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Posted by cgd092 on February 21, 2007, at 18:15:39
I was just prescribed a few Vicodin for some physical pain. I tried it once many years ago and threw it up 20 min. after I took one pill. So I assumed I'm one of those people who gets nauseous with narcotics. Is there any way to get it into your stomach a gentler way? Such as dissolving some of it in water and drinking it? Or is it not a matter of the stomach being sensitive but more like when it gets into your blood stream your body/brain detects a "poison" and vomits because of that way? If it's purely a stomach thing, it seems like there should be a trick to ingest it without nausea. Thank you for any ideas!
--Katy
Posted by dbc on February 21, 2007, at 19:18:41
In reply to How to not throw up Vicodin?, posted by cgd092 on February 21, 2007, at 18:15:39
Try eating a little something with it.
Posted by Quintal on February 21, 2007, at 19:28:03
In reply to How to not throw up Vicodin?, posted by cgd092 on February 21, 2007, at 18:15:39
Nausea and vomiting are common with opiates and it's due to their action in the brain rather than on the stomach. You may need to take an anti-emetic to control the vomiting. You really need to see the doctor who prescribed it to you for that, but there are some such as Phenergan (promethazine) that you can buy OTC (at least in the UK, not sure baout the US).
Q
Posted by Nolegirl323 on February 21, 2007, at 20:26:51
In reply to How to not throw up Vicodin?, posted by cgd092 on February 21, 2007, at 18:15:39
> I was just prescribed a few Vicodin for some physical pain. I tried it once many years ago and threw it up 20 min. after I took one pill. So I assumed I'm one of those people who gets nauseous with narcotics. Is there any way to get it into your stomach a gentler way? Such as dissolving some of it in water and drinking it? Or is it not a matter of the stomach being sensitive but more like when it gets into your blood stream your body/brain detects a "poison" and vomits because of that way? If it's purely a stomach thing, it seems like there should be a trick to ingest it without nausea. Thank you for any ideas!
>
> --Katy
>I don't know about any other way to get opiates into your system, but I share your 'problem.' In my younger years, before I got help for my psychological issues, I self-medicated with drugs.
I did heroin once, and spend about an hour puking my brains out... Never touched the stuff again.Couple years later, I broke my foot. I was prescribed Lortabs. I took one, and the same thing, puked my brains out. I called my doc who gave me a low dose of vicodin to help ease the pain, same thing, puke city.
I think that there are some of us who cannot tolerate opiates.
Sorry I don't have any suggestions, but I do relate.
Posted by Phillipa on February 21, 2007, at 23:11:52
In reply to Re: How to not throw up Vicodin?, posted by Nolegirl323 on February 21, 2007, at 20:26:51
Well send them my way as they improve my depression so to me it proves since serotonin is in the gut that opiods do the trick for me. Love Phillipa
Posted by TheMeanReds on February 22, 2007, at 10:45:47
In reply to How to not throw up Vicodin?, posted by cgd092 on February 21, 2007, at 18:15:39
You might be midly allergic. Ask for percocet. Maybe it will be better. I take mylanta if my stomach doesnt feel good, but it's med time.
Posted by cgd092 on February 22, 2007, at 18:54:25
In reply to Re: How to not throw up Vicodin? » cgd092, posted by TheMeanReds on February 22, 2007, at 10:45:47
If I'm allergic to an opioid, it appears both Percocet and Vicodin have an opiate in them. But it says Percocet:
"Percocet is a non-opiate, non-salicylate analgesic...It is derived from the opium alkaloid thebaine."
So, it's a non-opiate, but deriveed from opium? Hmmm... Confusing.
--Katy
Posted by Quintal on February 22, 2007, at 19:18:49
In reply to Re: How to not throw up Vicodin?, posted by cgd092 on February 22, 2007, at 18:54:25
The opiate ingredient in Percocet is oxycodone. Here is are some relevant extracts from the Wiki article on oxycodone:
__________________________________________________Oxycodone is a strong opioid similar to morphine, but with a strength nearly four times that of its predecessor.
Oxycodone is a potent and potentially addictive opioid analgesic medication synthesized from thebaine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percocet
__________________________________________________>"Percocet is a non-opiate, non-salicylate analgesic...
Sounds more like they are describing the acetaminophen component of Percocet.
Q
Posted by TheMeanReds on February 22, 2007, at 19:28:21
In reply to Re: How to not throw up Vicodin?, posted by Quintal on February 22, 2007, at 19:18:49
Hmmm....I'm not sure of the choices besides vic and perc. I'm alittle allergic to both they make me itch all over. When I had my wisdom teeth removed however, the dr gave me another pill to counter the itchiness. It's been awhile, so I cant recall the name of it.....maybe ask your doc.
Posted by Quintal on February 22, 2007, at 20:19:43
In reply to Re: How to not throw up Vicodin?, posted by TheMeanReds on February 22, 2007, at 19:28:21
That's not an allergy TMR, it's a common reaction to opiates because they cause histamine release in mast cells. An antihistamine can help with this as you've found.
Q
Posted by yxibow on February 23, 2007, at 1:13:53
In reply to Re: How to not throw up Vicodin? » cgd092, posted by Quintal on February 21, 2007, at 19:28:03
> Nausea and vomiting are common with opiates and it's due to their action in the brain rather than on the stomach. You may need to take an anti-emetic to control the vomiting. You really need to see the doctor who prescribed it to you for that, but there are some such as Phenergan (promethazine) that you can buy OTC (at least in the UK, not sure baout the US).
>
> Q
Phenergan is RX in the US.There's also Tigan which may be a little less susceptible to TD and other nasties.
You can also get capsules that usually have about 1.1g of ginger in them, or extracts, OTC. Ginger is recognized as GRAS (generally recognized as safe) by the FDA so continuous use is not a problem. There is evidence they block 5HT3 just as more expensive 5HT3 chemotherapy blockade drugs such as Kytril. It may take a bit of ginger to do that, but I have found it works. Now whether it crosses the blood-brain barrier is questionable -- it is more of a stomach agent, so your miles may vary as they say.
-- tidings
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