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Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on November 5, 2009, at 20:00:41
Hello babble,
Just wanted to write this, wellbutrin is diffrent from other antidepressant's because it actself as a indirect stimulant, yet far less potency than Ritilin or Dexedrine. It provides similar feelings because of the uptake of dopamine and NE.
It' more better for depression because it's effect's on mood are better than cognitive stuff that Ritilin/Adderall provide because it's far less weaker.
Just thought i'd share. At least it's better than nothing.
Posted by Phillipa on November 5, 2009, at 22:58:37
In reply to Wellbutrin good for replacing stimulant's, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on November 5, 2009, at 20:00:41
It reved me up so bad I landed in the hospital and on benzos too. Can't take with anxiety. Phillipa
Posted by delna on November 6, 2009, at 3:58:14
In reply to Wellbutrin good for replacing stimulant's, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on November 5, 2009, at 20:00:41
Yes, I quite like it. Especially since I cannot tolerate ritalin- it makes me really aggressive..
Posted by Maxime on November 6, 2009, at 5:53:06
In reply to Wellbutrin good for replacing stimulant's, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on November 5, 2009, at 20:00:41
I am so glad you have found something that works for you that isn't really a stimulant. Congrats!
Posted by metafunj on November 6, 2009, at 7:07:05
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin good for replacing stimulant's, posted by delna on November 6, 2009, at 3:58:14
Sorry to keep asking this on the forum, but is this brand or generic wellbutrin?
Posted by delna on November 6, 2009, at 7:44:08
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin good for replacing stimulant's » delna, posted by metafunj on November 6, 2009, at 7:07:05
> Sorry to keep asking this on the forum, but is this brand or generic wellbutrin?
I take generic.
But I have taken brand too.
I find no diff.
Posted by bulldog2 on November 6, 2009, at 10:41:44
In reply to Wellbutrin good for replacing stimulant's, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on November 5, 2009, at 20:00:41
> Hello babble,
>
> Just wanted to write this, wellbutrin is diffrent from other antidepressant's because it actself as a indirect stimulant, yet far less potency than Ritilin or Dexedrine. It provides similar feelings because of the uptake of dopamine and NE.
>
> It' more better for depression because it's effect's on mood are better than cognitive stuff that Ritilin/Adderall provide because it's far less weaker.
>
> Just thought i'd share. At least it's better than nothing.
>
>I once did a wellbutrin trial up to at least 400 milligrams. It just made me feel irritable like to much epinephrine. Didn't help my mood either. I think wellbutrin's dopamine reuptake is actually very weak. I have a feeling it acts much more on norepinephrine.
Posted by metafunj on November 6, 2009, at 16:32:24
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin good for replacing stimulant's, posted by bulldog2 on November 6, 2009, at 10:41:44
Bulldog2, this was my feeling also. I felt jumpy like I was in fight or flight mode all the time. All my motions were quick and jerky, luckily there was no psychological or physical anxiety with this, my body was just wound up. Also I felt no mood lift. Studies in different mammals have shown some or no Dopaminergic activity with wellbutrin. I was thinking it was just the crappy Teva generics, but maybe wellbutrin isn't the drug for me. After all if it were very dopaminergic it would probably be scheduled in the US.
Posted by Phillipa on November 6, 2009, at 18:18:48
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin good for replacing stimulant's » bulldog2, posted by metafunj on November 6, 2009, at 16:32:24
Okay I admit I thought wellbutrin was dopamine? I've taken snri's and was okay. So what meds have dopamine? Thanks Phillipa
Posted by bulldog2 on November 6, 2009, at 18:50:36
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin good for replacing stimulant's » bulldog2, posted by metafunj on November 6, 2009, at 16:32:24
> Bulldog2, this was my feeling also. I felt jumpy like I was in fight or flight mode all the time. All my motions were quick and jerky, luckily there was no psychological or physical anxiety with this, my body was just wound up. Also I felt no mood lift. Studies in different mammals have shown some or no Dopaminergic activity with wellbutrin. I was thinking it was just the crappy Teva generics, but maybe wellbutrin isn't the drug for me. After all if it were very dopaminergic it would probably be scheduled in the US.
I know how dopamine feels from times when I tried true stims which really hit dopamine..I don't know why p-doc keep saying wellbutrin is a dopamine drug.if you read drug manuals they say it's action is WEAK dopamine reuptake..The other actions of wellbutrin seem to be unknown..I also tried strong norepinephrine drugs and wellbutrin didn't even feel like them...For me had a bit of the to much adrenalin feeling...
Maybe emsam or selegiline with phenylalanine might be better replacements. Selegiline (10 mg) with l-phenylalanine (250-500 mg) was pretty speedy..
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on November 9, 2009, at 0:56:04
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin good for replacing stimulant's, posted by delna on November 6, 2009, at 3:58:14
Yes...it's less direct on the uptake, it's more for antidepressant stimulanting properties than psychostimulant potency. Zoloft Believe it or not is a dopamine reuptake inhibitor but that's passed the recommended dose, 200mg.
Thanks
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on November 9, 2009, at 0:59:56
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin good for replacing stimulant's » rjlockhart04-08, posted by Maxime on November 6, 2009, at 5:53:06
thanks.....
Well just gotta look to the good side of things, now I do take Nuvigel which is basically like Provigel without NE stimulation, it only provides wakefulness. Yet i've taken it almost every morning and go back to bed. That's wierd, the wellbutrin is kinda helps with ciggarettes, and making things a "little" more intresting than before, some concentration is improved where I'll feel "focused" on doing something, yet it doesnt have the near potency as methyphenidate or amphetamine.
Thanks appriciate the reponse.
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on November 9, 2009, at 1:01:07
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin good for replacing stimulant's » delna, posted by metafunj on November 6, 2009, at 7:07:05
generic "Bupropion 300mg XL"
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on November 9, 2009, at 1:03:36
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin good for replacing stimulant's, posted by bulldog2 on November 6, 2009, at 10:41:44
yea...
the last time I took it, it had more "adrenal" effect's, now it's just some aspect's are just better in "well-being" feeling.
Zyprexa cancels out the anxiety, also Clonodine is good.
Posted by metafunj on November 9, 2009, at 10:18:40
In reply to metafuji, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on November 9, 2009, at 1:01:07
Hm i was taking Teva Budeprion SR.
Does d-amphetamine make the world seem more colorful? I'm living in black and white right now.
Posted by JohnnyBLinux on November 12, 2009, at 1:57:53
In reply to Wellbutrin good for replacing stimulant's, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on November 5, 2009, at 20:00:41
A 2nd trial of Wellbrutrin did not work for me as a substitute for Ritalin / Dexedrine / Adderall. It's not approved for ADD/ADHD.
So, I had 2 stop Wellbutrin (from my pdoc) and restart Ritalin (from my PCP). I plan to ask my PCP about giving Adderall another shot. The pdoc I have doesn't have the freedom choose from ADD/ADHD approved meds.
In this way the Community Services Board fails totally.
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