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Posted by Phoenix1 on January 5, 2008, at 12:45:45
I've had a fluttering eyelid for the last 48 hours. This is new. Is it TD/EPS from the low dose Seroquel, a side effect from increasing Nardil dosage, or nothing to worry about? Won't be able to ask my pdoc until Tuesday...
Thanks for any advice.
Posted by Phillipa on January 5, 2008, at 12:54:06
In reply to Fluttering Eyelid, posted by Phoenix1 on January 5, 2008, at 12:45:45
I get it seriously from nervousness, or anxiety. Sometimes it's a twitching hand or lip too. Did you have your klonopin wasn't it? Love Phillipa
Posted by seldomseen on January 5, 2008, at 13:04:50
In reply to Fluttering Eyelid, posted by Phoenix1 on January 5, 2008, at 12:45:45
Yeah, I get those from time to time (usually when I've had too much coffee) and they just drive me crazy. I've never had one for 48 hours though.
I think it is worth a call to your doc.
Seldom.
Posted by Phillipa on January 5, 2008, at 13:13:53
In reply to Re: Fluttering Eyelid » Phoenix1, posted by seldomseen on January 5, 2008, at 13:04:50
Good idea as there should be a covering doc. I have had them last for days off and on is it continuous? Phillipa
Posted by Phoenix1 on January 5, 2008, at 23:57:17
In reply to Re: Fluttering Eyelid » Phoenix1, posted by seldomseen on January 5, 2008, at 13:04:50
The eyelid flouttering hasn't worsened or improved. It's relatively minor, just an annoyance. I just don't want it to be permanent... I can't contact my doctor until Tuesday. The only option I have is to call the psych ward that he covers in an emergency.
I doubt it's the Nardil. It isn't knon to cause TD or EPS is it? I will stop the seroquel in the meantime and hope the zopiclone is enoguh for sleep. Sound like a good plan?
Phoenix1
> Yeah, I get those from time to time (usually when I've had too much coffee) and they just drive me crazy. I've never had one for 48 hours though.
>
> I think it is worth a call to your doc.
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> Seldom.
Posted by seldomseen on January 6, 2008, at 9:39:32
In reply to Re: Fluttering Eyelid » seldomseen, posted by Phoenix1 on January 5, 2008, at 23:57:17
Now, this is just my opinion, but I am not a big advocate of stopping any med without talking to a doc first. I don't know if there is any withdrawal effects from seroquel or if it may cause something else to happen (you may know this, but I don't).
I also don't know the side effect profile for Nardil.
Is there a charge for calling the psych ward?
I have no problem calling docs when I have a question or concern, especially when it concerns something that I'm worried might be a permanent side effect of a drug I'm taking. My view is - I'm paying this guy. He recommended this course of treatment, and he's going to help me with it.
Besides, a lot of docs know more about the side effect profile of drugs than those that are listed in the prescriber information. They work with these drugs all the time and most likely have a lot of patients on them. He may be able to recommend somehting to you that can stop it, or simply reassure you that he has seen this before and it is transient.
Maybe one call?
Seldom.
Posted by Phoenix1 on January 6, 2008, at 10:42:00
In reply to Re: Fluttering Eyelid » Phoenix1, posted by seldomseen on January 6, 2008, at 9:39:32
> Now, this is just my opinion, but I am not a big advocate of stopping any med without talking to a doc first. I don't know if there is any withdrawal effects from seroquel or if it may cause something else to happen (you may know this, but I don't).
>
> I also don't know the side effect profile for Nardil.
>
> Is there a charge for calling the psych ward?
>
> I have no problem calling docs when I have a question or concern, especially when it concerns something that I'm worried might be a permanent side effect of a drug I'm taking. My view is - I'm paying this guy. He recommended this course of treatment, and he's going to help me with it.
>
> Besides, a lot of docs know more about the side effect profile of drugs than those that are listed in the prescriber information. They work with these drugs all the time and most likely have a lot of patients on them. He may be able to recommend somehting to you that can stop it, or simply reassure you that he has seen this before and it is transient.
>
> Maybe one call?
>
> Seldom.
>Seldom,
You're right, I should call. There is $0 charge as I'm in Canada. I just doubt they'll be able to give me a meaningful answer. Slept OK last night w/o the Seroquel but I won't skip it again without talking to SOME doc. I'm also a little concerned that they'll just take me off the Nardil because they were nervous about giving it to me (or anyone) to begin with. I would hate to lose it because it's actually working, the first thing that's worked in a VERY long time. Thanks for your concern!
Phoenix1
Posted by Justherself54 on January 6, 2008, at 10:53:06
In reply to Re: Fluttering Eyelid » seldomseen, posted by Phoenix1 on January 6, 2008, at 10:42:00
I've had that dratted fluttering eyelid before nardil or seroquel..my mom gets it too..I don't know what causes it, but it did go away on its own..although i can't remember how long it took, as it hasn't happened for a long time..let us know what you find out..
Posted by yxibow on January 9, 2008, at 3:25:30
In reply to Fluttering Eyelid, posted by Phoenix1 on January 5, 2008, at 12:45:45
> I've had a fluttering eyelid for the last 48 hours. This is new. Is it TD/EPS from the low dose Seroquel, a side effect from increasing Nardil dosage, or nothing to worry about? Won't be able to ask my pdoc until Tuesday...
>
> Thanks for any advice.Blepharospasms are common human conditions. TD is Tardive, as in late -- after many years of exposure to all antipsychotics. It could conceivably be a transient in your medication adjustment; twitches are a common side effect of a lot of psychoactive substances. I understand it is an annoyance but I would just mention it to your doctor the next time you see him/her. The chances are far greater that it is a passing phase.
If your eyeballs were moving, that would be a different story -- not to scare you, but that is ID (initial dyskinesia) and something to call the emergency # in your country. IV Benadryl is the choice of agent to stop that, its called an oculogyric crisis. But that is very extraordinarily rare with something like Seroquel.
Posted by Phillipa on January 9, 2008, at 19:43:33
In reply to Re: Fluttering Eyelid » Phoenix1, posted by yxibow on January 9, 2008, at 3:25:30
Wow Jay never heard of that before you're so knowledgeable. Phillipa thanks for the education.
Posted by Phoenix1 on January 9, 2008, at 20:27:02
In reply to Re: Fluttering Eyelid » Phoenix1, posted by yxibow on January 9, 2008, at 3:25:30
> > I've had a fluttering eyelid for the last 48 hours. This is new. Is it TD/EPS from the low dose Seroquel, a side effect from increasing Nardil dosage, or nothing to worry about? Won't be able to ask my pdoc until Tuesday...
> >
> > Thanks for any advice.
>
> Blepharospasms are common human conditions. TD is Tardive, as in late -- after many years of exposure to all antipsychotics. It could conceivably be a transient in your medication adjustment; twitches are a common side effect of a lot of psychoactive substances. I understand it is an annoyance but I would just mention it to your doctor the next time you see him/her. The chances are far greater that it is a passing phase.
>
>
> If your eyeballs were moving, that would be a different story -- not to scare you, but that is ID (initial dyskinesia) and something to call the emergency # in your country. IV Benadryl is the choice of agent to stop that, its called an oculogyric crisis. But that is very extraordinarily rare with something like Seroquel.Thanks yxibow,
The fluttering eyelid disappeared, now I have a fluttering spot on my scalp. My pdoc seems unconcerned, so I will try to ignore it.
Thanks,
Phoenix1
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