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Posted by Zyprexa on July 17, 2010, at 1:00:01
I wonder if its your teeth that gives you diabettes not the zyprexa. I developed diabettes when I started geodon. I went back on zyprexa and still diabettic. Then I was diagnosed with periodontal disease. They started treating it and within a couple years the diabetes slowely went away. I've read that periodontal disease can cause diabetes and a lot of other health problems. I've also read that zyprexa can be problematic with your mouth health.
So what gave me the diabeties?
Posted by Zyprexa on July 17, 2010, at 1:12:59
In reply to Zyprexa Diabetes and Teeth., posted by Zyprexa on July 17, 2010, at 1:00:01
Also this is realy weird. I'm not gaining weight on zyprexa for the last 2 years. I've even lost some, 15 lbs. I'm taking one of the highest doses of zyprexa I ever have, for a long period of time. Could it be the perphenazine which I've been taking for close to 3 years now. I also started getting my thyroid under control within the last 2 years. I was taking a different thyroid med, starting some 4 years ago. It was under control for a while and then got bad again.
Any ideas?
Posted by jade k on July 17, 2010, at 5:10:48
In reply to Zyprexa Diabetes and Teeth., posted by Zyprexa on July 17, 2010, at 1:00:01
> So what gave me the diabeties?(One possibility):
Duke Warning: Zyprexa-Diabetes Link
On July 1, 2002, Duke University issued a Press Release about the most [recent
finding that links the new anti-psychotics to early onset diabetes.] The team of
researchers--Elizabeth A. Koller, M.D. from the FDA, and Murali Doraiswamy, M.D.
from Duke-- analyzed FDA's adverse drug report database, MedWatch (which receives
10% of adverse drug reports). They identified 289 cases of diabetes in patients
who had been prescribed olanzapine (a.k.a. Zyprexa), Eli Lilly's most profitable
drug.The researchers reported: "Of the 289 cases of diabetes linked to the use of
olanzapine, 225 were newly diagnosed cases.
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From what I've read, its likely the diabetes came first, probably from Geodon or
Zyprexa, which then caused the periodontal disease.
-------------------------------(Another possibilty, you'd have to look at your timeline)
CHICAGONovember 3, 2009Clinical guidelines from the International Diabetes
Federation (IDF) emphasize the importance of periodontal health for people with
diabetes. Diabetes affects approximately 285 million people worldwide, and this
number is only expected to increase. The IDF is an organization of 200 national
diabetes associations from 160 countries.
The IDF oral health clinical guideline supports what research has already
suggested: that [management of periodontal diseasewhich affects the gums and
other supporting tissues around the teethcan help reduce the risk of developing
diabetes] and can also help people with diabetes control their blood sugar
levels.Studies have suggested there is a two-way relationship between diabetes and
periodontal disease, and the IDF guideline outlines helpful guidance for health
professionals who treat people living with and at risk for diabetes.So, it looks like its also possible that periodontal disease is a risk factor for
developing diabetes.~Jade
Posted by Phillipa on July 17, 2010, at 12:04:23
In reply to Re: Zyprexa Diabetes and Teeth., posted by jade k on July 17, 2010, at 5:10:48
Zyprexa you never said you had thyroid disease before but thyroid very often is autoimmune in origin as is diabetes and the two often go hand in hand so the thyroid could have caused the diabetes. Many other autoimmune diseases are related. Also the weight gain could have contributed to diabetes. High cholesterol is also in this circle of hormones. Phillipa
Posted by SheilaC on July 18, 2010, at 10:56:28
In reply to Zyprexa Diabetes and Teeth., posted by Zyprexa on July 17, 2010, at 1:00:01
Does anyone know if taking Metformin while taking Zyprexa or Geodon would help guard against getting diabetes?
Posted by inanimate peanut on July 18, 2010, at 13:30:40
In reply to Re: Metformin?? Zyprexa Diabetes, posted by SheilaC on July 18, 2010, at 10:56:28
Metformin does help counter the weight gain from Zyprexa, and obesity is a risk factor for diabetes, so it would be indirectly protective if not directly so.
Posted by Zyprexa on July 18, 2010, at 21:37:08
In reply to Re: Metformin?? Zyprexa Diabetes, posted by SheilaC on July 18, 2010, at 10:56:28
Yes! Taking metformin with zyprexa or geodon will lower your blood sugar.
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