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Posted by saturn on May 13, 2006, at 13:44:29
Could anyone rank these in terms of peripheral stimulation?
Posted by rjlockhart on May 13, 2006, at 18:24:53
In reply to desoxyn vs focalin vs provigil vs caffeine, posted by saturn on May 13, 2006, at 13:44:29
From my point of view. I have not taken desoxyn or provigil.
The most starting
1. Caffiene
2. Provigil
3. Desxoyn
4. Focalin
I have heard that Desoxyn is less stimulating than other stimulants but has more mental stimulation.Do you have any kind of high blood pressure? i've seen your posts before about betablockers.
Just wondering.
Matt
Posted by saturn on May 13, 2006, at 18:42:55
In reply to Re: desoxyn vs focalin vs provigil vs caffeine, posted by rjlockhart on May 13, 2006, at 18:24:53
> From my point of view. I have not taken desoxyn or provigil.
>
> The most starting
> 1. Caffiene
> 2. Provigil
> 3. Desxoyn
> 4. Focalin
>
>
> I have heard that Desoxyn is less stimulating than other stimulants but has more mental stimulation.
>
> Do you have any kind of high blood pressure? i've seen your posts before about betablockers.Thanks Matt,
I only have high blood pressure (as well as heart rate and chest pain) when taking stimulants (Dex, Adderall, Ritalin are the ones I've tried).
Posted by Paulbwell on May 18, 2006, at 11:52:44
In reply to desoxyn vs focalin vs provigil vs caffeine, posted by saturn on May 13, 2006, at 13:44:29
> Could anyone rank these in terms of peripheral stimulation?
You are asking for users of legal script Methylphetamine Hcl (the most potent stimulant around-available only in 5mg IR tabs) to compare it to Ritalin? and Caffeine like stuff?NO COMPARISON.
Desoxyn is legal CRANK.
the rest are Ritalin, and Coffee-like subs.
If this is insufficent, get back?
Cheers
Posted by saturn on May 18, 2006, at 13:29:27
In reply to Re: desoxyn vs focalin vs provigil vs caffeine » saturn, posted by Paulbwell on May 18, 2006, at 11:52:44
> > Could anyone rank these in terms of peripheral stimulation?
>
>
> You are asking for users of legal script Methylphetamine Hcl (the most potent stimulant around-available only in 5mg IR tabs) to compare it to Ritalin? and Caffeine like stuff?
>
> NO COMPARISON.
>
> Desoxyn is legal CRANK.
>
> the rest are Ritalin, and Coffee-like subs.
>
> If this is insufficent, get back?What I'd like to know is how Desoxyn compares to caffeine, ritalin, provigl in terms of peripheral (ie sympathetic, cardiovascular) stimulation.
I'm aware it has a higher central/peripheral activation ratio than dextroamphetamine, which is supposed to be one of its major advantages, and that it's generally regarded as the most potent stimulant. However, I'm unaware of how it compares to ritalin as well as the other meds mentioned specifically in terms of peripheral, not central, activation.
Thanks,
--sat
Thanks
--sat
Posted by Paulbwell on May 18, 2006, at 13:41:36
In reply to Re: desoxyn vs focalin vs provigil vs caffeine » Paulbwell, posted by saturn on May 18, 2006, at 13:29:27
> What I'd like to know is how Desoxyn compares to caffeine, ritalin, provigl in terms of peripheral (ie sympathetic, cardiovascular) stimulation.
>
> I'm aware it has a higher central/peripheral activation ratio than dextroamphetamine, which is supposed to be one of its major advantages, and that it's generally regarded as the most potent stimulant. However, I'm unaware of how it compares to ritalin as well as the other meds mentioned specifically in terms of peripheral, not central, activation.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --sat
>
> Thanks
>
> --sat
>
>Hey Dude!
I think you answered your own question.
As a well read reader of ADD/HD, Narcolepsy treatments, Desoxyn has THE LOWEST somatic (body) activation of all the stimulants.
Coffee raises blood pressure more than Ritalin, ( a compound i have alot of experience with)
Dextroamphetamine tends to provoke adverse behaviour at higher doses.
Do you take stims?-dose?
Cheers
Posted by saturn on May 18, 2006, at 16:05:42
In reply to Re: desoxyn vs focalin vs provigil vs caffeine » saturn, posted by Paulbwell on May 18, 2006, at 13:41:36
> Hey Dude!
What's up man.
> I think you answered your own question.
>
> As a well read reader of ADD/HD, Narcolepsy treatments, Desoxyn has THE LOWEST somatic (body) activation of all the stimulants.So it has even less peripheral activation than Ritalin?
> Coffee raises blood pressure more than Ritalin, ( a compound i have alot of experience with)
I guess that would mean meth has even less somatic activation than coffee?
> Do you take stims?-dose?I've tried Ritalin, Dex and Adderall but could not tolerate any of them due to excessive somatic stimulation. Very rarely I'll take 15-30 mg of Sudafed. How bout you?
> Cheers
Right back at ya!
Posted by Paulbwell on May 18, 2006, at 16:18:11
In reply to Re: desoxyn vs focalin vs provigil vs caffeine » Paulbwell, posted by saturn on May 18, 2006, at 16:05:42
> I've tried Ritalin, Dex and Adderall but could not tolerate any of them due to excessive somatic stimulation. Very rarely I'll take 15-30 mg of Sudafed. How bout you?
>
> > Cheers
>
> Right back at ya!Hi,
Well it sounds like the Amphetamines/stimulants are not for you. I don't know what dose of each you tried/length of time either.
I have beeen scripted generic+brand Ritalin for some time, along with other meds.
I don't know what you want to know, here, with this thread, ok?
Cheers
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