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Posted by Jamal Spelling on September 14, 2007, at 9:14:07
Dear friends
Does Ritalin have any abuse potential? How about Provigil?
Thanks in advance
Jamal
Posted by sam123 on September 14, 2007, at 9:43:47
In reply to Ritalin / Provigil abuse potential, posted by Jamal Spelling on September 14, 2007, at 9:14:07
> Dear friends
>
> Does Ritalin have any abuse potential? How about Provigil?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> JamalThat is why they are scheduled. For me, Provigil
produces no high, just makes me awake.
Posted by Phillipa on September 14, 2007, at 12:29:31
In reply to Re: Ritalin / Provigil abuse potential, posted by sam123 on September 14, 2007, at 9:43:47
Is providgil addicting? Phillipa
Posted by Racer on September 14, 2007, at 13:00:40
In reply to Ritalin / Provigil abuse potential, posted by Jamal Spelling on September 14, 2007, at 9:14:07
Posted by King of Nothing on September 14, 2007, at 15:03:38
In reply to Ritalin / Provigil abuse potential, posted by Jamal Spelling on September 14, 2007, at 9:14:07
> Dear friends
>
> Does Ritalin have any abuse potential? How about Provigil?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> JamalRitalin definitely, provigil i would say no.
Posted by med_empowered on September 14, 2007, at 15:55:20
In reply to Re: Ritalin / Provigil abuse potential, posted by King of Nothing on September 14, 2007, at 15:03:38
Dosage escalation happens a good bit with stimulants...ritalin I think it happens, but its not as bad as with the amphetamines; provigil, I've never heard of, but...only time will tell, i suppose.
Posted by F00TBALL on September 14, 2007, at 21:42:45
In reply to Re: Ritalin / Provigil abuse potential, posted by med_empowered on September 14, 2007, at 15:55:20
Ritalin, yes.
Provigil, yep. Even most studies you find online will say it doesn't, I know from personal experience that at the right dose it causes a pretty strong euphoria.
Posted by Schess81 on September 15, 2007, at 0:09:08
In reply to Ritalin / Provigil abuse potential, posted by Jamal Spelling on September 14, 2007, at 9:14:07
200mg of provigil gives me a pretty solid mood boost, plus a nice little crash afterward. Seems like a weaker version of say adderall or something. Its not scheduled though so mosts professionals don't see it as addictive.
Posted by sam123 on September 15, 2007, at 2:33:46
In reply to Re: Ritalin / Provigil abuse potential, posted by Schess81 on September 15, 2007, at 0:09:08
Its not scheduled though so mosts professionals don't see it as addictive.
Yes, it is scheduled. IV. Check the monograph:
http://www.provigil.com/physician/home.aspx
Posted by Jamal Spelling on September 15, 2007, at 2:39:54
In reply to Re: Ritalin / Provigil abuse potential, posted by sam123 on September 15, 2007, at 2:33:46
Posted by Schess81 on September 15, 2007, at 22:05:44
In reply to Re: Ritalin / Provigil abuse potential, posted by sam123 on September 15, 2007, at 2:33:46
> Its not scheduled though so mosts professionals don't see it as addictive.
>
>
> Yes, it is scheduled. IV. Check the monograph:
> http://www.provigil.com/physician/home.aspx
>
>I stand corrected.
Posted by ttee on September 16, 2007, at 8:50:35
In reply to Re: Ritalin / Provigil abuse potential, posted by Schess81 on September 15, 2007, at 22:05:44
In the clinical trials, Monkey's chose Provigil over food, the same as the Monkey's do with Cocaine. But, Provigil doesn't seem to have the withdrawal effects (crashing, appetite, sleeping) like with the amphetamines, like Ritalin.
Posted by rina on September 17, 2007, at 17:32:47
In reply to Re: Ritalin / Provigil abuse potential, posted by ttee on September 16, 2007, at 8:50:35
Even with the low abuse potential, usually it gives off the same effect as the other stimulants and in the event the dosage isn't sufficient, a higher dosage is given to achieve effectiveness. Finally, if that doesn't work, one moves to the others in most not all cases such as ritalin, amphetamines and others. just an opinion. that's why i think they all have abuse potential.
Posted by Phillipa on September 17, 2007, at 20:26:43
In reply to Re: Ritalin / Provigil abuse potential, posted by rina on September 17, 2007, at 17:32:47
Thought providgil didn't reve you up just gave you clearer thoughts and less tiredness? Phillipa
Posted by rina on September 17, 2007, at 21:03:13
In reply to Re: Ritalin / Provigil abuse potential » rina, posted by Phillipa on September 17, 2007, at 20:26:43
it depends has different reactions on different people. it reved me up. it was the first one i tried. didn't give me focus though.
Posted by Phillipa on September 17, 2007, at 21:21:10
In reply to Re: Ritalin / Provigil abuse potential » Phillipa, posted by rina on September 17, 2007, at 21:03:13
Rina so you wouldn't recommend it for someone with history of anxiety a mile long??Phillipa
Posted by rina on September 17, 2007, at 22:09:11
In reply to Re: Ritalin / Provigil abuse potential » rina, posted by Phillipa on September 17, 2007, at 21:21:10
i couldn't recommend or disqualify it because i only used it for wakefulness and focus. It only kept me awake...for a short amount of time before popping out. Never used it for anxiety. Have there been experiences of people using it for that with success?
Posted by Phillipa on September 17, 2007, at 22:19:16
In reply to Re: Ritalin / Provigil abuse potential » Phillipa, posted by rina on September 17, 2007, at 22:09:11
Rina some have said that it doesn't cause the coffee jitters just makes you feel awake without the anxious feelings. Phillipa
Posted by Brody on September 18, 2007, at 10:19:32
In reply to Re: Ritalin / Provigil abuse potential » rina, posted by Phillipa on September 17, 2007, at 22:19:16
> Rina some have said that it doesn't cause the coffee jitters just makes you feel awake without the anxious feelings. Phillipa>
>Yes, I believe that's what this med is intended to do. For me anyway, the bonus is the ability to focus, concentrate, and MOVE.
When I experienced the jitters, I was taking too much. A drop in dosage, and switching to twice a day dosing made all the difference.
Best, Janet
Posted by rina on September 18, 2007, at 17:54:22
In reply to Re: Ritalin / Provigil abuse potential » Phillipa, posted by Brody on September 18, 2007, at 10:19:32
I got the energy but none of the focus and concentration which is what i need also along with the energy.
Posted by Brody on September 18, 2007, at 18:18:59
In reply to Re: Ritalin / Provigil abuse potential » Brody, posted by rina on September 18, 2007, at 17:54:22
> I got the energy but none of the focus and concentration which is what i need also along with the energy.>
Hi Rina,
There is another thread further down, started 9/17 by Mishal, concerning Provigil "crash".
Did you try upping the dose or twice a day dosing?
I was all over the place before we figured out I need a relatively small dose, twice a day.
I do understand that we all respond differently and that a med that is terrific for one person can be like poison to another.
It has been such an effective augmentation for me, and I find it frustrating that it doesn't want to work as well for everyone who needs help with those symptoms!
Best, Janet
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