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Posted by idolamine on May 27, 2006, at 1:03:15
After conducting a search on google for serotonin + grimace, at least half of the pages I found were on selegeline. For anyone that's had dyskinesias from SSRIs or EMSAM- is it reasonable to expect them to diminish?
Posted by yxibow on May 27, 2006, at 4:00:27
In reply to EMSAM dyskinesia, posted by idolamine on May 27, 2006, at 1:03:15
> After conducting a search on google for serotonin + grimace, at least half of the pages I found were on selegeline. For anyone that's had dyskinesias from SSRIs or EMSAM- is it reasonable to expect them to diminish?
I'm not sure about EMSAM, but carvidopa/levidopa is often combined with selegeline and can cause dyskinesias. Who knows, it could also stop them.
Posted by idolamine on May 27, 2006, at 5:05:57
In reply to Re: EMSAM dyskinesia » idolamine, posted by yxibow on May 27, 2006, at 4:00:27
No, this is just for emsam. I think it has something to do with serotonin, or maybe glutamate? I'm on lamictal as well, and withdrawing from bzds. maybe the combo is enough to give me an oral dyskinesia. I just hope it resolves
> > After conducting a search on google for serotonin + grimace, at least half of the pages I found were on selegeline. For anyone that's had dyskinesias from SSRIs or EMSAM- is it reasonable to expect them to diminish?
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> I'm not sure about EMSAM, but carvidopa/levidopa is often combined with selegeline and can cause dyskinesias. Who knows, it could also stop them.
Posted by notfred on May 27, 2006, at 11:09:37
In reply to EMSAM dyskinesia, posted by idolamine on May 27, 2006, at 1:03:15
I found were on selegeline. For anyone that's had dyskinesias from SSRIs or EMSAM- is it reasonable to expect them to diminish? g
Selegeline was developed and used only for Parkinsons. The stone like face is a very common
effect in Parkinsons; it is related to Parkinsons **itself** even w/o selegeline.
Posted by SLS on May 27, 2006, at 11:49:47
In reply to Re: EMSAM dyskinesia, posted by notfred on May 27, 2006, at 11:09:37
> Selegeline was developed and used only for Parkinsons.
Actually, selegiline was developed only as an antidepressant. When it proved disappointing, probably because it did not inhibit MAO-A to an appreciable extent at the dosages tested, someone got the bright idea of using it for Parkinsons.
Trivial, I know.
:-)
- Scott
Posted by idolamine on May 27, 2006, at 15:58:39
In reply to Re: EMSAM dyskinesia, posted by SLS on May 27, 2006, at 11:49:47
I think it's my lamictal. Lamictal is activating, I think via glutamate. I only have oral dyskinesia. The dyskinesia for selegeline is not a result or parkinsonian syptoms- it's independent. I feel that there is a connection between serotonin and glutamate activity, unless it's some other receptor that emsam and prozac both may work on (i.e.- adrenergic of some type). I'm going to try reducing my lamictal dosage. Memtanine may be appropiate if this becomes commonplace. I just have a hunch it's glutamate.
Posted by Phillipa on May 27, 2006, at 21:34:42
In reply to Re: EMSAM dyskinesia, posted by idolamine on May 27, 2006, at 15:58:39
Lamictal is not always agitating see thread below. Love Phillipa
Posted by Jost on May 28, 2006, at 21:15:51
In reply to Re: EMSAM dyskinesia » idolamine, posted by Phillipa on May 27, 2006, at 21:34:42
I googled "emsam" and "grimace" and got 32 hits, two of which were on psychobabble, and the others were nonsense sites, with references to "cheap hotels" "urine" and other non-sequitors.
Are you sure that was the search that produced your information?
Jost
Posted by idolamine on May 29, 2006, at 12:50:35
In reply to Re: EMSAM dyskinesia, posted by Jost on May 28, 2006, at 21:15:51
You are correct. I was unable to replicate the search, nor was I able to find dyskinesias as I suyspected in the PI. However, tounge edema, and tounge disorders were also listed. In addition, hyperkinesia was listed as an infrequent side-effect. I will repost the latter as another question. Thanks.
> I googled "emsam" and "grimace" and got 32 hits, two of which were on psychobabble, and the others were nonsense sites, with references to "cheap hotels" "urine" and other non-sequitors.
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> Are you sure that was the search that produced your information?
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> Jost
Posted by Donna Louise on May 30, 2006, at 8:02:24
In reply to Re: EMSAM dyskinesia, posted by idolamine on May 29, 2006, at 12:50:35
> You are correct. I was unable to replicate the search, nor was I able to find dyskinesias as I suyspected in the PI. However, tounge edema, and tounge disorders were also listed. In addition, hyperkinesia was listed as an infrequent side-effect. I will repost the latter as another question. Thanks.
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> > I googled "emsam" and "grimace" and got 32 hits, two of which were on psychobabble, and the others were nonsense sites, with references to "cheap hotels" "urine" and other non-sequitors.
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> > Are you sure that was the search that produced your information?
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> > Jost
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>I have been on the patch for 4 1/2 weeks and have no evidence of any dyskinisia nor do I expect to. I have certainly had so much bruxism and/or shoulder and facial tension on SSRI's to know what it feels like. I have several crowned teeth thanks to them. There is none, nada, with the patch at least for me and I have not heard or read about anyone else getting it either.
Donna
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