Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 885368

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Waiting for relief...

Posted by Frustratedmama on March 14, 2009, at 20:37:24

Hi everyone,
I am writing again because I am still NOT well. I am angry all the time and mean to those around me even though I tell myself tomorrow will be different. I don't want to feel this way anymore. I am willing to do ANYTHING for relief- to feel normal again (whatever that is). I can't seem to get back to normal and right now I am so upset I can't stand myself. I end up with these "rage attacks" where the anger comes from soemthing so minor (such as the dishes being left in the sink) that I just start to scream and yell at my dog, my children, whomever... I know this is wrong but I can't seem to stop the rage once it starts. Does anyone else experience these rage attacks? If so, what can I do to STOP them before they are out of control! I am taking medication but it's not working- I have been in therapy for years..... I am asking for any advice- medications that work- therapy advice- whatever.... Please help!

 

Re: Waiting for relief...

Posted by Zyprexa on March 14, 2009, at 22:20:10

In reply to Waiting for relief..., posted by Frustratedmama on March 14, 2009, at 20:37:24

I think you should try a sedating med. Some sort of AD or even an AP.

 

Re: Waiting for relief... » Frustratedmama

Posted by Phillipa on March 15, 2009, at 0:38:21

In reply to Waiting for relief..., posted by Frustratedmama on March 14, 2009, at 20:37:24

Any chance it could be hormones? Just thinking. Sorry what meds are you now taking? Love Phillipa

 

Re: Waiting for relief...

Posted by desolationrower on March 15, 2009, at 2:28:43

In reply to Re: Waiting for relief... » Frustratedmama, posted by Phillipa on March 15, 2009, at 0:38:21

have you tried

clonidine or guanfacine
anticonvulsants, especially valproic acid?
stimulants/nris?
lithium
neuroleptic

i would think mindfulness meditation would be very helpful for helpfing you get more control of things

-d/r

 

Re: Waiting for relief...

Posted by bleauberry on March 15, 2009, at 9:16:20

In reply to Waiting for relief..., posted by Frustratedmama on March 14, 2009, at 20:37:24

You mentioned you are taking medication but it isn't working. But you didn't mention some important things such as what medications are they, what doses are they, how long have you been on them, what side effects you experience, what medications did you take before your current meds, and what reactions did you have to those other medications. Also, did the rage exist before the medications. Did it get worse after starting the medications. Or was it there previously but was not impacted by the medicines at all.

To get a better view of the whole picture it would be necessary to have all that information.

For example, rage from SSRI antidepressants is not uncommon, as either a side effect or as a manifestation of a bipolar component. If you have poor sleep as a side effect or as a history, that has all the makings for rage.

That said, shooting blindfolded, some of the reasonable choices for rage would be Zyprexa, Seroquel, Xanax, Klonopin, maybe Depakote or Lamictal.

The right antidepressant could do wonders as well. But, any of them can sometimes increase rage instead of decrease it. It is possible your current medication is not only not helping, but possibly making it even worse? Ones more likely to increase rage would be Prozac or Wellbutrin.

If there is a bipolar component to your moods, your current medications could possibly be making things worse.

For natural alternatives, choose magnesium citrate or magnesium glycinate, GABA, glycine, Passionflower Extract, Lemon Balm Extract, Skullcap Extract, and good ole St Johns Wort. Any single one of them or combination of them. With the exception of St Johns Wort, they should all work very fast.

 

Re: Waiting for relief...

Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on March 15, 2009, at 11:25:15

In reply to Waiting for relief..., posted by Frustratedmama on March 14, 2009, at 20:37:24

hi.....

I've read your post. Medications, help, but behind all the chemical imbalance, did something happen?

I've....pretty much been through a threshhold, with anger. But the reason was, manipulation, control, and verbal abuse.

Is there emptiness? from something. Just a question.

Wellbutrin - bleauberry is right, and Prozac, due to certain nuerotransmitters it increases, it can cause "rage". Under circumstance, such as what ever situation your going through, if it's negative thoughts, scattered throughts, irrtiblity, from both external and internal. Stress of trying to "take care" of things, is a #1, feeling your putting responsiblity into everything that you love. From realizing, my own past, it will cause stress levels to go so high, you cannot sleep, intruding thoughts of "i forgot to do this". And, i've done it.

Yet, there was a person who, gave up (not me) and just left, with all the things that she did, but she didnt let me do them. So self-mastery (knowing what's causing negative) and have a memory log, of past stuff.

I'm here....to give advice. I'm not any specialist, it's just, i learned these things from realization of what's going on. Internal and External.

Best, to what I can support.

rj

 

Re: Waiting for relief...

Posted by Frustratedmama on March 15, 2009, at 16:07:28

In reply to Re: Waiting for relief..., posted by rjlockhart04-08 on March 15, 2009, at 11:25:15

Thanks for replys! I am currently taking cytomel, vyvanse, and librium in the AM and restoril at night..... I have been taking meds for a long time and been through them all- but am headed for a second opinion with a new pdoc soon. Medications seem to work then stop. The vyvanse allows me to focus- the cytomel is something new we are trying- the librium is supposed to help calm (which it does but somehow these rage attacks still get through). The restoril helps me sleep.... That said, I am asking for another opinion cause I still have these horrible rages which I am so embarrased by and that cause so much guilt (my children are usually the ones who get the brunt of my rage). Nothing ever happened in my past so it's not from a PTSD sort of thing- just apparently my hard wiring gone bad :( I hate myself for yelling at my children and am desparate to find an answer to the rage attacks- I too think it could be hormonal- tests are negative though.

 

Re: Waiting for relief... » Frustratedmama

Posted by bleauberry on March 15, 2009, at 18:26:52

In reply to Re: Waiting for relief..., posted by Frustratedmama on March 15, 2009, at 16:07:28

Zyprexa first. Start at 2.5mg either once a day or once every two days, about 2 hours before bed. It can also be taken less frequently, reserving it for those times that are just out of control. If that is all the time, then maybe dose it every evening.

Seroquel second choice.

Long explanation why, so I'll spare you that.

The stimulant you are taking could certainly be making things worse than they are. That would not be unusual.

That's just my experience and opinion though, custom tailored to fit the information given in your posts.

 

Re: Waiting for relief... » Frustratedmama

Posted by JadeKelly on March 15, 2009, at 21:44:28

In reply to Re: Waiting for relief..., posted by Frustratedmama on March 15, 2009, at 16:07:28

Hello Frustrated,

Hope its okay, I'm just going to tell you what I see and what I would do (HAVE DONE).

1. Vyvanse is similar to Adderall a strong stimulent/amphetamine type drug. That alone while raising kids, etc. could make someone feel extremely irritable. I took Cytomel for 3 days and felt out of control angry and irritible. And that really is not even in my nature. I cannot imagine what kind of maniac I might become on both.

2. When my twin boys were small, I had Dx ADD and took Wellbutrin, and a couple other things. By the end of month one, I had more energy but I was yelling "raging" at my kids. I was emotionally hurting them by doing that. I stopped taking it. But I also knew what the culprit was. It doesn't seem that your Doc is paying attention here to the meds your taking.

3. I know you don't want to harm your kids, thats why you are trying to get help. Normally I would say no more. But hurting our children with our rage is simply not an option. I would asap contact your PDoc and wean off both the cytomel and the vyvanse. You may lose some energy, dishes may pile up until you get this figured out. There are no do-overs in raising our kids.

4. Find a good PDoc, tell him/her whats going on, and that this effects not only you but your family and you expect a treatment plan that takes that into account. Good for you in recognizing that your "rages" effect your kids as well as yourself. I don't hear that very often.

Take Care,

~Jade

 

Re: Waiting for relief... » Frustratedmama

Posted by Neal on March 17, 2009, at 23:21:47

In reply to Re: Waiting for relief..., posted by Frustratedmama on March 15, 2009, at 16:07:28

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I would agree with Jade. Just looking up info on Cytomel, I got this blurb:

"Possible side effects of Cytomel are described in the package insert by the German pharmaceutical group Hoechst AG for their compound Thybon: "Exceeding the individual limits of compatibil­ity for liothyronine or taking an overdose, especially, if the dose is increased too quickly at the beginning of the treatment, can cause the following clinical symptoms for a thyroid hyperfunction): heart palpitation, trembling, irregular heartbeat, heart oppression, agita­tion, shortness of breath, excretion of sugar through the urine, ex­cessive perspiration, diarrhea, weight loss, psychic disorders, etc., as well as symptoms of hypersensitivity."


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