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Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on May 21, 2009, at 16:25:43
It should signicantly raise dopamine and have no sexual side effects. Emsam, parnate, marplan or what? I've read that parnate has sexual side effects. I thought it did not.
Posted by shasling on May 21, 2009, at 21:29:28
In reply to Wanna try an MAOI, which one?, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on May 21, 2009, at 16:25:43
Parnate Cons
Does not cause loss of libidio,in fact for me and many does the opposite,HOWEVER i believe due to possably prolactin release parnate does make it hard if not impossable to ummmm ARRIVE.
Im actualy very serious,i know a erect guy might jokingly sound great,but when u literaly can never finish it ca cause anxiety and extreme agitation when you can never finish.
Parnate although potent,usualy will work better when augmented,and most times ends up being augmented,you see this if you follow parnate posts.
Parnate will almost undoubtdly cause severe insomnia.
Almost all parnate users include some form of sleep aid.
Parnate Pros
Works extremly fast,many say its felt within the first day or so.
Increases dopamine,and does often have a mind stumlative affect,or at least it once did.
There is a deep horrid feeling in your gut during depression,parnate at its least locks that up and although u might be depressed,ur not terrified.
Parnated when augmented well,will offer you many days of remission.I personaly have tried every maoi including the reversable ones,hoever will only comment on parnate since its the one im on now and have been for over 5 years and the one i know most.
Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on May 22, 2009, at 5:41:50
In reply to Re: Wanna try an MAOI, which one?, posted by shasling on May 21, 2009, at 21:29:28
> Parnate Cons
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> Does not cause loss of libidio,in fact for me and many does the opposite,HOWEVER i believe due to possably prolactin release parnate does make it hard if not impossable to ummmm ARRIVE.
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> Im actualy very serious,i know a erect guy might jokingly sound great,but when u literaly can never finish it ca cause anxiety and extreme agitation when you can never finish.
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> Parnate although potent,usualy will work better when augmented,and most times ends up being augmented,you see this if you follow parnate posts.
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> Parnate will almost undoubtdly cause severe insomnia.
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> Almost all parnate users include some form of sleep aid.
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> Parnate Pros
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> Works extremly fast,many say its felt within the first day or so.
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> Increases dopamine,and does often have a mind stumlative affect,or at least it once did.
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> There is a deep horrid feeling in your gut during depression,parnate at its least locks that up and although u might be depressed,ur not terrified.
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> Parnated when augmented well,will offer you many days of remission.
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> I personaly have tried every maoi including the reversable ones,hoever will only comment on parnate since its the one im on now and have been for over 5 years and the one i know most.What does one typically agument parnate with? Why does it increase prolactin when it has powerful dopagernic properties?
Posted by bleauberry on May 22, 2009, at 19:58:14
In reply to Wanna try an MAOI, which one?, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on May 21, 2009, at 16:25:43
> It should signicantly raise dopamine and have no sexual side effects. Emsam, parnate, marplan or what? I've read that parnate has sexual side effects. I thought it did not.
There is no way to predict sexual side effects, so don't even bother. The idea is to get well.
Example. Selegiline (oral version of Ensam) is noted for sexual enhancement. Guess what, it made me totally useless in that department.
I can show you people who got strong sex lives from Zoloft, Prozac, and Lexapro, when for most people those things will kill sex.
So forget the sex prediction thing. It happens or it doesn't, but it is an individual thing that varies dramatically from person to person.
Try reading what Dr Gillman at www.psychotropical.com has to say about MAOIs. He prefers Parnate because it has fewer side effects and fewer liver interactions with other meds. And he has just seen it work more often. He says that while he has treated over 1000 patients with Parnate, only 50 ended up on Nardil as a second choice. His third choice was a Zoloft+Nortriptyline or Zoloft+Reboxetine combo.
I am not a fair judge since I have only taken tiny amounts of Parnate for very short times. In those trials I did experience heightened sex desire and ability. During a two week trial of Ensam I had zero desire and zero ability. Never tried Nardil, but I think general consensus is that its anorgasmia is difficult but eases up a lot in the longterm, 6 to 12 months.
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