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Posted by UgottaHaveHope on December 12, 2006, at 2:14:04
If you are challenged by anxiety and depression, what meds would you say change your thoughts? Or can any meds really do that? Do meds just calm you down or clear your mind where you can change your thoughts by willpower and practice?
Posted by Phillipa on December 12, 2006, at 13:19:23
In reply to Meds that change your thoughts, posted by UgottaHaveHope on December 12, 2006, at 2:14:04
I don't think any meds can change your thoughts maybe behavior or if let's say psychotic an antipsychotic would eliminate voices, etc. Love Phillipa
Posted by Quintal on December 12, 2006, at 16:20:07
In reply to Meds that change your thoughts, posted by UgottaHaveHope on December 12, 2006, at 2:14:04
Opiates and benzos calm me down and seem to allow me to think more rationally about my problems and also give me the confidence to do something about them.
With opiates I often get the feeling I'm seeing the positive side of things- 'the glass half full' perspective whereas unmedicated I'm usually a pessimist. Benzos seem to block unwanted thoughts and dumb down my awareness, while the opiates still allow me to see the whole picture.
Q
Posted by Emme on December 12, 2006, at 17:07:50
In reply to Meds that change your thoughts, posted by UgottaHaveHope on December 12, 2006, at 2:14:04
> If you are challenged by anxiety and depression, what meds would you say change your thoughts? Or can any meds really do that? Do meds just calm you down or clear your mind where you can change your thoughts by willpower and practice?
I was amazed at the speed with which Zyprexa eliminated suicidal thoughts. My thinking became much more positive.
I remember when I first was on a combo of Serzone and Wellbutrin. Within a week, my thinking became much clearer and less negative and I was able to make decisions.
emme
Posted by Phillipa on December 12, 2006, at 18:45:50
In reply to Re: Meds that change your thoughts » UgottaHaveHope, posted by Quintal on December 12, 2006, at 16:20:07
That's what happened to me when I broke my arm and was given percocet. I at bedtime I was laughing something I don't do anymore. But of course the doc said they are addictive. Every med is addictive. So what's the problem? Love Phillipa
Posted by sdb on December 12, 2006, at 19:11:47
In reply to Re: Meds that change your thoughts » Quintal, posted by Phillipa on December 12, 2006, at 18:45:50
> That's what happened to me when I broke my arm and was given percocet. I at bedtime I was laughing something I don't do anymore. But of course the doc said they are addictive. Every med is addictive. So what's the problem? Love Phillipa
"Every med is addictive"
I agree if you treat something, it works and the side effects are bearable for you. Why you shouldn't take it?
Of course there are some substances which can make you more "addictive" physically. But these substances can make the life better for some people too.
Love sdb
Posted by Phillipa on December 12, 2006, at 20:35:14
In reply to Re: Meds that change your thoughts }} Phillipa, posted by sdb on December 12, 2006, at 19:11:47
What is this about being an opiod responder? If you are what can you do as eventually you will need more and more to feel good? Love Phillipa
Posted by sdb on December 12, 2006, at 20:50:54
In reply to Re: Meds that change your thoughts }} Phillipa » sdb, posted by Phillipa on December 12, 2006, at 20:35:14
> What is this about being an opiod responder? If you are what can you do as eventually you will need more and more to feel good? Love Phillipa
Dear Phillipa,
"What is this about being an opiod responder?"
- Then you should be able to treat you under supervision of a legalized dispensary by the government. Heroin "responders" do often much better with continued intake compared with other people who discontinued, or were forced to discontinue. That's no joke. There are successful business managers, formerly poor beggar living on the street injecting heroin or substitutes under a controlled program (depended where you live). Bye the way opioids are daily used to prevent somatic pain in anesthesia, paraplegia, pain centers. Of course these substances can do bad things if taken with other drugs or if taken too much et cetera.
love sdb
Posted by Phillipa on December 12, 2006, at 21:52:09
In reply to Re: Meds that change your thoughts }} Phillipa, posted by sdb on December 12, 2006, at 20:50:54
No someone said that because I took percocet for the first time l pill at bedtime for a broken arm and laughing the next day appropriately that I might be an opiod responder. And how are you my friend? Love Phillipa
Posted by sdb on December 13, 2006, at 16:59:00
In reply to Re: Meds that change your thoughts }} Phillipa » sdb, posted by Phillipa on December 12, 2006, at 21:52:09
> No someone said that because I took percocet for the first time l pill at bedtime for a broken arm and laughing the next day appropriately that I might be an opiod responder. And how are you my friend? Love Phillipa
"And how are you my friend?" - Well, thats a difficult question. Life goes on?
I hope warmly that you're having better times, principessa.
Love sdb
Posted by sdb on December 13, 2006, at 21:56:47
In reply to Re: Meds that change your thoughts }} Phillipa, posted by sdb on December 13, 2006, at 16:59:00
"No someone said that because I took percocet for the first time l pill at bedtime for a broken arm and laughing the next day appropriately that I might be an opiod responder"
short story
=======Opioid's are controlled substances. But these substances were controlled in the 19th century too.
Some time ago China said:
"We don't need to trade with you, we have everything. If you need it necessarily we sell you tea, porcelain and silk".
Thus the old world let India produce opium to let China change that with tea, porcelain and silk with the advantage not to pay for it.
The old world poisoned many people in China and understandably China closed the harbours for opium import. That caused an opium war from 1839-1842 and a second opium war. The French and English army went to Peking despoiled and later burned the palace down. So you can say England and its allies poisoned the Chinese people and forced them to open their harbours and the borders for trade.
After we forced China to trade with an opium technique it is now a concern for politicians in the Western countries that China could be an economic threat.
Politicians of the same countries using the opium technique to poison Chinese people are now concerned of opioid abuse in their own borders.
Human apes are often not interested in peoples happiness but they are more interested in power, politics and war games.
sdb
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