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Posted by Jeroen on June 15, 2008, at 12:41:42
i dont think clozapine is working DAY 13
Posted by SLS on June 15, 2008, at 13:12:12
In reply to i dont think clozapine is working DAY 13, posted by Jeroen on June 15, 2008, at 12:41:42
> i dont think clozapine is working DAY 13
It might not be working now, but it might work a month from now.
Please slow down. If you continually look at yourself with a microscope all day long 24/7, I think you are doing yourself a disservice. You are less likely to be patient and give treatment time to work. You might also become obsessed with side effects. Give the treatment time to work. In the meantime, try to find things to do other than visit Psycho-Babble.
- Scott
Posted by Phillipa on June 16, 2008, at 0:34:31
In reply to Re: i dont think clozapine is working DAY 13 » Jeroen, posted by SLS on June 15, 2008, at 13:12:12
Jeroen you still in the hospital? Do they have groups others to socialize with? Love Phillipa
Posted by Jeroen on June 16, 2008, at 3:09:17
In reply to Re: i dont think clozapine is working DAY 13, posted by Phillipa on June 16, 2008, at 0:34:31
yes im at hospital and yes i socialize here
Posted by Phillipa on June 16, 2008, at 19:41:13
In reply to Re: i dont think clozapine is working DAY 13, posted by Jeroen on June 16, 2008, at 3:09:17
Jeroen that is good that you socialize any new friends or people with conditions like yours? Love Phillipa
Posted by yxibow on June 17, 2008, at 3:59:46
In reply to Re: i dont think clozapine is working DAY 13 » Jeroen, posted by SLS on June 15, 2008, at 13:12:12
> > i dont think clozapine is working DAY 13
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> Please slow down. If you continually look at yourself with a microscope all day long 24/7, I think you are doing yourself a disservice. You are less likely to be patient and give treatment time to work. You might also become obsessed with side effects. Give the treatment time to work. In the meantime, try to find things to do other than visit Psycho-Babble.
I have to highly agree with SLS --- I don't want to character assassinate someone, but it is what I mentioned before -- it is much more useful to make a artbook or diary than to focus intensly on a medication that for all intents and purposes generally will only show some progress in a month.
Sure people say, you can see something in a week or two -- but you're really seeing the blunting (dulling) effect more than long term benefits. Yes, suicidality might decline after a certain point but although it is relatively high at D2 it works differently, it is not characteristic of something beyond the haloperidol range -- it just doesn't act like that.
I'll say my post again, not because I don't think you understand, although my dutch is just translated, my french is better --Je croix que c'est merde (sh*t, for all censors) a ce moment...
C'est pourquoi cela je suggèrent que vous écriviez un journal intime au lieu de la concentration sur les effets secondaires du clozapine.
Het zou beter kunnen zijn om vooruitgangsnota's te schrijven in plaats van zich het concentreren op bijwerkingen van clozapine.
Yes -- I took deplin for two weeks, I didn't count it -- it heightened my anxiety response for a particular panic feeling so much that I had high blood pressure --- but I only realized later after I stopped the deplin two weeks on, that the response wasn't nearly as pronounced. Maybe I'll rechallenge Deplin later but its not something I want to mess with now, too much serotonin and polypharmacy going on.
I have what I think is Tdy rare from Zyprexa -- fortunately though my legs and biceps at times are stiff, I can walk. And the more I concentrate instead of doing stretches and runs when I can, the less the progress of physical therapy will be. But of course at this moment I can only do so much -- my multitasking and scheduling skills have fallen a bit and I need to build things back up.The same thing I urge you -- build things back up, slowly -- I know, we have all seen the video, and I for privacy reasons won't post one, but I have an oral tic syndrome, that is about 95% psychologically activated, although its neurological. In fact a lot of things are aggravated by stress, especially Tardive syndromes. So, as hard as it is in this 21st century, try to minimize your stress and socialize. Its the way to be in contact with the society around you. I know, people are mean and nasty about mental illness and neurological disorders, I mean just an example cerebral palsy. But you know what -- I say, **** them, as we say it over here. Find people who will accept you who you are.
And of course as we say here I don't practice what I preach always or pot and kettle -- but I'm trying to, slowly.
-- best wishes.
Jay
Posted by SLS on June 17, 2008, at 4:33:12
In reply to Re: i dont think clozapine is working DAY 13 » SLS, posted by yxibow on June 17, 2008, at 3:59:46
Hi Jeroen.
Yxibow has collected much wisdom. Going through hell and persevering despite the feelings of helplessness and hopelessness that come with treatment failures will do that to a person. These bits of feedback you are receiving are NOT accusations. You are what you are at any moment in time, as am I. To move forward is a personal decision, even if this movement is made monumentally more difficult because of your illness. At the very least, try to keep your head turned ahead of you rather than behind you. Use the past as a teaching tool.
All I can say is that I can't wait to see you get better. Your chances of this are made much greater should you nurture the wisdom of patience. You are young and may not be fully aware that a life with effective treatment can be a wonderful thing. Believe it. It will be made even that much more wonderful because you will not take any gift for granted, including life itself.
- Scott
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