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Posted by UgottaHaveHope on July 25, 2006, at 1:30:42
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/health/best-hospitals/rankings/specreppsyc.htm
Posted by Phillipa on July 25, 2006, at 12:32:25
In reply to List of BEST psychiatric HOSPITALS in USA, posted by UgottaHaveHope on July 25, 2006, at 1:30:42
Thanks Duke is only two hours from here but I heard from someone who was in there that Yale was not that good. And I am a born and bread Ct. Person. Love Phillipa
Posted by UgottaHaveHope on July 25, 2006, at 17:29:37
In reply to Re: List of BEST psychiatric HOSPITALS in USA » UgottaHaveHope, posted by Phillipa on July 25, 2006, at 12:32:25
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Posted by stargazer on July 25, 2006, at 23:41:47
In reply to Everybody is entitled to their opinion (nm) » Phillipa, posted by UgottaHaveHope on July 25, 2006, at 17:29:37
My experience with one of these aforementioned facilities made me very skeptical about health care in large,university hospitals, especially psychiatry. I suppose you have to go to a large facility in order to get the "best" care in terms of research and reputation, but don't be fooled by the name or the ivy covered buildings. There exists a superiority attitude on the part of the staff which interferes with providing "best" care practices for an extremely vulnerable population. There should be no room for arrogance in this environment where the patients are unable think clearly as a result of their diagnoses and the volume of medication they are given.
I am not impressed with any designation which claims superiority over another. All this tells me is that there are "worse" places to be treated, and I don't want to find myself at either place.
My humble opinion.
SG
Posted by llrrrpp on July 26, 2006, at 1:41:45
In reply to Another opinion...not impressed w designation, posted by stargazer on July 25, 2006, at 23:41:47
I guess the most important thing, if I'm to trust a facility to help me get well, is the the quality of the people that I have to interact with, rather than the prestige of their research output, their endowment, or their reputation.
When my dad was in the hospital, one of his docs was a complete JERK!! and even though it was a fantastic hospital, I was sorely disappointed with this doctor. Fortunately, he had interns to work under him. They actually cared enough to get a detailed history, rather than spending 10 seconds, asking 3 questions and leaving the room until the next rounds, at 6am, daily. (poor dad!)
I guess what I'm saying is that nice, supportive nurses, doctors, and other care staff can really set up an environment where healing can take place. Science, for all its advances rarely triumphs the human spirit.
-ll
Posted by RN320 on July 27, 2006, at 14:33:48
In reply to List of BEST psychiatric HOSPITALS in USA, posted by UgottaHaveHope on July 25, 2006, at 1:30:42
> http://www.usnews.com/usnews/health/best-hospitals/rankings/specreppsyc.htm
I went to one of these "premiere" institutions and they treated me horribly. I was accompanied by a friend who is a PhD Nurse and I thank God that she was there with me. I went for a second opinion at the request of my psychiatrist. He wrote a letter of introduction that I saw, so I know that anyone who read it would not have behaved in the manner they did. First, after already providing all of this information over the phone in a very painful and lengthy phone call- I was given about 12 pages to fill out that requested the same information that I had already given them. Why would a "depression center" require someone who has the attention span of a gnat fill out 12 pages of information??
I was then interviewed by a duo (Med Student and Resident). I know that med students need to learn somewhere, but in this environment when you're as anxious as I was to be in an unfamiliar place talking about very personal things- I felt outnumbered and uncomfortable. My psychiatrist had requested that I be seen by a senior staff person instead of the usual routine but that request was not honored because "we don't do it that way". Apparently the med student and resident were frightened by the results of the interview because within about 30 minutes they told me that I had to be admitted and when I told them that I was just there for a 2nd opinion they called security and forced me to go, by ambulance, to their psychiatric ER. My friend got in touch with my psychiatrist (who was 1 hour away) and he finally got through to the ER doc and told them to discharge me into his care. This was an absolute nightmare for me. It took me months to get over my experience with this prestigious institution. I even had a little PTSD. My friend, although a PhD RN, witnessed this subhuman treatment. I have no clue what these lists are really made from......some of their top heart hospitals are way off too.
Posted by Karen44 on July 27, 2006, at 23:18:22
In reply to Re: List of BEST psychiatric HOSPITALS in USA, posted by RN320 on July 27, 2006, at 14:33:48
> > http://www.usnews.com/usnews/health/best-hospitals/rankings/specreppsyc.htm
>
> I went to one of these "premiere" institutions and they treated me horribly. I was accompanied by a friend who is a PhD Nurse and I thank God that she was there with me. I went for a second opinion at the request of my psychiatrist. He wrote a letter of introduction that I saw, so I know that anyone who read it would not have behaved in the manner they did. First, after already providing all of this information over the phone in a very painful and lengthy phone call- I was given about 12 pages to fill out that requested the same information that I had already given them. Why would a "depression center" require someone who has the attention span of a gnat fill out 12 pages of information??
> I was then interviewed by a duo (Med Student and Resident). I know that med students need to learn somewhere, but in this environment when you're as anxious as I was to be in an unfamiliar place talking about very personal things- I felt outnumbered and uncomfortable. My psychiatrist had requested that I be seen by a senior staff person instead of the usual routine but that request was not honored because "we don't do it that way". Apparently the med student and resident were frightened by the results of the interview because within about 30 minutes they told me that I had to be admitted and when I told them that I was just there for a 2nd opinion they called security and forced me to go, by ambulance, to their psychiatric ER. My friend got in touch with my psychiatrist (who was 1 hour away) and he finally got through to the ER doc and told them to discharge me into his care. This was an absolute nightmare for me. It took me months to get over my experience with this prestigious institution. I even had a little PTSD. My friend, although a PhD RN, witnessed this subhuman treatment. I have no clue what these lists are really made from......some of their top heart hospitals are way off too.Don't know which "premiere" hospital you went to, but I know Menninger's used to be fantastic when they were in Topeka, Kansas. When they moved to Houston several years ago, most of the senior people did not go with them. Most of the staff at Menningers now are not the really great people who were there in the 70's, 80's, and even into the 90's. I know some of the people at Menninger's, but many doctors there now are from the Houston area.
Karen
Posted by kerria on July 29, 2006, at 18:53:02
In reply to List of BEST psychiatric HOSPITALS in USA, posted by UgottaHaveHope on July 25, 2006, at 1:30:42
I was treated horribly at one of those hospitals. i had a terrible witch for a dr who must have been in her 60's and she tomented me- in solitary confinement in their 'Quiet rooms" - i slept there 28 out of 30 days.
i have DID and it was supposed to be a specialized trauma unit- can you think of anything more traumatizing than having a room full of big guys hold you down while you beg not to get an injection of Haldol? Just for being afraid and (a little was out) hiding under a bed?
Also they dropped the bed on me. i was terrified.Then i had a bad reaction to resperdol- i lost my vision for an hour. It was a bad migraine. A dr came after hours passed and discounted and didn't treat the migraine, The old lady mean dr wrote that i "misconstrued the effects of the migraine to resperdol. Keep giving it to her." and i had to pick it out of my medications almost the whole time i was there. i could never trust her then.
There's no crueler punishment (and i did nothing wrong) than to be alone - completely alone in a white tiny room 10x8' maybe, with nothing in it except a blanket, especially when you have DID and your parts ground to places and people. It felt like i had 'no one to be' and i fell apart totally. Being without anything to distract was torture. The entire time i was watched by a monitor in the corner of the room. My family wasn't allowed to visit at times.
This treatment was against their patient rights but no one stopped it. i complained when i could and nothing was done. Medication was forced on me another time because i lost it and threw a pillow against a wall.
Every time i gave notice - i tried many times- to leave they threatened to commit me- then they committed me the last day of my insurance coverage using the same witch dr as the second (the deciding dr) . It was supposed to be drs who were objective. It was so Stressful - i thought up until the last min. that i'd be going to a state hospital. They told me it would be her- that horrible dr- 10:30pm the night before my last day there. No sleep that night.
What a horrible experience that was.
Then they sued me for what the insurance didn't cover!
It completely depends upon who you get and whether the hospital gives forced med injections and has forced seclusion or not. You don't want to go to a place like that.
'Patient rights' meant nothing in that hospital. The 'Patient Advocate' was part of that hospital's legal team and was totally working for the hospital- not patient rights.
kerria
Posted by Karen44 on July 29, 2006, at 23:17:53
In reply to Re: List of BEST psychiatric HOSPITALS in USA, posted by kerria on July 29, 2006, at 18:53:02
> I was treated horribly at one of those hospitals. i had a terrible witch for a dr who must have been in her 60's and she tomented me- in solitary confinement in their 'Quiet rooms" - i slept there 28 out of 30 days.
>
> i have DID and it was supposed to be a specialized trauma unit- can you think of anything more traumatizing than having a room full of big guys hold you down while you beg not to get an injection of Haldol? Just for being afraid and (a little was out) hiding under a bed?
> Also they dropped the bed on me. i was terrified.
>
> Then i had a bad reaction to resperdol- i lost my vision for an hour. It was a bad migraine. A dr came after hours passed and discounted and didn't treat the migraine, The old lady mean dr wrote that i "misconstrued the effects of the migraine to resperdol. Keep giving it to her." and i had to pick it out of my medications almost the whole time i was there. i could never trust her then.
>
> There's no crueler punishment (and i did nothing wrong) than to be alone - completely alone in a white tiny room 10x8' maybe, with nothing in it except a blanket, especially when you have DID and your parts ground to places and people. It felt like i had 'no one to be' and i fell apart totally. Being without anything to distract was torture. The entire time i was watched by a monitor in the corner of the room. My family wasn't allowed to visit at times.
>
> This treatment was against their patient rights but no one stopped it. i complained when i could and nothing was done. Medication was forced on me another time because i lost it and threw a pillow against a wall.
>
> Every time i gave notice - i tried many times- to leave they threatened to commit me- then they committed me the last day of my insurance coverage using the same witch dr as the second (the deciding dr) . It was supposed to be drs who were objective. It was so Stressful - i thought up until the last min. that i'd be going to a state hospital. They told me it would be her- that horrible dr- 10:30pm the night before my last day there. No sleep that night.
>
> What a horrible experience that was.
>
> Then they sued me for what the insurance didn't cover!
>
> It completely depends upon who you get and whether the hospital gives forced med injections and has forced seclusion or not. You don't want to go to a place like that.
>
> 'Patient rights' meant nothing in that hospital. The 'Patient Advocate' was part of that hospital's legal team and was totally working for the hospital- not patient rights.
>
> kerria
kerriaI am so sorry you had such a horrible experience. I was at the Menninger Foundation Hospital in the early 1980s - for 2 and one/half years, and I got excellent treatment there. Only problem for me was that there was some unfinished business (in therapy) that I never really addressed and that never bothered me hugely until more recently, and now I am forced to address it or forever be tied to medications that in my opinion never take care of the job entirely. I was fortunate to be able to have long term treatment due to outstanding insurance at the time. Never got stuck in some 10x8 room or threatened with the State Hospital. So, I cannot immagine what that would be liked. I never had medications forced on me either. I was threatened with committment at one point when I was dissociating and extremely suicidal. They would have been right to commit me had I left.
Karen
Karen
Posted by kerria on July 29, 2006, at 23:40:08
In reply to Re: List of BEST psychiatric HOSPITALS in USA, posted by Karen44 on July 29, 2006, at 23:17:53
This one was Sheppard Pratt and it was in 2002.
Unbelieveable.
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