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Posted by Bobby on October 15, 2008, at 23:29:03
take more meds than usual? I was just wondering how folks are coping. I only take Restoril for sleep and it seems to work fine. Other than that, I don't take anything-anymore. It would seem that people would want to escape more in general. Any thoughts?
Posted by HyperFocus on October 16, 2008, at 0:39:09
In reply to In these troubled times--do you feel the need to.., posted by Bobby on October 15, 2008, at 23:29:03
I'm pretty oblivious to what's going on in the world. That's pretty bad but it's the honest truth. Most of my time is spent trying to get through school and worrying about how to get through everyday life. The stuff I see in the news doesn't affect me one way or the other - it's the stuff going on in my head that has got all my attention.
I think when I'm well again I'll be able to be cognizant of a world outside my person.
Posted by Sigismund on October 16, 2008, at 1:34:10
In reply to In these troubled times--do you feel the need to.., posted by Bobby on October 15, 2008, at 23:29:03
Pharmacology to the rescue?
Of course I feel the need to, but nothing works much anyway sooooooooo....
This disaster on all fronts thing is not just about getting older, is it?
But imagine you lived to be 200.
Heartbreak.
Posted by yxibow on October 16, 2008, at 2:21:25
In reply to In these troubled times--do you feel the need to.., posted by Bobby on October 15, 2008, at 23:29:03
> take more meds than usual? I was just wondering how folks are coping. I only take Restoril for sleep and it seems to work fine. Other than that, I don't take anything-anymore. It would seem that people would want to escape more in general. Any thoughts?
Life moves forward -- yes, 25% of Americans at least were "walking wounded" for months in a PTSD sense after 9/11. But whatever people want to make of the tragic event, the UK has been dealing with troubles in Northern Ireland for decades and has learned well about these things. Israel has been dealing for 60 years. And though things seemed "safe" in the US actually knowledge of terrorism dated back at least to the beginning of the Clinton administration.
The point is there is no guarantees in life, a temporary existence, which with what we make the best we can, and make sure not to be hard on ourselves for the things that we can't control.Its a hard thing to come to terms with, personally I guess being agnostic and for other reasons I really have not come to terms with this more than on an intellectual level, I know -- emotionally its easier to stay in the past, but if you stay in the past you'll never experience the present to find out the future.
Living in the Here and Now is the best way for success. And yes, I am fighting a tough disorder which makes me depressed a lot and I end up flat on the couch or in my room -- essentially because I don't want to experience life -- I don't want to experience my disorder.
It builds on itself though, to a point where you can really entrap yourself and require a lot of help pushing yourself back out into public no matter how much it hurts.
It might surprise you to see the rest of the world going on. What other rational choices does the world have ?
There are a lot of naturally morbid things we can think about that we don't need to debate in this forum, but in a sense mourning what we think was our previous selves and coming to terms and recreating a new, happier identity is something how people get along.It just requires more help when you're mentally ill, its not fair, and nobody said it was easy, but its a key to being more successful at the battle a lot of us face.
Perhaps I'm transferring a bit of what I face, but I just offer this as a concept.
-- Jay
Posted by Phillipa on October 16, 2008, at 9:29:03
In reply to Re: In these troubled times--do you feel the need to.. » Bobby, posted by yxibow on October 16, 2008, at 2:21:25
Meds don't change a thing for me circumstances. Phillipa
Posted by bulldog2 on October 16, 2008, at 11:13:54
In reply to Re: In these troubled times--do you feel the need, posted by HyperFocus on October 16, 2008, at 0:39:09
> I'm pretty oblivious to what's going on in the world. That's pretty bad but it's the honest truth. Most of my time is spent trying to get through school and worrying about how to get through everyday life. The stuff I see in the news doesn't affect me one way or the other - it's the stuff going on in my head that has got all my attention.
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> I think when I'm well again I'll be able to be cognizant of a world outside my person.One might not be cognizant of a truck barreling down the street but it sure will affect you when it slams into you. Believe me these events have the capability of changing our lives forever. Maybe not today but the implications could be devastating.
So since the future is so unknown make the best of everyday since a raging storm looms out there.
Posted by yxibow on October 16, 2008, at 17:41:42
In reply to Re: In these troubled times--do you feel the need, posted by bulldog2 on October 16, 2008, at 11:13:54
> > I'm pretty oblivious to what's going on in the world. That's pretty bad but it's the honest truth. Most of my time is spent trying to get through school and worrying about how to get through everyday life. The stuff I see in the news doesn't affect me one way or the other - it's the stuff going on in my head that has got all my attention.
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> > I think when I'm well again I'll be able to be cognizant of a world outside my person.
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> One might not be cognizant of a truck barreling down the street but it sure will affect you when it slams into you. Believe me these events have the capability of changing our lives forever. Maybe not today but the implications could be devastating.Yes, there are a lot of people experiencing PTSD.
Who knows whether hypervigilance after 9/11 (checking my phone constantly, a fear level way higher than my peers) created in me an an enormously complicated orphan disorder that has been here since about Nov 17/18, 2001. Or it could be random happenstance.
> So since the future is so unknown make the best of everyday since a raging storm looms out there.
>A raging storm is one way of looking at it, but one could also simply turn it positive, not Pollyanna, but that the unpredictability of life is a natural part of things, and there might be something good around the corner too.
People in places that we see as harmful are used to what shouldn't be happening in the world, granted, but they proceed.
If they don't, stagnation, infighting in society, all sorts of unpleasant things that we don't need to discuss in the medication forum end up happening. And that's what we see in the world at large to simplify things.
I believe in a lot of things about our planet and its future, but I can't weigh into those and obsess about them at the same time as feeling miserable and obsessing about my disorder. Its too much for what is already too much input coming into me for unexplained reasons.
Its okay to have some simplicity in living, with realism obviously, because none of us are Atlas.
-- tidings
Jay
-- tidings
Jay
Posted by Phillipa on October 16, 2008, at 22:44:08
In reply to Re: In these troubled times--do you feel the need, posted by bulldog2 on October 16, 2008, at 11:13:54
Bulldog you okay what is the raging storm as we can't control the world only try to control or own actions and thoughts. Love Phillipa
Posted by bulldog2 on October 17, 2008, at 15:16:22
In reply to Re: In these troubled times--do you feel the need » bulldog2, posted by Phillipa on October 16, 2008, at 22:44:08
> Bulldog you okay what is the raging storm as we can't control the world only try to control or own actions and thoughts. Love Phillipa
The storm is coming..I can feel it...Like a tsumni it will sweep us all away...take action and prepare
Posted by Phillipa on October 17, 2008, at 20:24:54
In reply to Re: In these troubled times--do you feel the need, posted by bulldog2 on October 17, 2008, at 15:16:22
Please don't play with me are you okay? Love Phillipa
Posted by yxibow on October 17, 2008, at 23:27:19
In reply to Re: In these troubled times--do you feel the need, posted by bulldog2 on October 16, 2008, at 11:13:54
> > I'm pretty oblivious to what's going on in the world. That's pretty bad but it's the honest truth. Most of my time is spent trying to get through school and worrying about how to get through everyday life. The stuff I see in the news doesn't affect me one way or the other - it's the stuff going on in my head that has got all my attention.
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> > I think when I'm well again I'll be able to be cognizant of a world outside my person.If you wait till you're "well again" to work on yourself, so to speak, you'll be spending your time on waiting.
I wish I worried a bit more about those things when I was in college -- I can't take back that I moved home instead of staying, but that's what taking advantage of a career counseling system that is at most schools, and the alumni associations. If we're talking about college and not high school, I don't know your age, just making an assumption based on how you're talking about it.
It's the fear of life that has you caught. It has me caught but I have a few years on you. And not to add more fear, but it will swallow you whole if you don't take advantage of campus services and the mental health care they offer.
Its a process, it doesn't happen overnight, but it probably requires some CBT and some therapy and medication if necessary to deal with the fear.
OCD can build up, but the OC thoughts can be chipped away at when they are examined with a rational look, that may require the help of an outsider (a therapist).
Do you feel alone or have ever felt alone? I'm just curious, since I go through a lot of issues myself. Or do you have a fair amount of friends around you?
-- tidings
Jay
Posted by Bobby on October 19, 2008, at 0:03:36
In reply to Re: In these troubled times--do you feel the need, posted by bulldog2 on October 17, 2008, at 15:16:22
Sorry you feel so stressed out. Fear only compounds things. Maybe try to look at things in context or compare things to other eras---like the middle ages. Things have gotten really bad throughout History--yet mankind always finds a way to overcome and even thrive after collapse. This too shall pass...
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