Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 748550

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Benzos and the 'Crazies'

Posted by chiron on April 9, 2007, at 19:24:23

Antipsychotics actually make me worse.
My current trial on Emsam has heightened the 'crazy' feeling. So my pdoc gave me a prescription for Ativan to see if that will help. Has anyone used a benzo for this instead of anxiety?
I'm also worried about dependency and making my depression worse in the long term. I know Adderall is a different class, but it was also short-acting and caused me to crash hard. What are the chances that Ativan will cause more problems long-term?

 

Re: Benzos and the 'Crazies' » chiron

Posted by Phillipa on April 9, 2007, at 21:45:15

In reply to Benzos and the 'Crazies', posted by chiron on April 9, 2007, at 19:24:23

It doesn't agree with me but a lot of the successful ENSAM people used klonopin. Love Phillipa

 

Re: Benzos and the 'Crazies'

Posted by willyee on April 9, 2007, at 22:16:17

In reply to Benzos and the 'Crazies', posted by chiron on April 9, 2007, at 19:24:23

> Antipsychotics actually make me worse.
> My current trial on Emsam has heightened the 'crazy' feeling. So my pdoc gave me a prescription for Ativan to see if that will help. Has anyone used a benzo for this instead of anxiety?
> I'm also worried about dependency and making my depression worse in the long term. I know Adderall is a different class, but it was also short-acting and caused me to crash hard. What are the chances that Ativan will cause more problems long-term?


Klonopin is noted to be both a anxiety agent,and mood stablizer working in a different way then most benzos,id defintaly look into this to use co aside emsam.

 

Re: Benzos and the 'Crazies' » willyee

Posted by Phillipa on April 10, 2007, at 18:41:07

In reply to Re: Benzos and the 'Crazies', posted by willyee on April 9, 2007, at 22:16:17

Will hows it a mood stabalizer? I was suicidal in thinking on that one. And the pdoc immediately at that time put me back on xanax. I though klonopin was a seizure med? Now I confused? Love Phillipa

 

Re: Benzos and the 'Crazies'

Posted by willyee on April 11, 2007, at 15:39:31

In reply to Re: Benzos and the 'Crazies' » willyee, posted by Phillipa on April 10, 2007, at 18:41:07

> Will hows it a mood stabalizer? I was suicidal in thinking on that one. And the pdoc immediately at that time put me back on xanax. I though klonopin was a seizure med? Now I confused? Love Phillipa

Phillipa there very few meds actualy on label for anxiety,buspar being one.

The majority of anxiety agents are either,

-- anti convulsants
-- anti seizure
-- anti psychotic
--- anti depressant

The entire class of benzos,with i think the exception of xanax is iniatly for seizures.However for that the dose is dramactialy higher as it would be because your treating a full blown seizure.

The idea is since anxiety produces seizure like activity,using these drugs in extremly low doses,compared to sezire dose,can be tried for the anxiety.

Example being klonopin is noted to be used as high as 20 mg for a full blown seizure.

Youre average person will be using up to 1 mg for anxiety,and that is even a modest dose.

so a ratio of approx 1-3 mg is a far cry of 20 mg.

Tons of drugs are offialy labled for one thing and then used off label for another.This is extremly common.Benzos did not come out to treat anxiety officialy.


As for klonopin,i can site the actual differances but i do have the articles,anyway its actions differ enough to where it has been noted to include mood stablization along with its anti anxiety effects.There will always be exceptions as in your case and others,however klonopin as a whole im sure is considered an extremly useful tool in anxiety and mood treatment.

Go to remedy find and see how many responses it produces compared to the other anxiety remedies,its enormous.

 

Re: Benzos and the 'Crazies' » willyee

Posted by Phillipa on April 11, 2007, at 20:12:06

In reply to Re: Benzos and the 'Crazies', posted by willyee on April 11, 2007, at 15:39:31

Will I believe you. Strange we all react so differently isn't it? Love Phillipa ps yes valium and librium for detox from alchohol for many many years.


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