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Posted by katiemom on December 19, 2006, at 2:56:58
I've been struggling with break though symptoms for the past several years. I've been diagnosed with schzioaffective disorder. I've tried every atypical antipsychotic drug and nothing seems to work. My PDoc wants me to try Clozaril. Has anyone had any expereince with it or know something about it. I know about the blood tests, which is a drag, but if the drug will help I will do it. I'm desperate.
Colleen
Posted by Jeroen on December 19, 2006, at 7:21:10
In reply to Help -- Might need to Take Clozaril, posted by katiemom on December 19, 2006, at 2:56:58
hi, i have it too, i tryed these anti psychotic witouth any success
Risperidone (very bad)
Zyprexa (very bad)
Abilify (bad bad)
Geodon (worst)
Seroquel (worked like magic the first time after 20 days) only 100 mg at bedtime, but wasnt enough i am now on 300 mg, and i hope it will cure me .. taking it for 4 days now... i felt improvement this morning already in my mood
good luck!
Posted by med_empowered on December 19, 2006, at 11:09:24
In reply to so did i and i found 1 med working, posted by Jeroen on December 19, 2006, at 7:21:10
schizoaffective patients sometimes don't need neuroleptics...have you tried lithium, depakote, trileptal, etc. to stabilize your condition? Those would be better long-term than neuroleptics.
Also...if you're not already on a mood-stabilizer, using a mood-stabilizer+neuroleptic sometimes makes both drugs work better, and at lower doses. I'd avoid lithium if you're also going to take a neuroleptic, though.
Personally, I think you should try mood stabilizers--maybe even multi-mood stabilizer combos, like lamictal+lithium--before you go for an antipsychotic, especially clozaril. It helps some cases of treatment resistant schizophrenia, but the side effects are *intense*, so if there are any other options, you might want to look into those first.
Good luck.
Posted by Phillipa on December 19, 2006, at 11:25:44
In reply to Re: so did i and i found 1 med working, posted by med_empowered on December 19, 2006, at 11:09:24
l0 years ago when it first came out or around that time I saw miracles with the med for schizophrenics that couldn't take the old neuroleptics but with the atypicals maybe they work better? Love Phillipa
Posted by ronaldo on December 20, 2006, at 8:34:08
In reply to Re: so did i and i found 1 med working, posted by med_empowered on December 19, 2006, at 11:09:24
> Also...if you're not already on a mood-stabilizer, using a mood-stabilizer+neuroleptic sometimes makes both drugs work better, and at lower doses. I'd avoid lithium if you're also going to take a neuroleptic, though.
Hello med_empowered,
I take 900 mg of Lithium and used to take 5 mg of Zyprexa with it, later 10 mg. Why would you avoid Lithium with a neuroleptic? I am withdrawing from the Zyprexa now - down to 3.75 mg.
.....ronaldo
Posted by Jeroen on December 20, 2006, at 8:44:23
In reply to Re: so did i and i found 1 med working » med_empowered, posted by ronaldo on December 20, 2006, at 8:34:08
noting works, psychiatry is a scam
handicap, dystonia, zombie f*cking scambastard
Posted by madeline on December 20, 2006, at 8:50:21
In reply to noting works, psychiatry is a scam, posted by Jeroen on December 20, 2006, at 8:44:23
I'm sorry that nothing has worked for you, and there are other options.
Hang in there.
Posted by Jeroen on December 20, 2006, at 8:55:01
In reply to Re: noting works, psychiatry is a scam » Jeroen, posted by madeline on December 20, 2006, at 8:50:21
it worked perfectly but i went to therapy
100 mg workd like an angel, but then i wen to therapy and took 500 mg on doctor supervision...
and it didnt works, 8 months, i am going to take revenge on that mongol
Posted by ronaldo on December 20, 2006, at 10:12:46
In reply to it worked perfectly but i went to therapy, posted by Jeroen on December 20, 2006, at 8:55:01
> it worked perfectly but i went to therapy
>
> 100 mg workd like an angel, but then i wen to therapy and took 500 mg on doctor supervision...
>
> and it didnt works, 8 months, i am going to take revenge on that mongolHi Jeroen
I don't understand. When did you start the Seroquel? How long did you take it at 100 mg? Where does the 8 months come into it?
Perhaps you should listen to your own body first and to your therapist second. If 300 feels fine then don't let your therapist talk you into taking more.
Your best revenge on your therapist is to get well and take your business away from him.
Good luck!
ronaldo
Posted by laima on December 21, 2006, at 13:20:22
In reply to Re: it worked perfectly but i went to therapy » Jeroen, posted by ronaldo on December 20, 2006, at 10:12:46
I agree with Ronaldo 100%. Jeroen, have you told your doctor what the higher doses have done to you? He or she might have no idea, because everyone responds to medication differently. If not time for your next appointment, you should call. Unfortunately, not even the best doctors can know how exactly you are feeling if you don't explicitly tell them- we must remember psychiatrists have no special powers. Please tell him or her.
> > it worked perfectly but i went to therapy
> >
> > 100 mg workd like an angel, but then i wen to therapy and took 500 mg on doctor supervision...
> >
> > and it didnt works, 8 months, i am going to take revenge on that mongol
>
> Hi Jeroen
>
> I don't understand. When did you start the Seroquel? How long did you take it at 100 mg? Where does the 8 months come into it?
>
> Perhaps you should listen to your own body first and to your therapist second. If 300 feels fine then don't let your therapist talk you into taking more.
>
> Your best revenge on your therapist is to get well and take your business away from him.
>
> Good luck!
>
> ronaldo
>
>
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