience increases in positive psychic energy and a decrease in anhedonia.
Expect that it might take the usual amount of time for nortriptyline to work (2-3 weeks) once you hit the right dosage. You have to take into consideration that it might take a few weeks to reach that dosage. If in doubt, use blood tests to determine how much nortriptyline is in your system. Dosages can vary greatly between individuals, depending on the rate of its metabolism by the liver enzyme, CYP450 2D6.
For most people, 75mg seems to work fine. For rapid metabolizers like me, 150mg is often necessary.> Also Dose Lamictal good for depression aswell or is it more just to even out the high's and lows?
Some people with either MDD or BD express having a genuine antidepressant effect when taking Lamictal. However, Lamictal is not the most effective anti-manic drug, although it can produce a stabilization of an ultra-rapid cycle over the course of months according to the NIH studies. I have not yet seen an investigation comparing the efficacy of Lamictal monotherapy to using Lamictal in combination with an antidepressant. Some people to well when Lamictal is used as an adjunct. Like Nardil, Lamictal can produce a rapid improvement in depression early in treatment and at lower dosages. This early response usually disappears quickly, though, and can recur briefly upon dosage increases. Once you reach approximately 200mg , a more stable improvement can emerge.
Be well.
- Scott
Posted by Frequent Fryer on November 27, 2010, at 22:30:26
In reply to Re: Nardil + Nortrip info please SLS » Frequent Fryer, posted by SLS on November 27, 2010, at 7:47:09
> Hi.
>
> After being on phenelzine for an extended period of time, adding nortriptyline probably won't reproduce the hypomanic-like high that occurs when first starting phenelzine. If nortriptyline works, you will probably feel more clear-headed, even-keeled, and able to focus your attention on tasks. You will experience increases in positive psychic energy and a decrease in anhedonia.
>
> Expect that it might take the usual amount of time for nortriptyline to work (2-3 weeks) once you hit the right dosage. You have to take into consideration that it might take a few weeks to reach that dosage. If in doubt, use blood tests to determine how much nortriptyline is in your system. Dosages can vary greatly between individuals, depending on the rate of its metabolism by the liver enzyme, CYP450 2D6.
> For most people, 75mg seems to work fine. For rapid metabolizers like me, 150mg is often necessary.
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> > Also Dose Lamictal good for depression aswell or is it more just to even out the high's and lows?
>
> Some people with either MDD or BD express having a genuine antidepressant effect when taking Lamictal. However, Lamictal is not the most effective anti-manic drug, although it can produce a stabilization of an ultra-rapid cycle over the course of months according to the NIH studies. I have not yet seen an investigation comparing the efficacy of Lamictal monotherapy to using Lamictal in combination with an antidepressant. Some people to well when Lamictal is used as an adjunct. Like Nardil, Lamictal can produce a rapid improvement in depression early in treatment and at lower dosages. This early response usually disappears quickly, though, and can recur briefly upon dosage increases. Once you reach approximately 200mg , a more stable improvement can emerge.
>
> Be well.
>
>
> - ScottThanks heaps.
I went strait to 100 mg of Nortrip and BP was fine... ahh I just wish I could maintain that awesome Nardil mania first effect, its better then any other drug I have ever had it completely transforms me. Its like welcome to the matrix.
Posted by Conundrum on November 28, 2010, at 20:55:58
In reply to Re: Nardil + Nortrip info please SLS » Frequent Fryer, posted by SLS on November 27, 2010, at 7:47:09
>If nortriptyline works, you will probably feel more clear-headed, even-keeled, and able to focus your attention on tasks. You will experience increases in positive psychic energy and a decrease in anhedonia.
>
That sounds like a dream to me. Literally everything I need to feel. Psygne me up please.
Posted by Frequent Fryer on November 30, 2010, at 21:17:38
In reply to Re: Nardil + Nortrip info please SLS » SLS, posted by Conundrum on November 28, 2010, at 20:55:58
> >If nortriptyline works, you will probably feel more clear-headed, even-keeled, and able to focus your attention on tasks. You will experience increases in positive psychic energy and a decrease in anhedonia.
> >
> That sounds like a dream to me. Literally everything I need to feel. Psygne me up please.Yeah I have been taking 100mg's of Nortrip with 60 mg's of Nardil for about 2 weeks now (added the 100 Nortrip 2 weeks ago after being on the Phenelzine for about three months and it was doing nothing) I think Im feeling a bit of SLS's good psychic energy but I doubt its going to be like that first nardil onset which completly obliviates my chronic social anxiety.
Atleast Im regular and my BP is good, But I can barely stand the hyperhydrosis, its insanley bad, almost enough for me to quit.
I showed my shrink everything I have gotten aff this page but there isn't really anny good options, Terazosin = $ and anti=cholanergics = dementia and arn't good he reckons.
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