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Posted by Michael Bell on June 9, 2008, at 19:44:22
Anybody experience increased stress and/or GAD symptoms after taking Nardil?
Posted by Phillipa on June 9, 2008, at 23:42:54
In reply to nardil and stress, posted by Michael Bell on June 9, 2008, at 19:44:22
I thought it was supposed to be for stress and depression? You have more anxiety while taking it or after coming off it? Love Phillipa
Posted by SLS on June 10, 2008, at 4:39:25
In reply to nardil and stress, posted by Michael Bell on June 9, 2008, at 19:44:22
> Anybody experience increased stress and/or GAD symptoms after taking Nardil?
Sometimes you have to say to yourself that anything is possible when it comes to psychotropics. Are you "stressing" because you expect Nardil to start working right away, and it isn't? Earlier in my treatment history, I noticed a sort of energizing effect immediately after each dose. It was pleasant. However, the same biological event might cause you to feel agitated or anxious. You have to hope that this is more of a startup effect and not chronic. If you have only been on Nardil for a week or two, and the side effects are tolerable, I would suggest that you give it more time. Actually, I would expect that Nardil would start to mitigate the GAD before the depression due to its GABAergic enhancing properties.
I guess your decision should be based upon how long you have been taking Nardil, and at what dosage.
Good luck.
- Scott
Posted by Marty on June 10, 2008, at 11:25:15
In reply to nardil and stress, posted by Michael Bell on June 9, 2008, at 19:44:22
> Anybody experience increased stress and/or GAD symptoms after taking Nardil?
After withdrawal or While being on it ?
If you're starting it I'm surprised you ask us that question: As you already know ADs sometime are making things worst in the first few weeks.
If SSRI can do that, what would you expect from a MAOI that raise so many monoamine ?
While rising Serotonin doesn't make you feel good before a couple days while rising, lets say Epinephrine, does you something quicker than it takes to spell WTF.
I agree with SLS that the Gabaergic 'enhancing' properties of Nardil, which is attribuable Phenelzine main metabolite (PEH) phenylethylidenehydrazine), should help you there. But somehow it seems that in your case it's not helping much.
I would give it more time. The chances are that one day you'll wake up with a smile putting the one of the CoolAid jar-dude to shame.
Give it a least 1 month.
/\/\arty
Posted by Michael Bell on June 10, 2008, at 21:05:09
In reply to Re: nardil and stress » Michael Bell, posted by SLS on June 10, 2008, at 4:39:25
Thanks for the reply. Well, I was on Nardil a while back, probably for a year or so. I noticed benefits with social phobia.... yet it also seemed to make me more paranoid and agitated. I am wondering if it was the combo with klonopin that caused that, as klonopin tends to make me more paranoid and depressed. Thinking about trying it again, but not sure
Posted by SLS on June 11, 2008, at 4:39:23
In reply to Re: nardil and stress, posted by Michael Bell on June 10, 2008, at 21:05:09
> Thanks for the reply. Well, I was on Nardil a while back, probably for a year or so. I noticed benefits with social phobia.... yet it also seemed to make me more paranoid and agitated. I am wondering if it was the combo with klonopin that caused that, as klonopin tends to make me more paranoid and depressed. Thinking about trying it again, but not sure
I am convinced that Klonopin can be depressogenic, although not for everyone. It was for me. Klonopin has a poorly understood effect on serotoninergic neurons. If it is pro-serotoninergic, one might expect a reduction in dopaminergic neurotransmission along pathways responsible for pleasure and libido.
- Scott
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