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Posted by your#1fan on March 22, 2008, at 0:10:38
I just saw a very GOOD board certified psychiatrist that gave me a diagonses that finally has fitted most my sympmtoms.
Its an mild mild mild form of Autism, thats why i've always been so slow on things, catching on, oh god, what happens if i continue to grow retared?
I feel this such inferiority now because, i always tried to keep up with people, and now i know why i cant keep up with people, its because im slow.
"People with autism have social impairments and often lack the intuition about others that many people take for granted"
"However, they do form attachments to their primary caregivers"
Here just look it up....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome
This gives me such a birden that i was this way my entire, well most of my life. Its actaully taking place right now. Thats why i grew into it, i never made social contacts. THIS is why i knew there was something always wrong with me.
I always continuaslly needed something to help me concentrate, and as i said, ms. Dearest did not get me the help i VITALLY need. I am not treated for Attention Prolems, memory problems,
What would work from what i've heard is therpy with others, like me.
Also medication too help my danm brain to focus would help. I spent two hours staring at the wall, while i was suppost to be doing my paper, i just stared, got up and walked around, could not sit down.
This is why i post here in need of advice just for going through out the day. I have a form of autism. Im clumys, very behind on social skills, speech is random and gets on people's nerves because i repeat myself CONTANTLY!
But so it goes.....this is why days are so hard for me, i take every account in self-control and acting normal, but really i feel fear, behind, stupidtity, and shame.
If you are familiar with this help me, i am getting professional help, THANK GOODNESS! but just tell me what you think?
your#1fan
Posted by Racer on March 22, 2008, at 0:35:14
In reply to I just got a second opionion from a great doctor., posted by your#1fan on March 22, 2008, at 0:10:38
I do know something about Asperger's Syndrome, as it happens. And that's why I have to correct something you wrote:
> oh god, what happens if i continue to grow retared?
>Autism and mental retardation are two very different things. They sometimes coexist, but they are still two separate and distinct disorders. Many people with Autistic Spectrum Disorders have rather impressive intellects. Autistic difficulties manifest largely in social interactions, and certain sensory quirks.
I hope you won't get too caught up in this new diagnosis. Asperger's is a developmental disorder -- meaning, it is a disorder which is apparent during development. By adulthood, most Aspies have developed compensations that allow them to function effectively enough in society. If it helps you to think that your background is explained by this diagnosis, that's good. I hope you won't allow it to influence your choices for the future, because it certainly does not have to.
After discussing my childhood behaviors, my therapist made a retrospective diagnosis of Asperger's, too, based on just how very eccentric -- that's the polite description -- my behavior was. Because I'm middle aged, it isn't a current diagnosis -- because I am not developing, I have developed. Let me ask you this: do you think I am retarded?
I get calls for information about eating disorders, and a woman called me about her daughter recently. She was crying, and asking, "What caused this? Did I cause this?" Heartbreaking. I'm going to repeat the advice I gave her to you -- what caused it isn't nearly as important as what you do about it.
So, what are you going to do about it?
Good luck.
Posted by your#1fan on March 22, 2008, at 1:09:12
In reply to Funny you should mention that... » your#1fan, posted by Racer on March 22, 2008, at 0:35:14
racer, thanks for always responding, but this doctor finally dianosed me with the correct disorder. That is why i have been distant from people, thats why i was always knew i there was something wrong in life....
*****Autistic difficulties manifest largely in social interactions, and certain sensory quirks.
--someone i know much told me this. After i was diagnosed. I do miss alot of ques and quirks, thats why im so slow, and "special", man i dont want to be special, i want to be normal, but if you read i have to CONTANT LY have emotional support from other....to cope in life, if i dont then my mind will litterly created 2 other people inside my head that have names, they preferable are not personalites, there other "me's" saying "you doing a good job". When i have no one else left...
No i dont do not think your retared....i think you have a better brain i do.Being autistic and knowing now is going to be hard because im always going to know im "spececial", and know i need to get help for it, but thank GOD i found it out by a good doctor.
I always seem to be scared by reality, thats why it seems to go away for a little bit, i have anxiety attacks that come on from feeling "not real" ill stare for a long time, and think im not real, or im not in my body. Even im talking 1000miles an hour.
But my family will support me. I know it.
Thanks, and i proably cant respond to people as much as i used to because of confidencail stuff. So wish me luck.......
your#1fan
Posted by Racer on March 22, 2008, at 10:18:54
In reply to Re: mental feelings, posted by your#1fan on March 22, 2008, at 1:09:12
> racer, thanks for always responding, but this doctor finally dianosed me with the correct disorder.
You're welcome for responding -- in this case, I had to refute the part where you confounded autism and retardation...
And for the first of my two questions:
How do you know?
How do you know that *this* is the correct diagnosis? Could this be part of the problem, with other issues still unexplored? Is it possible that you're focusing on this diagnosis because it's new, and it offers you a sort of Get-Out-Of-Jail-Free card for social awkwardness? I don't deny that it might indeed be correct -- but is it *the* correct diagnosis, or part of a more complex picture, which might include other issues which are harder for you to accept?
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> *****Autistic difficulties manifest largely in social interactions, and certain sensory quirks.
>
> --someone i know much told me this. After i was diagnosed. I do miss alot of ques and quirks, thats why im so slow, and "special", man i dont want to be special, i want to be normal, but if you read i have to CONTANT LY have emotional support from other....to cope in life, if i dont then my mind will litterly created 2 other people inside my head that have names, they preferable are not personalites, there other "me's" saying "you doing a good job". When i have no one else left...First of all, we *all* need a certain amount of emotional support from others. The specific amount of that support varies from person to person, but we *all* need it. That does not make you special.
What you're describing as other people in your head isn't pathological, either. They're not "other personalities," in the sense of Dissociative Identity Disorder. They're the sort of inner voices we all have -- I joke all the time about my own internal dialogs, about "nurturing my inner spoiled brat," etc. In fact, when I'm distressed over something, I do have internal dialogs -- usually it's the upset voice talking to the voice I use when I write to you. That's a technique for self-soothing, if you can channel it -- your own internal voice helping to calm you, to offer yourself the emotional support you need. We all do it, and it's perfectly normal.
Sometimes it does seem as though having another personality to hand the reins over to would be nice, doesn't it? That's not what you're describing.
> Being autistic and knowing now is going to be hard because im always going to know im "spececial", and know i need to get help for it, but thank GOD i found it out by a good doctor.
Did they explain that Asperger's is a very, very mild deficit in functioning? It's on the autistic spectrum, but so close to "normal" that many, many of those diagnosed with it are considered remitted by the time they hit adulthood? That there are those who suspect that it's not so much an autistic disorder, as a certain awkwardness found in many very bright children? (Ever noticed how many gifted students move awkwardly?) Did they talk to you about what sorts of deficits you, specifically, experience?
Autistic spectrum disorders are very complex. They cover a broad range of functional areas. When an assessment is made of an autistic child, it will cover areas such as fine muscle control, gross motor control, verbal skills, spatial skills, social skills, etc. It's not just a one shot deal -- there are specific areas that have deficits, and the more precise the diagnosis, the better the outcome.
But it's time to ask my second, and -- to my mind, at least -- more important question:
So, uh, now that you have a new diagnosis, what is the treatment plan?
My thinking on this is that diagnosis is a great tool -- gives you a sort of compass reading to get you started on treatment. But it's only the compass reading. What really counts -- unless one is planning to stay exactly where one is at the moment the diagnosis is made -- is where one goes from here? What to do with the diagnosis?
What did the doctor say about a treatment strategy?
Good luck.
Posted by Phillipa on March 22, 2008, at 10:59:48
In reply to And for my next two questions... » your#1fan, posted by Racer on March 22, 2008, at 10:18:54
Fan yes good luck and glad Racer could help explain the syndrome. I also learned as I had only seen small children withe the disorder. What kind of testing did they do? Phillipa
Posted by Maxime on March 22, 2008, at 12:53:02
In reply to Re: mental feelings, posted by your#1fan on March 22, 2008, at 1:09:12
It sounds like you want to have this disorder, as if it EXPLAINS everything in your life and who you have become.
You don't have autism ... you MAY have aspergers. But a doctor needs to do a lot of tests before he can give that diagnosis. You don't know if your doctor is right.
I am worried that now you are going to blame everything on this diagnosis and be even less open to getting proper help.
Maxime
Posted by maxime on March 22, 2008, at 15:39:25
In reply to I just got a second opionion from a great doctor., posted by your#1fan on March 22, 2008, at 0:10:38
The more I think about, the more I realise that if you did have autism, someone would have picked up on it by now. You've seen enough doctors over the years.
Maxime
Posted by maxime on March 22, 2008, at 15:46:19
In reply to I just got a second opionion from a great doctor., posted by your#1fan on March 22, 2008, at 0:10:38
What about your ADD and bipolar disease. Do you still have those?
Maxime
Posted by rskontos on March 22, 2008, at 19:16:23
In reply to Re: mental feelings, posted by your#1fan on March 22, 2008, at 1:09:12
Hey fan, if you are interested I have some very good information on aspergers and austism. Dont get to hung up on the dx. I do understand though the want and the need to know something. I think Racer is right. I do know a guy that has BP with aspergers and a few other things and he is doing well and is smart. Has the social issues. And then there is Temple Grandin. A very smart austistic adult who has written alot of books on the subject. So if you are interested let me know I can give you the links to their information. I would paste the information here but it is long. so babblemail me or post here you want it and I will give it too you.
Good luck friend, you are going to be fine. Relax some too. My friend though does provide excellent information on meds he has found helpful in case you are interested as well.
rsk
Posted by your#1fan on March 22, 2008, at 22:53:50
In reply to Re: mental feelings » your#1fan, posted by Maxime on March 22, 2008, at 12:53:02
right now there is confidencial stuff im in. But i do have aS symdrome, this doctor diagnosed me, i do belive i have ADHD, but its a SYMPTOM broken from AS syndrome, that why my whole life is just anxiety, not focusing, repeating myself over and over again, because i think about the SAME thing over again. Thats why i thought i had Obessive thoughts, i would focus on something, anyhting, antenna's, stupid things that didnt have much intrest in the social norm.
This doctor know's very well because after a long session and diagnoses, he came up with the conclusion i had this disorder, now im not stopping here, my family is going to get me proper help.
I just feel like im a kid, and i mask reality as an adult, but really im its fear, intense fear. I do suffer from bad anxiety, just like psychical pain, i have anxiety that will drive me to where my nerves control me.
Right now, im struggling to just keep up with what happening, i smile, i LOOK normal, but i feel very anxious all the time, and i have to live like this. But there are peak periods when my anxiety get out of control and will result in a panic attack(s), i have now learned self-control to hold myself from showing people im anxious, i hide it, just like hiding a disease, i hide back my fear and act confident.
Im going to trust my family for help, because i need it bad.
But thank you all, at this time i cant sit and type to everyone, because, i cant tell you, its confidencial. But thank you for everyone.
Good Night,
your#1fan
Posted by your#1fan on March 22, 2008, at 23:25:56
In reply to And for my next two questions... » your#1fan, posted by Racer on March 22, 2008, at 10:18:54
im up tonight, i have read your post but for a good i must repond to you at a diffrent time....i read the post i just cant write, i have to get up very early in the morning, and no more staying up late.
But i see, you have seen how i respond "back"....thanks:))
Its soo funny, right when things change, i see you caught on how i respond to eachother, thanks. It takes me nearly an hour to post to a really hard thinking post. Im being honest with you, really, but its important that the advice i get is reponded.
There is some things going on that are confidencial.
I will be back.... i may be away for a while. But everyone that has responded is in my thoughts. Thank you.
your#1fan
Posted by bulldog2 on March 23, 2008, at 9:56:54
In reply to I just got a second opionion from a great doctor., posted by your#1fan on March 22, 2008, at 0:10:38
> I just saw a very GOOD board certified psychiatrist that gave me a diagonses that finally has fitted most my sympmtoms.
>
> Its an mild mild mild form of Autism, thats why i've always been so slow on things, catching on, oh god, what happens if i continue to grow retared?
>
> I feel this such inferiority now because, i always tried to keep up with people, and now i know why i cant keep up with people, its because im slow.
>
> "People with autism have social impairments and often lack the intuition about others that many people take for granted"
>
> "However, they do form attachments to their primary caregivers"
> Here just look it up....
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome
>
> This gives me such a birden that i was this way my entire, well most of my life. Its actaully taking place right now. Thats why i grew into it, i never made social contacts. THIS is why i knew there was something always wrong with me.
>
> I always continuaslly needed something to help me concentrate, and as i said, ms. Dearest did not get me the help i VITALLY need. I am not treated for Attention Prolems, memory problems,
>
> What would work from what i've heard is therpy with others, like me.
>
> Also medication too help my danm brain to focus would help. I spent two hours staring at the wall, while i was suppost to be doing my paper, i just stared, got up and walked around, could not sit down.
>
> This is why i post here in need of advice just for going through out the day. I have a form of autism. Im clumys, very behind on social skills, speech is random and gets on people's nerves because i repeat myself CONTANTLY!
>
> But so it goes.....this is why days are so hard for me, i take every account in self-control and acting normal, but really i feel fear, behind, stupidtity, and shame.
>
> If you are familiar with this help me, i am getting professional help, THANK GOODNESS! but just tell me what you think?
>
> your#1fan
>Congratulations! You can spend years with your old p-doc and the wrong diagnosis. This goes for many diseases. You can't be treated successfully until the proper diagnosis is made.
Posted by Maxime on March 23, 2008, at 12:19:12
In reply to Re: I just got a second opionion from a great doctor., posted by bulldog2 on March 23, 2008, at 9:56:54
> Congratulations! You can spend years with your old p-doc and the wrong diagnosis. This goes for many diseases. You can't be treated successfully until the proper diagnosis is made.
>Just because XXX likes this diagnosis, it doesn't mean it is the right one.
Maxime
Posted by your#1fan on March 25, 2008, at 22:22:29
In reply to Re: mental feelings/#1fan, posted by rskontos on March 22, 2008, at 18:16:23
GOD, new life, new everything but i have to catch up on my posters, because you guys have helped me out so much!
1...2...........set! lets go!
Posted by your#1fan on March 25, 2008, at 22:48:03
In reply to And for my next two questions... » your#1fan, posted by Racer on March 22, 2008, at 9:18:54
Racer:**********You're welcome for responding -- in this case, I had to refute the part where you confounded autism and retardation...
And for the first of my two questions:
How do you know?
How do you know that *this* is the correct diagnosis? Could this be part of the problem, with other issues still unexplored? Is it possible that you're focusing on this diagnosis because it's new, and it offers you a sort of Get-Out-Of-Jail-Free card for social awkwardness? I don't deny that it might indeed be correct -- but is it *the* correct diagnosis, or part of a more complex picture, which might include other issues which are harder for you to accept?********
Your#1fan: I accept this because it obvisouly fits me pretty well, my whole life has been a social tizzy! i never got along with people, always thinking im b*d*ss it just never worked with myself. I never did. Im getting ready to see a therpist tommorow. Its about 11:30 right now, im making someway on responding to posters.
But yes i accept this as real because it has applied to my every day life, with other condiitions such as
1)mood swings
2)anxiety
3)anxiety attacks
4)depersonalization caused from anxiety.Racer:************ What you're describing as other people in your head isn't pathological, either. They're not "other personalities," in the sense of Dissociative Identity Disorder. They're the sort of inner voices we all have -- I joke all the time about my own internal dialogs, about "nurturing my inner spoiled brat," etc. In fact, when I'm distressed over something, I do have internal dialogs -- usually it's the upset voice talking to the voice I use when I write to you. That's a technique for self-soothing, if you can channel it -- your own internal voice helping to calm you, to offer yourself the emotional support you need. We all do it, and it's perfectly normal.
Sometimes it does seem as though having another personality to hand the reins over to would be nice, doesn't it? That's not what you're describing.*******************
Your#1fan: im a scared person inside, i have one person that i showed you that was a girl that just was ZONED she, was like, tramatized! thats really me inside i have to cover it up with many masks, voices to help me out (a voice which is dominant that helps me out through out the day, but does not come out as another personality at all)
These are very, your right, it is diagloge with another personality. Really but i can C-O-N-T-R-O-L it, if it gets out of hand just cut it out. They have names, no doubt. Usally its night when they surface, but they never come out in reality unless something HORRIBLE happened. Which actaully something did horribly happen like usall, and i had to live somewhere else. Its all really my head trying to place another person inside my head through itself.
Also it is known as the "Wendy" Syndrome. Co-dependency, see where all that is linking up. Some one in my family told me its just "iminary friends", i said "yup", but what they dont know is that my mind has to have some support somewhere...even if its in my head.
Racer:************Did they explain that Asperger's is a very, very mild deficit in functioning? It's on the autistic spectrum, but so close to "normal" that many, many of those diagnosed with it are considered remitted by the time they hit adulthood? That there are those who suspect that it's not so much an autistic disorder, as a certain awkwardness found in many very bright children? (Ever noticed how many gifted students move awkwardly?) Did they talk to you about what sorts of deficits you, specifically, experience? ***********
Your#fan: I always was diffrent, soon as i came out of my mom, i think i was diffrent than all others. And you know thats a real sad fact to me, im "diffrent".
And also when im suppost to be with all the crowd right now, thats why i never socailly caught on, but people always seemed to notice that i was a bit off track, since i never had many friends or a girlfriend (well i dont want to talk about that). My motor skills are horrible, but you what i did, i improved myself like Data on Startrek. I improved every social aspect about myself, but it didnt do much, because i still feel "comforted" feeling diffrent now.I obsess about things, like getting this "term" post done,...... and caring about other people. I obsess about people not liking me, i obsess about too much thats why my mind isnt right.
Im going to see a doctor tommrowow. But i do obsess with talking withothers here and getting things done.
Your#1fan
thank for your imput racer
Posted by your#1fan on March 25, 2008, at 22:50:27
In reply to Re: And for my next two questions..., posted by Phillipa on March 22, 2008, at 9:59:48
im so sorry i couldnt not post back, but things happened, cant talk about.
I got the diagnoses about, well after the sesssion, and i was relieved, but i was suprised and ashamed of it. I always i just stupid, dumb, many other things.
THanks Phillipa.....apple of an eye;)
your#1fan
Posted by your#1fan on March 25, 2008, at 22:55:42
In reply to Re: I just got a second opionion from a great doctor. » your#1fan, posted by maxime on March 22, 2008, at 14:46:19
Ok, its not a "diagnosed" diagnosses, i have had diagnoses ovbioulsy by the medication i take. Xanax for anxiety............but where could all this anxiety come from....fear, fear of reality, fear of things bad to come. Fear of insanity, people abonding me, rejection.
Im going to MUCH more doctors because i saw an exellenant doctor that dianosesd with me with but i need more imputs from others.
your#1fan
Posted by your#1fan on March 25, 2008, at 22:59:47
In reply to Re: mental feelings/#1fan, posted by rskontos on March 22, 2008, at 18:16:23
sorry im typing 100miles an hour to get this done....its like a paper.
Autism isnt the worst, it just affects my "view" of reaality.....the way i see things. The way i function, the way i communicate.
Its all that aspect.
Rksonotos: I do know a guy that has BP with aspergers and a few other things and he is doing well and is smart. Has the social issuesyour#1fan: that is so totally me! you said it, i do have manic depressive disorder i know pretty much, but its not severe at all. I have social issues bad.
Thanks so much for posting!
your#1fan
Posted by your#1fan on March 26, 2008, at 0:02:18
In reply to Re: I just got a second opionion from a great doctor., posted by bulldog2 on March 23, 2008, at 9:56:54
I can be treated for this, it will take time, medication, and alot of sh*t, but this is all the junk thats been bothering me for the last 10 years, they should of done brain scans!
Anyways, im going to be here, off an on, but i did my entire best in trying to respond to babblers.
Thanks for your support :)
fan
Posted by Phillipa on March 26, 2008, at 19:20:03
In reply to Re: racer and bulldog, posted by your#1fan on March 26, 2008, at 0:02:18
Fan always here for you. Phillipa
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